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Canadian Grand Prix (Indianapolis Motor Speedway) | July 30 - Aug 1, 2021

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Raymond Anderson4 Raymond Anderson4 Regular
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#61 ·
Robert Cox46 said:It’s going to be tough to snatch the lead in the first corner since both Mercedes-Benz cars are right up there, but he could just as easily throw it away if he gets reckless.

He really needs a bold move here. If he ends up stuck behind three cars on soft tires after the opening lap, his chances of getting past Bottas are slim—and honestly, I'm not even factoring Hamilton into the equation at that point.
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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joined Aug 2014
#62 ·
Max Verstappen needs to pull off a mega start to clear the Mercedes-Benz cars early on. If they line up side-by-side, those Mercedes drivers will simply shut him out. Valtteri Bottas might be an easy target to shake off, but Lewis Hamilton won't be that simple. Once that happens, we're looking at Lewis Hamilton having effortless control over the race pace, unless Max pulls off some miracle overtake thanks to his softer tires.

It would certainly be entertaining.🙂
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#63 ·
A collision between Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton would actually be a decent way to see a fresh winner on the podium. Even better? Watching both the Mercedes-Benz and Red Bull Racing cars take each other out. 🙂

By the way, I make it a point to regularly read the incoherent ramblings of Max fans on this forum.

Max had several viable paths here—he could have peeled out before the Mercedes, or perhaps overtaken them during the formation lap. 🙂

But no, naturally, it’s Hamilton's fault. 🙂
Jack Torres9 Jack Torres9 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2022
#64 ·
Don't sweat it. Max goes after Valtteri Bottas, Bottas accidentally clips his tire during the duel and takes Max out. Lou wraps up the race without any drama, while Bottas secures a new contract...
Douglas Roberts49 Douglas Roberts49 Active Member
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joined Jul 2022
#65 ·
No rain today 🙂
analogpilot16 analogpilot16 Member
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joined May 2010
#66 ·
mellowtiger83 said:By the way—just a quick note—I make it a point to keep up with all the nonsense coming from the Max fan club on here.

Max actually had a few choices there—he could have pulled out before the Mercedes-Benz cars, or maybe overtaken them during the out-lap.🙂

But no, let's just blame Lewis Hamilton instead.🙂

It’s honestly wild how easily people can be manipulated—they react without using any actual brainpower. They don't realize that during that final attempt in Q3, the director is intentionally focusing the cameras on Lewis Hamilton. In reality, Lewis Hamilton can't go faster because Valtteri Bottas is blocking him, Valtteri Bottas can't go faster because Esteban Ocon is in his way, and Esteban Ocon can't go faster because... well, you get the idea.

And then, just like you said, they turn around and blame Lujo.
Douglas Roberts49 Douglas Roberts49 Active Member
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joined Jul 2022
#67 ·
Haters will always find something to whine about--it's practically their calling
It's a sickness, really.
cosmiccyclist8 cosmiccyclist8 Active Member
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joined Mar 2023
#68 ·
graniteharbor502 said:What can you even say about a track built on a potato field? The layout is just as messy. Passing is basically impossible.
Well, that’s why the legends here used to get around by drifting through the corners 🙏
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Brew some coffee, light up a couple of cigarettes, and just sit back while this thing spins for ten minutes... pure pleasure 🙂
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#69 ·
I honestly just don't want to see Lewis Hamilton take the win because he’s being such a pain in the neck to Viktor Orbán.

Vamos Nando, Vamos Carlos 👋
Ashley Ramirez4 Ashley Ramirez4 Active Member
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#70 ·
analogpilot16 said:Yeah, it’s wild how easily people get manipulated—they just react without using any brain cells at all. They don't realize the director is basically just showing Lewis Hamilton during that last Q3 attempt, when really, Ham can't go faster because Valtteri Bottas is blocking him, and Bottas can't go faster because Esteban Ocon is in his way... you get the idea.

And then, just like you said, they blame Lujo.

And honestly, you're being blind too—you didn't see anyone alive in front of Lujo or Max (especially when they came out of the pits in that section marked by the solid line). But that doesn't change the fact that Max and the Red Bull Racing pit wall are idiots. If he could have pulled a faster lap than Lujo, it wouldn't matter if he was ahead or behind on track. Why didn't he pass him during the warm-up lap? It's not like we haven't seen this before. If Lujo had tried, they either would've collided or Lujo would've ended up with a penalty. And also, why didn't they exit before Mercedes? They're closer to the pit exit anyway. Max couldn't even come close to Lujo's insane pace in Q3.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#71 ·
analogpilot16 said:Yeah, it’s wild how easily people get played. They react without using a single brain cell, totally missing the fact that during that final Q3 attempt, the director is just intentionally showing Lewis Hamilton. In reality, Lewis can't go faster because Valtteri Bottas is blocking him, Bottas can't go faster because Esteban Ocon is ahead, Ocon can't go faster because... yeah, you get the idea.

And then, just like you said, they blame Lujo.

It's not even about whether it has anything to do with Ocon or anyone else...
It's about the fact that Red Bull Racing's timing was a total disaster right from the pit exit. They just didn't have enough time left...
And the director obviously focused on those two because it looked like an overtake attempt was brewing, even if it didn't happen. Of course he followed them—who else was he supposed to follow? 🤷

By the way, Esteban Ocon wasn't getting in Valtteri Bottas's way at all. If anything, he was well ahead. Even if Bottas actually wanted to push—assuming he could, which wouldn't have been enough to get Sergio Pérez back in the loop anyway—it's just a logical question why he would bother. 🤷
Check the driver tracker. The gaps between everyone are more or less the same, with the biggest gap being mostly between Ocon and Bottas, but nothing extreme compared to the rest...
The only outliers during that entire out-lap were the Hamilton-Verstappen gap (insanely close) and the Verstappen-Pérez gap (massive). And that has nothing to do with Lewis, or even much with Pérez; it's almost entirely down to Max...
Because Lewis was maintaining a standard distance from Bottas—not too big, not too small (just like everyone else on track)... so, totally normal.

If someone was acting weird on track, it was Max, riding Lewis's gearbox. Not really a shocker though, considering Mercedes were driving way slower than everyone else during that out-lap and barely squeezed him out just in time behind them...
But what's stupid on Max's part is that he didn't even try to pass Lewis when there was a clear opportunity. Instead, he just sat there hovering behind him, which is idiotic because you can't set a proper fast lap doing that...

Actually, looking at how Red Bull Racing sent him out, I wonder if he would have even made it into that final timed lap at all...

If you don't believe me, here are some shots...
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Both Red Bull cars look bizarre...
Max is pushing for no reason at all, while Pérez is lagging behind the pack and just dragging through the circuit...
God knows what kind of kid was running strategy for Red Bull Racing, but it definitely looks like they were taking orders from the crew in Maranello...
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#72 ·
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Eighteen years ago, history was being written right here on this track. Eighteen years ago, we witnessed what was hands down my all-time favorite Canadian Grand Prix. Honestly, even now, I can vividly recall exactly what I was doing that day leading up to the race. It was just one of those perfect, beautiful days that stays burned into your memory forever. Thanks for everything, Fernando.
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#73 ·
frozenheron7 frozenheron7 Member
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joined Nov 2020
#74 ·
Oh, man. This is looking good.

With a starting grid like this, I'm telling you right now, we are in for one hell of a race.
cosmiccyclist8 cosmiccyclist8 Active Member
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#75 ·
I mean, has anyone actually looked at this Ford Formula car lately? If they actually got their act together, imagine them out there racing side-by-side in F1
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#76 ·
The track's completely dried out now
Kate Brooks3 Kate Brooks3 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2021
#77 ·
Max is getting a fresh power unit for the race

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/v...-race/6640284/
Raymond Anderson4 Raymond Anderson4 Regular
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joined Oct 2024
#78 ·
This looks grim for Max and his title defense.

Lewis really gave him a run for his money at the Circuit of Cotes.

Honestly, I think Red Bull Racing made a huge mistake by running that compromised engine this weekend. They should have just swapped it out immediately.
Bradley King Bradley King Member
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#79 ·
Raymond Anderson4 said:This is looking grim for Max and his title hopes.

Lewis absolutely dismantled him at the Circuit of COTA.

And honestly, Red Bull played themselves by showing up this weekend with a compromised engine. Why on earth didn't they just swap it out immediately?

Since Lewis essentially knocked him out of championship contention with one masterful move, this should probably go straight into the history books.
James Harris34 James Harris34 Active Member
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#80 ·
The amateurs over at Red Bull, along with that clumsy Horner, are basically asking for a beatdown from Mercedes and Hamilton for the rest of the season. It’s pretty obvious they aren't even close to being title contenders, even when they actually have the faster car on the grid.

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