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United Kingdom Grand Prix (Indianapolis Motor Speedway) July 16-18, 2021

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Participants stormybadger8darkmarlin16Raymond Anderson4Bradley KingLinda Peterson43Elizabeth AdamsJacob Castillo70Mark Ruiz8Brandon Rivera11Jason Campbell70Douglas Roberts49shadowmarlin22Amy Castillo4fadedwalker18Elizabeth Mendozawiredseal7Joseph Flores15wanderingbison9mellowtiger83rapidstag2James Harris34Nicholas Torres37Ashley Ramirez4Patrick Newman5 …
James Harris34 James Harris34 Active Member
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joined Jun 2014
#61 ·
It just doesn't make sense; doing this completely strips away the stakes and the excitement from both qualifying and the race itself.
shadowmarlin22 shadowmarlin22 Active Member
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#62 ·
Stop the hate and just give us the adrenaline ☕

Just give us a reverse grid based on last race's results for this sprint and 30 laps—then take the average of qualifying and the sprint results—and let’s go...

It's called evolution.
Bradley King Bradley King Member
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#63 ·
shadowmarlin22 said:Go ahead and hate on it, just give us the adrenaline rush☕

Just give us a reverse grid based on last week's results for this Sprint race, run it for 30 laps, then take the mathematical average of the qualifying and Sprint race times, and let's get this show on the road...

Pure evolution right there.

Wouldn't it be better if we did the exact opposite?
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#64 ·
Let them drag out their positions 🙂
Nicholas Torres37 Nicholas Torres37 Newcomer
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#65 ·
George Russell is facing a three-place penalty

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darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#66 ·
Nicholas Torres37 said:George Russell getting hit with a 3-place penalty

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Totally deserved☕
Raymond Anderson4 Raymond Anderson4 Regular
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#67 ·
The real question is how much anyone is actually going to risk during these Sprint races. If a driver puts in a qualifying session that’s solid by their own standards, why gamble it all just to potentially end up at the back of the pack? And why should the guys sitting at the very top of the grid take unnecessary chances just to fight for position? It’s all for a measly 3, 2, or 1 point. In my view, the only drivers who are truly going to push the limits in a Sprint are the ones who had a rough qualifying session and see the race as their best shot at clawing back a couple of lost spots.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 VeteranOP
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#68 ·
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That’s true regarding FP. I think they completely missed the mark. Your idea about it being more logical to have the old format—FP1, FP2, then FP3 where the final order sets the grid for the Sprint race and everything else—actually makes way more sense.

Honestly, this is hands down the dumbest decision the higher-ups have ever cooked up...
The only interesting part is that none of the teams had the guts to slap them hard enough to wake them up.

I’m actually surprised anyone even bothered to pull a single lap during that famous FP2, because it’s fundamentally pointless.
You’re out there burning through engines and gearboxes that are supposed to last a specific number of qualifying sessions and races, and the payoff is zero...
Because even if you find a setting that actually suits the car better, you can't touch it before the Sprint race since the car is already under Parc Ferme rules...

So, FP2 in this weekend format is just pure stupidity. You're unnecessarily stressing the engine and the gearbox,
basically just inviting future mechanical failures for absolutely no reason, since any setup changes beyond minor cosmetic stuff are banned by the rules...

In reality, every single team is going to end up with more mileage on their components (FP2 + Sprint) than originally planned...
And later, when someone's gearbox or engine inevitably dies during a race, everyone's going to be screaming about why we even wasted time on that useless FP2 in the first place...
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 VeteranOP
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#69 ·
darkmarlin16 said:Fernando outmaneuvered him, totally expected ☕
George Russell screwed over Carlos Sainz, he earned that penalty. ☕

I'm with you on Sainz—the Golden Boy definitely wrecked him, though he bounced back pretty well after that...
But you could easily call Alonso the bad sprint Boy 🤣
since it’s a total mystery how he hasn't picked up a few penalties for his usual track wandering. 🤦
Just imagine if Alonso was stuck behind someone driving like that and you were the one commenting on it...
the epic whining over team radio and on this forum would be legendary for the next 100 years. 🤣
Ashley Ramirez4 Ashley Ramirez4 Active Member
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#70 ·
Raymond Anderson4 said:The real question is how much anyone is actually gonna risk during these Sprint races—I mean, if someone nails qualifying for their standards, why bother pushing it and potentially crashing out of the points? Or why would the guys at the very top even bother fighting for position? It’s all just for 3, 2, or 1 point, after all. I guess the only drivers who'll really dive in during a Sprint are the ones who had a rough qualifying session and see it as a chance to claw back a spot or two.

They need to rethink how they hand out points, both for the main race and the Sprint.

Maybe reward more positions with points—like, I don't know, going back to the old school way where the top 6 get points (with the same scale).
Also, bump up the points for the main race, but maybe just keep it to the top 10 scoring.

And honestly, they should probably let people overtake more aggressively after a Sprint race is over.
Raymond Anderson4 Raymond Anderson4 Regular
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#71 ·
Even back during his days at McLaren, Fernando Alonso had those moments—those aggressive contacts that definitely should have landed him in the penalty box. He was always a bit of a dirty driver, honestly, but he usually managed to stay out of trouble because his reputation preceded him.
fadedwalker18 fadedwalker18 Active Member
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#72 ·
Raymond Anderson4 said:Back when he was driving for McLaren, Alonso had his fair share of incidents and contacts that earned him penalties. He was a dirty driver, but his reputation always seemed to shield him.

Thank goodness he isn't a dirty driver. He's a fighter.
A lot of people are criticizing him for weaving on the straights during yesterday's F1 sprint. However, he wasn't doing it while someone was trying to overtake him, so you can't call it illegal lane changing. It’s nothing like what the "great" Max Verstappen did (was that in Belgium, maybe back with Kimi in 2017 or 2018?).

Lando Norris and Daniel Ricciardo were far enough back that he could weave without worrying about them catching his tow or getting caught in his slipstream.
shadowmarlin22 shadowmarlin22 Active Member
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#73 ·
Fernando Alonso is cut from the same cloth as Ayrton Senna or Michael Schumacher when it comes to pure driving style—it’s one of those "love him or hate him" personalities.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 VeteranOP
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#74 ·
fadedwalker18 said:Thank God he isn't a dirty driver. He’s a fighter.
A lot of people are calling him out for weaving on the fast stretches during yesterday's NASCAR sprint race. But he didn't do that while someone was trying to pass him, so you can't really call it a lane change violation. It's not like "the great" Max Verstappen (Belgium, Kimi back in 2017 or 2018?).

Lando Norris and Daniel Ricciardo were far enough back that he could weave like that without worrying about getting caught in their tow or slipstreaming.

Fernando Alonso is basically just a whiner, even more than Rubens Barrichello...
If anyone else had pulled a move like that, they'd still be crying about it today, if not hearing about it over the team radio through Monday.

I have no clue what we define as a "dirty driver," but honestly, I don't know what could possibly be dirtier than ordering a teammate to crash into a wall just so his buddy can win...
In Formula 1, there is a rock bottom, and it's called Singapore 2008... nothing is filthier than that, at least nobody has come up with a dirtier move yet.
Though I always forget that Alonso has nothing to do with that mess—he was actually an innocent victim in that whole episode. 🙂
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#75 ·
Lando Norris on Alonso's defensive moves:

"He was definitely weaving, sure, but by the time he started, I wasn't close enough to feel like it was actually dangerous."

"I don't see any wrongdoing there. People are talking, but I don't think he crossed the line. He was fine. He just understands his limits perfectly, which is great. Honestly, it just makes things more exciting—for him, for me, and for all of us watching. It was a solid battle."


That's all I have to say about that. 🥱
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#76 ·
Fernando & Lando > TBF1D

☕
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#77 ·


Check this out, seriously, just watch it. http://play.freestreams-live1.com/skysportsf1-stream/
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#78 ·
Absolute clowns over at the FIA. 🙂

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Bradley King Bradley King Member
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#79 ·
darkmarlin16 said:Total incompetence over at NASCAR. 🙂

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It’s a textbook example of what Formula 1 has devolved into. It's just one endless marketing machine now; they haven't actually cared about racing for quite some time.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 VeteranOP
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#80 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Norris on Alonso's defensive moves:

"There was obviously the weaving, but when he was doing it, I was never close enough for it to be dangerous."

"So, I don’t think he did anything wrong. Some people said he did, but I don’t think he did. He was fine. He just knows the limits of what he can do really, so it’s good. It makes it more exciting for him, for me and for everyone watching so it was a good battle."


That's about it. 🥱

Yeah, that's all there is to it...
Alonso is whining 🙂...
while Lando is just this super sweet, polite kid who speaks respectfully about his elders—especially about grandpas...

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