Soccer Moderation - The Off-Topic Corner (or whatever you want to call it)

Look, I couldn't care less about soccer in general—unless it’s the national team or some American club playing in Europe, then yeah, I'm all in for everyone...

The reason my post got flagged as some stupid trolling attempt is because two years ago, those local tailgaters nearly beat the hell out of a good friend of mine—literally almost killed his son—on his way back from Sunday lunch, mind you, when he wasn't even wearing any fan gear...

Back then, just like after this AC Milan situation, someone else always ends up taking the fall...

Back then, when they were jumping on a guy's head while he was lying on the ground being pummeled by about ten "brave" souls, and now, while they're ripping up street signs and throwing fire extinguishers around—do you people have any idea how much strength it actually takes to rip a street sign right out of the ground?

And yet, I get hit with a 200-point penalty for "trolling," while this whole crew of "brave" individuals—people who wouldn't hesitate to screw over your entire extended family and who openly insult others with every name in the book—gets absolutely nothing...

And all of this is allowed by Tijs, a moderator who is about as competent as the crowd he's protecting is cultured or eloquent...

Just two quick questions for the forum leadership here...

Am I allowed to talk to Tijs the same way the people under his protection talk to me and anyone else who disagrees with them?

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I’m dropping this post here just to throw my support behind my political rival—mostly because I recently posted a nearly identical comment and started a thread about this exact same issue, which was predictably shut down by the authorities running this forum before anyone calling themselves a mod or super-mod even bothered to look at it. I mean, it’s just easier to lock the thread and act like we don't owe you any explanation regarding how we moderate things.

The "Soccer" subforum moderation — basically Tijs's private vendetta

The bottom line is this: what we have here is pure tyranny. There's one guy who has decided he’s the absolute king of the soccer threads, dictating what can and can't be discussed, and he’s out there scrubbing comments that don't break a single rule of this forum. They only break the rules he made up in his own head! On top of that, he lets people spew vitriol and insult anyone who doesn't share his specific worldview (which, let's be honest, means being obsessed with Mamić and thinking about him twenty-four hours a day).

Here’s a perfect example of someone getting away with insults without any consequences whatsoever:

T i h o m i r said:Go back to the politics section and jerk off to Karamarko or whatever.

Now, sure, it might not seem like some massive, earth-shattering insult, but if I were to snap back with the same energy, I'd probably get slapped with at least a week-long ban. Meanwhile, the people who kiss the moderator's feet don't have to worry about being punished for stuff like this.

Things have gone so far on that subforum that you could get banned just for saying you agree with the police during a riot involving those crazy tailgaters on the highway—you know, when they're clashing with thugs who block traffic and put everyone else in life-threatening danger. If you side with the cops, boom—automatic ban. How pathetic do you have to be to act like this, punishing people just because they have an opinion different from yours?

I wouldn't expect the forum leadership or any of the mods/super-mods to lift a finger about this, though. They won't even acknowledge it because they either couldn't care less or they actually agree with this biased, one-sided way of running the subforum—and frankly, the whole damn site.

As far as I can tell, the official narrative is that people were just hungry and thirsty—that they had every right to protest and occupy half the street. Meanwhile, the police, who have been treated like idiots for years, haven't even been allowed to carry real ammunition... anything beyond that isn't worth mentioning.

The point isn't really about Nike or what actually went down—it’s about how they choose to "moderate" things in soccer...

It’s pretty obvious where the line is drawn: you can go ahead and verbally tear apart anyone who disagrees with the crowd—calling them idiots, losers, whatever else comes to mind—and it’s totally fine...

Let’s run a little experiment, shall we? Just to see how that would actually play out.

Regarding the actual incident, someone clearly thought the best way to "protest" was by ripping up street signs or tossing around fire extinguishers that weigh a good 35 pounds...

Or maybe they figured it’s perfectly fine for a handful of "geniuses" to charge at twelve officials...

But I’m telling you, the real issue here is this "moderation" nonsense—this attempt to scrub away any shred of critical thinking while the group currently running wild and attacking dissenters gets a free pass. They just can't wrap their heads around the fact that a host club acting as an organizer has the right to set rules, provided those rules don't violate US federal law...

Amanda Hughes37 said:As far as I can tell, the official story is that people were just protesting, hungry and thirsty, exercising their right to protest—even if it meant blocking half the street. Meanwhile, the police, who have been treated like idiots for years, haven't even been allowed to carry real ammunition... anything beyond that is speculation.

Go 🤣
ići Doro. I won't even bother arguing with those soccer-obsessed morons; they're more stubborn than any religious zealot.🙂

I guess the forum admins are just totally clueless—they clearly have no idea what actual "moderation" is supposed to look like...

So, here’s the bottom line...

So, once again, everyone else is the problem except for that little "perfect angel" from sunny Florida who’s supposedly never done anything wrong in her life?

It’s always the same playbook—same excuses, every single time...

And honestly, all of this is nothing...

By your logic, it’s more likely that you're just some insecure degenerate.

To those of you defending the mods' actions: go jump in a lake, and feel free to slide into my DMs if you want me to say it to your face.

Look at this absolute nonsense—where do you people even come from?

Stakor, why don't you take your provocations and shove them back into the political gutter along with the rest of that trashy crowd.

Listen, you chatroom idiots, just leave us alone along with your pathetic little club and your local police force.

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Who said they were "angels"? You're being narrow-minded, officer, seriously. Shouldn't someone in your position act professionally instead of stirring the pot and escalating things? You're being incredibly dense.

The idiot clearly hasn't a clue what they're reading.

So, we've got rats, morons, degenerates, extremists—all that good stuff—scattered across just a few pages, and none of it is even flagged...

Is this really the standard for communication allowed on this forum? Is this how I’m supposed to talk to a moderator?

And about this "moderator"—who actually thought it was perfectly fine to let a post slide where one user "wishes" for another to be dumped in a cold ditch?

Is this honestly the level of skill and competence you're looking for in someone moderating this forum?

I'm not here to defend Tijs or anyone else—they can handle their own business. I'm just responding to this because I'm actually the author of the post in the wishes and greetings section.

Adam Collins4 said:"The 'moderator' who was actually doing an okay job, regarding that comment about dumping a body in a frozen swamp that some user supposedly sent to another as a 'wish'?"

That's correct. I personally wished that user @Aurelije10 wouldn't see the morning. I don't regret saying it for a single second, and I'm not looking for apologies for my actions.
I was emotionally invested in the thread. Just like you lost your son, someone very close to me ended up behind bars for something they didn't do, and we're all waiting to see how this mess unfolds. That’s where that reaction came from.

Since I've been waiting over a year to be removed from my moderator position—and haven't touched any admin tools since—I wrote that as a user, not as a moderator.
I got banned for what I did, and I'm fine with that. The super-mods did their jobs; they didn't censor anything, nor did they protect me. The rules applied to me just like everyone else.
That's fair. I've already apologized to the head mod privately.
As for the rest of you self-appointed shepherds, busybodies, and fake moralists—including the pro-establishment crowd from Index—I have nothing to say to you.

And if you think I'd get any satisfaction out of throwing dirt on the graves of types like Šešelj, Paravinja, or those half-wits over at Index—I've never hidden the fact that I stand by everything I've written, even if it costs me another ban.

Stay healthy, you righteous saint, and try not to catch a cold. (cough* cough*)

Charles Bailey2 said:I’m not here to defend Tijs or anyone else—they can handle their own PR—I’m just addressing this because I was the one who wrote that post in the wishes and greetings section.

It's true. I personally wished that user @Aurelije10 wouldn't see the sunrise. And honestly? I don't regret a single second of it, nor am I looking for an apology for saying it.
I was emotionally invested in the thread—look, since you lost your son, and someone very close to me has ended up behind bars for something they didn't do, and we're all waiting to see how this mess unfolds—so yeah, that was my reaction.

Since I’ve been waiting over a year to be stripped of my moderator status—and I haven't touched any admin tools since that moment anyway—I wrote that as a forum member, not as a moderator.
I got banned for what I said, and fine by me. The head mods did their jobs; they didn't censor me, and they didn't protect me; the rules applied to me just like everyone else.
That's fair. I already sent a private apology to my fellow head mod.
As for the rest of you sheep, busybodies, and fake moralists—not to mention that bunch of internet trolls over at Index—I have zero intention of apologizing to you.

And if you think I won't take a few extra swings at types like Šešelj, Paravinja, or those half-wits from Index—well, I've never hidden the fact that I stand by everything I write, even if it costs me another ban.

Stay healthy, you saint, and try not to catch a cold. (pfft*)

Look, wishing death upon someone is your own shame... and you don't need to justify it, especially not to me...

Trying to equate severe physical injuries that nearly killed a man with someone being wrongfully imprisoned is a massive failure... much like your attempt to justify your "wishes" toward your interlocutor...

Because this innocent person, if they truly are innocent, will prove it and will have every right to sue the government...

I'm just curious how many of you—including you—condemned the attack on the man I mentioned back in 2019.

bluemason3 said:Look, 🤣
I’m telling you, ići Doro, I won't even bother engaging with those soccer idiots—they're honestly worse than religious zealots. 🙂

But man, those political hacks? They are on a whole other level of pathetic.

Where on earth is that fan Nevenko when you actually need him most?

It looks like the forum mods are still acting "clueless" about how the rules actually work here, which is why all the little birds, morons, and degenerates can keep tossing around those "affectionate" nicknames over in the soccer subforum without any consequences at all...

Meanwhile, anyone who actually tries to point out how ridiculous this situation is gets slapped with a ban faster than you can blink...

Amanda Hughes37 said:From what I can tell, the official story is just that people were out there making noise—you know, saying they were hungry or thirsty and had every right to protest, even if it meant blocking half the street. And the police? They haven't even been allowed to carry real ammo for years, treating everyone like they’re totally clueless... honestly, anything beyond that is probably just speculation.

What "official story" are we talking about here?
The fan groups at MZM are basically just a crowd used for manipulation.
I'm really only interested in the national team, but man, it's pretty sad that because of the MZM crowd, the actual fans who just want to go enjoy some soccer don't even bother showing up anymore.
Megi Tacher👍

The fact that you're liking Tačeric's posts tells me everything I need to know about your level of insight.

Apparently, the goal is to make life miserable for the fans, so I guess that counts as a win for you.

Claiming that hooliganism in England isn't even close to being solved—implying they have a hundred times more issues than America—is completely irrelevant here.
🙂 Our lot are complete idiots, while Megi Tacher is the absolute authority.

Nicole Carter82 said:What "official narrative"?
Those fan groups are just MZM... nothing more than tools for manipulation.
I only care about the national team, but it’s pathetic how people who actually want to enjoy some soccer have stopped showing up because of MZM.
Megi Tacher👍

Megi hasn't done anything remotely intelligent—unless you consider moving fan brawls a few blocks away from the stadium to avoid the security cameras "smart."😁

The police clearly targeted this—it feels like they really went all out right at the end of the season.

It’s always been their pattern: training against fans to prepare for the kind of chaos that stems from price hikes, economic crises, inflation, and growing public unrest.

Look at how history works—over thirty years ago, Zvone Boban stood up to the state and its repressive agencies, and now he’s hailed as a hero instead of being branded a criminal.
To those of you living north of SV rok, you have to realize that down in Dalmatia, people have finally reached their breaking point with the hooliganism displayed by the USSF, the Republican Party, the administration, and the enforcement agencies they use to keep this mafia-style, predatory state in power.
For us, the behavior of everyone mentioned over the last decade or two has felt identical to the old militia back in the day—those who existed solely to shield a criminal regime.
Just as there was no justice then, there isn't any now.
You can feel the tension and resentment between the North and the South everywhere you turn.
And honestly? That division plays perfectly into the hands of those criminals at the top.

So, I’ve been looking over the latest election results. I mean, look, the voters clearly had enough of the current administration and the Republican Party. It got to the point where, in the 9th and 10th elections, the Republican Party stayed so dominant they pulled in twice as many votes as the runner-up 😳
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And honestly, the police situation is a mess too. They somehow managed to orchestrate this coordinated attack on a few poor souls at a gas station—people who didn't even look like they were geared up for something like that. The CIA is apparently so impressed they're planning to send a training squad over there soon 😳.

swiftmaker12 said:The police clearly targeted this, almost as if they decided to go all out just to wrap up the season.

It’s always been their way, hasn't it—to use the fans as practice for handling the kind of chaos that erupts when prices spike, crises hit, inflation climbs, and public discontent reaches a breaking point?

Then you look at how Zvonimir Boban went after the state and its heavy-handed enforcement agencies thirty-two years ago, and suddenly he’s a hero instead of a criminal.
You people living north of Rock need to realize that on the Mediterranean Coast, everyone has finally reached their limit with the hooliganism displayed by the USSF, the Republican Party, the administration, and the repressive apparatus they use to keep this mafia-style, predatory criminal state in power.
To us, the behavior of those elites over the last decade or so feels exactly like the old militia back in the day, acting as nothing more than shields for a corrupt regime.
If there was no justice then, why should we expect any now?
And you can feel that resentment between the North and the South at every turn, can't you?
Of course, that division serves those criminals perfectly.

As someone from the North, I don't feel any hatred toward the South, nor have I ever felt it directed at me when I visit. Isn't it possible that this is just something cooked up by the primitives who congregate in fan groups, people who have hijacked soccer just to find an excuse to vent their own frustrations and aggression? And then they have the nerve to whine about police brutality, even after hundreds of their "tough guys" charged a handful of officers—honestly, considering the circumstances, most of them stayed remarkably calm.

I imagine there should be plenty of other threads on this forum where we can dive deep into discussions about sports fans and hooliganism🤔

Coming onto a specific fan sub-forum just to bash the whole fan subculture feels a bit like poking someone in the eye, especially if it’s coming from someone who doesn't even hang out in that section most of the time, I guess.

Now, I definitely think criticizing fans is totally fair, but honestly, I feel like those red cards handed out by officials are also completely justified sometimes👍

bluemason3 said:I was just looking over the recent election results. To be fair, the public seems fed up enough with the current administration and the Republican Party—so much so that in the 9th and 10th elections, the Republicans were so dominant they pulled in twice as many votes as the runner-up, 😳
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Then there's the whole mess with the police—apparently, they managed to orchestrate this "controlled" attack on a few of their own poor souls at a gas station, despite the victims clearly being totally unprepared for something like that. I hear the CIA is so impressed they’re planning to send trainers over for a workshop 😳
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Well, what can I tell you...
In the Midwest, they somehow have about 100,000 more voters than they actually have adult citizens

This could actually matter if the political rivals were neck and neck. But when you have double the votes of your closest competitor, it’s hard to imagine enough fraud occurring to bridge that kind of gap. No matter how we look at it, we aren't living in North Korea or some other dictatorship where the regime "wins" with 120% of the vote.

In our system, most of what passes for "cheating" is technically legal, which makes it hard to even call it fraud. For instance, you have people who stay registered at their old addresses long after they've moved away. Or you have certain parties that are just better organized on the ground—they round people up and make sure they show up at the polls. It’s more about logistics than anything else.

I highly doubt there are massive amounts of fake votes from dead people or non-existent citizens. That would be too risky to pull off.