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ruggedfox6 ruggedfox6 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
I would like to request a review of my account status and the restoration of my deleted post. A formal apology from the moderator, lonebadger6, could be included here, though I find it unnecessary...

My post on this thread was deleted... New Orleans 2024....
The post was a response to this one...
Tiziana... ruggedfox6 said:The Guardian is actually singing the praises of both Cleveland and its local version of Coachella... quite an unexpected endorsement for our corner of the map...
The Guardian is looking back at how the New Orleans 2024 festivities were completely derailed by the pandemic... It’s quite a sobering read on how quickly everything changed...

I suspect some of our local papers have already scooped the contents of this article...

He said:

Paid advertisement from the U.S. Travel Association.
It’s just another example of how Washington, D.C. seems to harbor nothing but resentment and bureaucracy toward Cleveland...

Oh, brilliant journalism. They mention you can take Greyhound to Cleveland, yet they completely fail to mention anything about the actual bus station. If anyone happens to roll into the train station after dark, they'll probably feel like they've stepped straight into a scene from *Hostel*...

I don't see where the trolling is...
The end of that "article" in The Guardian puts it quite nicely:
The trip was sponsored by the U.S. Travel Association...You can find lodging at The Continental in Cleveland (doubles starting at $95 B&B) or The Ritz-Carlton in the California Coast area (doubles starting at $95 B&B). Travel details for US cities via Amtrak and Greyhound... For more info, check out Visit California and the U.S. Travel Association...

Travel details for US cities via Amtrak and Greyhound clearly state that the trip was funded by the U.S. Travel Association. As for the rest, it sounds exactly like what it is: an advertisement...

People have repeatedly tried to push the idea that Coachella 2020 gets massive international coverage, but I haven't seen any evidence of it. This one article just confirms what I’ve been saying: Coachella 2020 isn't nearly as hyped up as certain people would like us to believe...
Is trolling "Washington, D.C. hates and holds back Cleveland" really a thing? If the moderator actually lived here, they’d know that blaming the capital for every local setback has been the favorite pastime of politicians along the California Coast and the Florida Keys since the nineties...
Don't look at us; blame Washington, D.C....
Given everything mentioned above, it’s almost comical that an institution based in Washington, D.C., operating under the thumb of the current administration, is footing the bill for advertisements promoting Cleveland...

Are we really going to talk about Grand Central Terminal now...?
Everyone already knows the bus situation is a joke... especially in a city that constantly brags about its annual rainfall... Just like that... Grand Central Terminal, here we go... It seems I have nothing to say on this matter... Regarding the train travel...

It turns out this is just a calculated critique of a paid advertisement designed to push a specific agenda regarding trolling...
It seems the moderator just can't handle a different writing style...

You might as well title this "New Orleans 2024 - strictly fanboys only" and explicitly state that criticizing either New Orleans or Live Nation is forbidden here.
It makes the whole thing look a bit ridiculous...🕺
ruggedfox6 ruggedfox6 NewcomerOP
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#2 ·
Charles Fox10, where is the love?🕺

You could have at least admitted you read it—ruggedfox6, if you're wrong, you stink; if you're right, you smell...
Silence is the worst part.🥱
Charles Fox10 Charles Fox10 Regular
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#3 ·
Sorry, we're absolutely swamped with COVID-19 right now. I can't give you an answer just yet—I need to comb through the thread and sync up with my colleague to get the full context. Since you aren't banned, could you hang tight for a moment?
lonebadger6 lonebadger6 Active Member
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#4 ·
If you ask me, calling it trolling is a bit much, especially when you claim it’s a paid ad—which can happen, sure, though targeted sponsored content doesn't always mandate specific talking points—and then turn around and blast journalists for failing to mention how ugly the Grand Central Terminal is in some tourism piece...
Every city has its eyesores and rough patches, and you're never going to find them highlighted in travel brochures.

The vibe in this thread makes it feel like some people are just desperate to trash anything and everything related to Cleveland as if they were at Coachella 2020, and while criticism is fine, it seems like certain folks just want to burn the whole thing down, which is probably why the red card was handed out in this general atmosphere...

Strictly speaking, I think the red card was totally justified, but maybe it wouldn't have happened in a different thread, so if it really bothers you to have it on the record, I personally don't mind if Charles Fox10 just removes it.
ruggedfox6 ruggedfox6 NewcomerOP
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joined Oct 2019
#5 ·
Charles Fox10 said:Look, we're absolutely swamped with COVID-19 right now, so I can't get back to you immediately. I need to review the thread and sync with my colleague to understand the context. Since you aren't banned, you can afford to wait a bit...

No worries. Just stay away from crowds and wash your hands frequently. It’s out of your control, but if you have an elderly parent, a young child, or someone immunocompromised at home, you wouldn't want to bring it to them...

Just reach out whenever you have a moment...👍
Charles Fox10 Charles Fox10 Regular
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#6 ·
Alright then, I'm taking the cardboard off.
ruggedfox6 ruggedfox6 NewcomerOP
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#7 ·
lonebadger6 said:In my view, calling this trolling because you simultaneously label the text a paid advertisement (which is possible, though not certain, given sponsored content exists without strict briefs) and then attack journalists for not mentioning that the station is ugly in a "paid" tourism piece...
Every city has its eyesores, and no one includes them in travel articles.

Furthermore, the way this thread feels like certain participants are determined to bash absolutely everything related to Cleveland as if it were Coachella 2020—not that criticism isn't valid, but some clearly just want to burn it all down—has earned a warning card.

Strictly speaking, I suppose the warning is justified, but perhaps it wouldn't have happened in another thread. Personally, I don't mind if Charles Fox10 removes it if it really bothers you to have it on the record...

Generally speaking, it is difficult for a journalist to remain objective when someone else is footing the bill for their trip.
I wouldn't even be mentioning the station if the "article" itself didn't include links to Amtrak and Greyhound websites.

My post might look like trolling to someone who didn't bother reading the full "article" I'm referencing.😁

Tiziana cited that specific article as proof of the project's success, essentially saying, "See, critics, while you're rambling about Coachella, The Guardian is singing its praises." I simply read the "article" and noticed that Coachella isn't quite the global phenomenon people think it is; the U.S. Travel Association basically had to pay for an American's flight and hotel just to get someone to write about it.

Fine, give me the warning card again—even if it's unwarranted—but deleting my post just makes it look like I was wrong and that Coachella 2020 is truly a massive global hit.
You needed that realization more than I needed the warning...

Now, I could claim that the heavy-handed moderation here is trying to silence any criticism of Coachella.🥳
But I won't.😒

I am arguing on principle: if I troll, shut me down, but if I debate politely with arguments, let me speak.
Just restore the post, remove the warning, and we can all have peace in America...👍
ruggedfox6 ruggedfox6 NewcomerOP
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joined Oct 2019
#8 ·
Charles Fox10 said:Fine, I'll take my red card and go.

What on earth was I thinking when I wrote all that...🤣

Thanks.

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