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Participants Brenda CookMichael Jackson10wearymason4Emily Jones59wiredcanyon94swiftowl7
Brenda Cook Brenda Cook NewcomerOP
6 messages
joined Aug 2022
#1 ·
Connecting my laptop directly to the router via Wi-Fi is incredibly slow, and frankly, it’s driving me crazy.
However, when I connect my phone to the router and then use the phone as a hotspot for my laptop, everything works perfectly.
Does anyone have any ideas or advice on why this might be happening?
Router to laptop = slow
Router to phone to laptop = great
Michael Jackson10 Michael Jackson10 Active Member
140 messages
joined Feb 2023
#2 ·
Let's say the signal's pretty weak, you're probably just holding your phone closer to the laptop...
wearymason4 wearymason4 Active Member
239 messages
joined Oct 2014
#3 ·
Check out how much signal that laptop is actually pulling from the router. It’s possible the antenna connection on the internal Wi-Fi card is wonky, or maybe those tiny cables running up to the antennas in the screen lid got pinched or snapped during a repair.
It's a huge red flag if your phone shows full bars from the router, but the laptop is struggling with a weak connection.
Honestly, it happens all the time—someone opens up a laptop to clean out the dust, then gets a little distracted while putting it back together and forgets to snap those thin coaxial antenna leads onto the Wi-Fi card.
Emily Jones59 Emily Jones59 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2021
#4 ·
Good afternoon, everyone! I could really use some advice here..

I’m currently managing a ground-floor commercial space where I use a Verizon router to run my computers. Previously, I had two setups—one hardwired via Ethernet and another on Wi-Fi—but now I'm down to just a single laptop relying entirely on the wireless connection. To be honest, I never thought to check my actual speeds until yesterday, when I realized how sluggish everything has become. (I was actually planning on adding some IPTV services soon).

On top of that, the TV in the office is quite frustrating; even with the antenna plugged in, the reception is terrible. Does anyone have recommendations on which antenna would provide a stronger signal for better TV reception? Also, what are my options for boosting the internet stability? There isn't any fiber optic cabling installed in this unit yet, as apparently, those upgrades were only rolled out for the residential apartments.

John Doe
Any insight you can share would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards, 🙂)
wiredcanyon94 wiredcanyon94 Active Member
129 messages
joined Nov 2022
#5 ·
Emily Jones59 said:Hey everyone, I could really use some help here.

So, I’ve been working out of this ground-floor office space lately. For a while now, I've just been using this Verizon router to get my computers online—I used to have a two-computer setup where one was hardwired and the other was running on Wi-Fi. Now, I’ve scaled down to just a single laptop via Wi-Fi. To be honest, I never really bothered to check if my connection was actually any good until yesterday. Turns out, it's pretty terrible. I was actually planning on signing up for some IPTV service, but after seeing these speeds, I might need to rethink that plan.

I’ve also got this TV sitting here that I can only use via an antenna, and honestly, the reception is pretty garbage. Does anyone have any experience with which antenna is actually worth buying to get a decent signal? Also, I'm looking for ways to boost my internet connection. There isn't any fiber optic cable installed in the unit—apparently, they only ran that through to the apartments.

John Doe, thanks a ton.
Any bit of info helps me out a ton.
Low ping. 🙂)

When it comes to TV antennas, placement matters way more than the actual hardware you buy. You could have a top-of-the-line antenna, but if you stick it inside an apartment on the ground floor, you’re basically just wasting your money. Honestly, I'd take a mediocre, budget-friendly antenna mounted high up on a rooftop any day—it'll pull in a much better signal than that fancy piece of gear sitting behind a brick wall.

We don't have nearly enough data here to make any real calls on internet speeds. Based on what’s actually in front of us, the only real advice I can give is to just call up your provider and pay for a faster plan.
It’s completely unclear what kind of internet we're even talking about here. Is it DSL? Cable? What's the actual speed? There isn't even a mention of how it's connected—all it says is that there's no fiber available.
I’m honestly still stuck on whether the speed I'm paying for from my ISP is actually hitting the mark, or if the bottleneck is just sitting right here in my own house.
If the speeds you're getting from your ISP are actually hitting the numbers they promised, then there’s a whole laundry list of stuff on your end that could be causing issues. But honestly, my crystal ball has been acting up lately, so I can't exactly give you a definitive answer.
wearymason4 wearymason4 Active Member
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joined Oct 2014
#6 ·
...look, we already covered the TV situation, but when it comes to internet, if there’s fiber running right into the building, it doesn't really matter which provider owns the lines—you just want that fiber connection in your unit.
Regarding that Verizon service you're using, try running a speed test by plugging your laptop directly into the router with an Ethernet cable. Use something like the Ookla Speedtest to see what's actually happening. If the numbers look crappy, try moving the router closer to a window or even elevating it, then run the test again.
When you're relying on Wi-Fi between the router and your laptop, your speed is basically at the mercy of how much interference there is from other people's Wi-Fi networks on the same channel, how far away you are, and obviously, physical obstacles like walls.
At the end of the day, Wi-Fi just isn't a substitute for a hardwired connection, so it's always better to avoid wireless if you can help it.
Emily Jones59 Emily Jones59 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2021
#7 ·
Thank you all for the replies 🙂 I truly appreciate every bit of insight 🙂

Regarding the TV, I’m using an antenna from Comcast, but I tried moving it around today and it’s just completely useless
Maybe it’s broken? I'm not sure... the indicator lights aren't even working right anymore

As for my Verizon mobile hotspot—which needs to be plugged into a wall outlet—I finally connected it to my laptop via ethernet to run some tests
The speeds are all over the place... ping is at 20, while downloads and uploads fluctuate between 3 and 20 Mbps
I’ve tried walking around with the router and repositioning it by the window, but the signal actually gets worse near the glass
Strangely enough, the best connection seems to be right next to the power strip, and even then, it's inconsistent—like a 20 ping with 19 down and 18 up

Does anyone know what the ideal parameters should actually look like?
My plan is to call Verizon on Monday to review the specifics of my service agreement
However, I think I might have a major hurdle here since I'm on the ground floor with thick concrete walls; I wonder if there's even a viable option for this layout

John Doe, thank you so much 🙂
swiftowl7 swiftowl7 Member
46 messages
joined Dec 2017
#8 ·
Emily Jones59 said:Thanks so much for all the replies! 🙂 Every little bit of advice helps me out right now 🙂

Regarding the TV situation, I've got this antenna from an old local utility provider, and I actually spent some time today walking around trying to find a sweet spot with it, but honestly, it’s just totally useless.
I might have even broken it... who knows... those little indicator lights on it aren't even glowing anymore...

It's definitely a win that you're getting any kind of signal at all down in the basement. People were right when they mentioned that antenna placement is everything, but honestly, looking at your setup, grabbing a signal booster—maybe a 30dB one—would probably solve your headache instantly.

Most of those boosters use standard F-connectors, so you'll just need someone handy around the house to help hook it up. But seriously, in your specific case, a booster is by far the easiest way to go.

As for my Verizon mobile hotspot that stays plugged into the wall... I just hooked it up to my laptop via Ethernet to get a real reading on the speed.
The speeds are all over the place... I'm seeing a ping of 20, with downloads and uploads bouncing anywhere between 3 and 20 Mbps.
I've been walking around moving the router everywhere, even trying it by the window, but strangely enough, it actually performs worse by the glass.
Apparently, the best spot is right next to the electrical breaker box, and even then, I'm only seeing a ping of 20 with 19 down and 18 up.

I'm honestly lost on what a "good" number is supposed to look like here.
My plan is to give Verizon a call on Monday to figure out exactly what I signed up for in this contract.
The big issue is that since I'm on the ground floor with these thick concrete walls, I have no idea if the service I'm paying for even supports this kind of environment.

John Doe, thank youuuuuuuu! 🙂

I'm not a T-Mobile customer myself, but I've heard through a few friends that their service quality really tanked after they went through that big corporate acquisition. Some people using home internet services didn't just see a slight dip; they lost signal entirely.

If you want reliable IPTV, your best bet is to look into fiber optic internet. You should check which providers offer actual fiber service at your specific address—it might be worth asking some neighbors in the building to see what they use.
wearymason4 wearymason4 Active Member
239 messages
joined Oct 2014
#9 ·
Look, if those little indicator lights on your indoor antenna aren't glowing, you’re basically out of luck for getting any picture. It’s because that built-in amplifier ends up choking out whatever signal is coming from the antenna when there's no power running through it (you can tell it's dead by that missing light).
The hardware really matters here—something like a Sony Bravia setup or similar gear works best because they use a metal mesh circular reflector for the UHF band, which pushes the antenna gain above 9 dBi.
Even if you grab an amplifier rated at 20 dB, it’s not magic; it just boosts whatever it catches. If the initial signal is already weak, you’re just amplifying a bunch of static and noise along with it, so the output stays pretty much the same.😢
Those old telescoping antennas people used to use for TV in the US are pretty much obsolete now since we don't rely on VHF anymore, so there's no point in even messing around with extending them.
Most modern indoor antennas hover around 2.5 dBi without a reflector, which means they provide four times less signal. They’re only worth using if you’ve got a prime location, like a high-rise apartment with a clear line of sight straight to the local broadcast tower.
Honestly, the move is to go with an outdoor antenna. And if you aren't running a massive stretch of coax cable (more than 20m), you shouldn't even need an amplifier unless the broadcast tower is further away than about 9.3 miles.
swiftowl7 swiftowl7 Member
46 messages
joined Dec 2017
#10 ·
wearymason4 said:An amplifier can be set to 20 dB because its job is just to boost whatever signal it pulls from the antenna; if that incoming signal is already weak, you’re basically just amplifying the static along with it, so you end up with the exact same mess at the output.😢

That's spot on. In reality, you don't even get the "same" result—you usually just end up blowing a fuse in the amp, which means you get absolutely zero benefit.

Anyway, if you're trying to pull in a signal from a basement setup, here is how I'd handle it:

1) Pick up a standard indoor UHF antenna (make sure it's a basic model without any built-in amplification—just keep it simple)
2) Grab a separate antenna amplifier rated at a solid 30dB
3) Just hook those two pieces together.

One little tip though: don't try to daisy-chain an existing antenna or anything else that already has a booster attached to this extra amp.🙂

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