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AndrejX - which part of my post was hate speech?

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Gary Patel Gary Patel Active MemberOP
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joined Jul 2022
#1 ·
Honestly, I’m at a loss—how exactly was what I wrote considered "hate speech"?

What part of saying most pro-lifers are actually just "pro-birth"—meaning they care more about the delivery than the actual life of the child—is offensive?

And let's be real—white Americans would never prioritize the lives of children from marginalized communities, like Romani families, nearly as much as they claim to.

https://www.prochoiceamerica.org/cam...life-movement/

Plenty of pro-choice groups call out the hypocrisy within the pro-life movement. Does that mean all those movements are suddenly engaging in hate speech?

Here is the source I’m citing, along with the specific examples they provide:

  • Imprison or execute women who access safe abortion care.
  • Tear babies away from their parents and lock them in cages, with no plan to reunite them.
  • Silence doctors and strip reproductive healthcare away from millions of low-income people.
  • Stand by while the maternal mortality rates skyrocket and Women — especially Black Women — die in childbirth
  • Deny affordable healthcare coverage to people with pre-existing conditions.
  • Cut programs that feed hungry kids.
  • Block access to HIV testing and treatment across the globe.
  • Incite far-right violence with lies about abortion.


Where is the hate speech in any of that?
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
372 messages
joined Jan 2019
#2 ·
Man, my bad... I was just messing around on my phone in the sun—basically rambling about two different things at once. My apologies.
You actually earned yourself a ban for this one under "Abortion Discussion Part II":

I’m really curious though... if all those lifelong activists, especially the white ones, had their daughters raped by a non-white man of MENA descent, would they still be pushing that whole ideology that life has to be protected no matter what circumstances it was "created" in?
Gary Patel Gary Patel Active MemberOP
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joined Jul 2022
#3 ·
Yeah, I get the point you're making.

I definitely could have phrased that better—my bad.

That said, I just want to clarify one thing: even though my post ended up reinforcing some nasty stereotypes about men from the Middle East and North Africa, that wasn't my intention at all. My goal was actually to highlight the hypocrisy of certain pro-life advocates who push for an Abortion ban even in cases of rape—and Missouri is a prime example of a state where they've gone that far, banning it even for rape or incest. My point was really aimed at white conservatives—those stereotypical types who claim to dislike people of color—asking if they'd stick to that same rhetoric if it were their own daughter being raped by the very people they look down on.

Or, more likely, they'd find a quiet way to fix the situation while preaching a completely different tune (which is probably what would happen for the daughters of the elite).

Still, I totally see how the post came across. Even though I had zero intention of leaning into hate speech, it clearly landed quite clumsily.

I should have picked a much better example.
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
372 messages
joined Jan 2019
#4 ·
True enough, though it’s pretty obvious there wasn't any actual malice behind it. I guess the whole shift in tone compared to those earlier posts just felt... weird.
I'm sending a request to the admin to get this record wiped.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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joined Apr 2011
#5 ·
The cardboard is gone and the ban is lifted.
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
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joined Jan 2019
#6 ·
Thanks, Nica.

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