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Expats in Ireland - Rolandus Forum

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wanderingdriver17 wanderingdriver17 MemberOP
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joined Oct 2019
#1 ·
God bless!

There was an "incident" recently where an entire thread got trashed by posts from rolandus, so the mods had to step in and wipe the slate clean.

I’m not sure what penalties were handed out, but clearly, they didn't work. We still have rolandus hanging around, adding absolutely zero value to the discussion—he wasn't there before, isn't there now, and has no intention of being. He just shows up to vent his frustrations by bashing anything related to Ireland using those same tired clichés he constantly dumps on the economics subforum.

He doesn't pop up quite as often anymore since the mods finally put a stop to it over there.

Then you’ve got Ambient, who’s basically the same story, relentlessly harping on about Denmark in a thread specifically about Ireland!

I’d suggest the moderators of that subforum consider handing out some fines to these users for these exact reasons.

Through that specific thread, I’ve actually met quite a few people in person... I’ve participated in discussions with constructive arguments and advice, even acting as a bit of a "mentor" for some during their relocation and integration process. That’s exactly what the thread should be for. People living in Ireland sharing their experiences, and those planning to move asking for guidance and direction. All without having to wade through a sea of off-topic, frustrated posters.

Thanks in advance!
Henry Moore2 Henry Moore2 Active Member
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joined Feb 2009
#2 ·
Thanks for the input! I’m going to run your suggestions by my colleague to see what we think. As for those sanctions, though... honestly, it looks like we're going to have to start handing out much tougher penalties. It turns out yellow cards just aren't cutting it, unfortunately.
wanderingdriver17 wanderingdriver17 MemberOP
16 messages
joined Oct 2019
#3 ·
Thanks so much!

The folks over at the economic bureau—especially Rolandus—have already been getting dragged through the mud quite a bit regarding Ireland and the diaspora there.

I’m assuming you guys can see those posts and all the nonsense they've been pushing, so if you could take a look... just for some context...
urbanowl81 urbanowl81 Member
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joined Nov 2019
#4 ·
Since we’re talking about emigration and the whole situation in Ireland, the mods really need to look at the posting history of whoever started this thread. Take today’s comment, for example—he describes people living in California in a really nasty way. It’s a malicious statement clearly designed to insult certain users and bait a reaction. And it isn't the first time either. What happens if someone bites on the provocation and snaps back with something like, "Fine, Californians are irresponsible, incompetent lazybones, but at least they aren't intellectually stunted creeps like..."? You end up with a massive circular argument, all because these malicious types aren't removed quickly enough. These provocations shouldn't go unpunished or receive such light penalties; individuals like this degrade the quality of this entire forum. Add to that the constant targeting of that woman from Miami, mocking her accent, and so on... the conclusion is obvious. Even if what he says were true, it’s no way to act, and it says more about him than it does about her. Also, there's no point constantly writing about yourself in superlatives and acting like you're important; let others decide that. This isn't Instagram where everyone needs to brag. Just as Ambient is tedious with Denmark, this guy is tedious with his constant whining. Ambient is always going off-topic regarding Denmark, which ruins the few interesting bits of info he actually shares, though it seems he isn't trolling intentionally—it’s actually surprising how calm he stays during the provocations and bullying. Even so, his posts definitely have no business being in a thread about Ireland.

While things like whether moving is worth it, salaries, or comparisons to the US are topics that constantly spark debates regarding life in Ireland, it's precisely because users will never agree on them (which is fine, a forum doesn't need to be a monolith) that these subjects should probably be moved to another thread—ideally Politics or maybe Economics. Let the Ireland thread stay for those arriving who need to know technical stuff, like life in Glenbeigh, opening a bank account, etc.
Henry Moore2 Henry Moore2 Active Member
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joined Feb 2009
#5 ·
urbanowl81 said:Since we’re already deep in this debate about moving abroad—specifically regarding life in Ireland—I really think the moderators should take a look at the posting history of the guy who started this thread. For instance, look at his comment today where he describes people living in California in a pretty nasty way. It’s clearly a malicious statement meant to insult certain users just to bait a reaction. And honestly, it's not the first time either. What happens if someone actually bites on his provocation and hits back with something like, "Fine, maybe Californians are irresponsible and lazy, but at least they aren't intellectually stunted jerks like..."? Then you get a massive flame war, all because these kinds of malicious "creations" aren't removed fast enough. These provocations shouldn't be allowed to slide without a penalty, because people like this really degrade the quality of this forum. Toss in the constant targeting of that woman from Miami, mocking her accent and everything, and the conclusion is obvious. Even if what he says were true, it isn't the right way to act, and it says more about him than it does about her. Plus, there's no point constantly talking about yourself in the superlatives and acting like you're so important; let everyone else decide that. Just like how Ambient gets so tedious with Denmark, this guy is just tedious with his constant whining. Ambient keeps going off-topic about Denmark, which ruins the few interesting bits of info he actually shares (about Denmark), though it seems to me he isn't trolling on purpose—it’s actually kind of surprising how calm he stays during the provocations and bullying. Still, his posts definitely have no business being in a thread about Ireland.

Even though things like whether it's worth leaving, salaries, or comparing the US to other places are topics that always spark arguments about life in Ireland—mostly because users will never agree on those points (which is fine, a forum doesn't need to be a monolith)—it might be better to move those discussions to another section, maybe Politics or even Economics. Let the Ireland thread stay for people who are actually moving and need practical stuff, like what it's like in Glenbeigh, opening a bank account, and so on. Basically, keep it to technical stuff.

Regarding the first part of your post, he was sanctioned immediately because that's just not the kind of stuff we allow in these discussions.

As for your second suggestion, it’s a bit tricky because some people are interested in economics and politics, and it would be ideal if people discussed those moderately, I agree. I like your idea; I'll chat with Filla and let you know what we decide.

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