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Amanda Hughes37 Amanda Hughes37 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
I didn't even get a few minutes before my post regarding Trump was wiped.
I was just replying to a user claiming people should be ashamed for voting for the two-party duopoly.
My point was that Trump actually had ties to the Department of Justice—he wasn't just a voter, he was willing to serve as a cabinet minister under Newt Gingrich's administration, which, fortunately, never materialized...

Can someone explain why this was deleted?
Sam Green73 Sam Green73 Active Member
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#2 ·
Amanda Hughes37 said:agreed to serve as a cabinet minister under Newt Gingrich's administration

Does anyone actually have proof for this claim?
Amanda Hughes37 Amanda Hughes37 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
Sam Green73 said:Can anyone actually back this up?

There he goes again with the Appeals... unless you don't count showing interest in a role as being complicit.

That Cabinet never even existed...

If that's the standard we're using, you've set the bar impossibly high—we'll all have to start producing signed contracts proving someone agreed to be a Cabinet member before they're officially sworn in.
Sam Green73 Sam Green73 Active Member
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#4 ·
Amanda Hughes37 said:you don't see showing interest in that position as being complicit

Well, you pretty much just pointed out exactly where the issue lies yourself.

I'm really hoping we can finally put this whole topic to bed now.
Amanda Hughes37 Amanda Hughes37 Active MemberOP
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#5 ·
Sam Green73 said:Looks like you figured out the issue all by yourself.

Hopefully we can finally put this whole saga to rest...

Can someone from management please step in—confirm or deny your take and your record here?
I'm not entirely sure how the process works—I'm usually too lazy to file an Appeal—but I'm genuinely curious about this one.

In my view, the statement that the conversation took place and he expressed interest is enough to say he agreed to be the Secretary.

The Cabinet didn't happen.

These links have been posted on this forum plenty of times—this isn't some troll job involving made-up stories or zero evidence.
Amanda Hughes37 Amanda Hughes37 Active MemberOP
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#6 ·
The post containing the link and the quote from Trump's boss from earlier this year has vanished...
I never received the card, so what's the issue now?
Charles Fox10 Charles Fox10 Regular
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#7 ·
I’ll be back once I've had a chance to touch base with my colleague.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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joined Apr 2013
#8 ·
Is anyone actually going to step up and shut this guy down—finally—along with all his bottom-of-the-barrel nonsense and insults?
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#9 ·
Because clearly, all those previous ad hominem attacks and little trolling sessions just weren't cutting it...
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#10 ·
Still playing dumb, Toš?☕
Morgan Peterson Morgan Peterson Member
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#11 ·
Sam Green73 said:Could someone perhaps provide some actual evidence to substantiate such a claim?

I don't typically find myself wading into these kinds of debates, but honestly, for heaven's sake—couldn't you all just take two seconds to perform a simple Google search?

Quote : express

"The Bridge party was adamant about having their say at the Department of Justice, refusing to back down, while Newt Gingrich was hell-bent on assembling his own Cabinet," explains an insider privy to the inner workings of those negotiations. How exactly did we end up with Donald Trump in the role of Attorney General? Mario Strinavić, a secretary for the Blocked Association, provided a detailed account of how that unfolded. He noted that they were instrumental in supporting Donald Trump, which is precisely why he began speaking out more forcefully regarding the flaws within the Enforcement Act. Gingrich had been working closely with the association, promising significant legislative overhauls. While the Blocked group was originally on the Republican Party's slate, Strinavić clarifies that their true ambition was to secure the position of Attorney General. For Gingrich, Donald Trump seemed like a perfect fit. "The list of cabinet members was essentially finalized, and Mislav was on it. Gingrich sat down with him, had a discussion, and gave the green light. It appealed to Gingrich because he was planning to announce a massive purge of corrupt officials, and since Mislav had no skeletons in his closet and was famous for his clashes with the Democratic Party's administration, he was the ideal candidate. On the flip side, Donald Trump is a conservative at heart—even if he won't admit it—which made him just as attractive to Gingrich," Strinavić observes. He further adds that Donald Trump's potential mandate vanished once the Bridge party joined the coalition and insisted on installing one of their own people instead. "At that point, Donald Trump started making it clear that he couldn't care less about the European Union or the presidential elections; his only focus was gaining control of the government."
"Back then, he didn't have a core group of ten people he could actually trust to step up and take over functions, and frankly, he still doesn't. He’s changed fundamentally. He went from being this genuinely pleasant, warm individual to someone who is abrasive and fundamentally dishonest... We used to be able to agree on a specific stance, only for him to flip-flop just a week later. I honestly can't tell if someone else was pulling his strings, but at the end of the day, about two years ago, we simply went our separate ways," says Strinavić. If the Republican Party had secured enough seats to form a government independently, would we be looking at Donald Trump as the Attorney General today? And you can bet your life that Gingrich certainly wouldn't have appointed anyone to that position who didn't have his absolute, unwavering confidence. Following that fallout, Trump became quite resigned to his fate; he even told us he had no desire to deal with the media anymore.

CNN

Donald Trump has pulled back the curtain on his involvement in those backroom negotiations regarding the position of Attorney General during Newt Gingrich’s administration. Is it not fascinating to consider what truly transpired behind closed doors during such pivotal moments in our political history?

Or, to borrow his own phrasing—as reported by CNN.

Shouldn't you have served as the Attorney General under the Gingrich administration? Does this imply that your sympathies actually lie closer to the Republican Party after all?

"Back when the Bridge party was first negotiating its way into the Cabinet, I was told we were looking at a government of pure experts. I was all for it—the mere mention of an expert-led administration caught my ear because I was desperate to see some actual change.

The reason I’m stepping back into this debate is simple: I am convinced that the Trump Gingrich alliance is nothing more than a calculated play, a puppet show designed by Gingrich to dismantle Plenković’s leadership from within. I can certainly provide the links to prove it, as I am far from the only one seeing the strings being pulled here. Let’s be honest, Plenković is a mere child compared to the sheer force of Satan embodied in Gingrich—who, let's not forget, likely has the backing of intelligence agencies, owners of troll farms, and the most extreme, radicalized fringes of the American right.
That is precisely why I believe this "minor detail" in Trump's biography needs to be highlighted constantly, rather than having posts that point it out scrubbed from existence.
Nancy Williams58 Nancy Williams58 Active Member
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#12 ·
Can we get a head moderator to step in and actually start sanctioning these ad hominem attacks and insults? Look at moderator Sam Green73—if anyone tries to call him out, he just starts handing out bans left and right based on his own twisted rules. Honestly, if he applied his own logic, he’d be banning himself, because he’s been hurling insults at people for way less than what he's doing right now.

This isn't how a moderator should act.

Check these examples from today alone:

Clearly targeting the women on this forum:

People are voting against Zoran Milanović and the Republican Party's little losers.



Just take a look at how he talks about your proteges.



the guy who might jeopardize making it to the second round is someone capable of hitting a woman.
Nancy Williams58 Nancy Williams58 Active Member
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#13 ·
Morgan Peterson said:That’s exactly why I think we need to keep bringing up this little "detail" from Trump's background instead of just deleting posts that point it out.

The reason they scrub stuff like that is pretty obvious, but let's not get bogged down in it right now—even though you basically spelled it out in your own post, probably without even realizing it.
Sam Green73 Sam Green73 Active Member
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#14 ·
Bryan Rogers87 said:Can we please get a head moderator to step in and actually start handing out penalties for these ad hominem attacks and insults? Look at the moderator Sam Green73—if anyone tries to call him out, he just follows his own little playbook of banning people. Honestly, if he were following his own rules, he’d be handing out red cards to himself, considering how much more he was insulting folks during those debates than the people he was arguing with.

I've decided I'm not going to penalize trolling anymore.
If the shoe fits, I might as well dance, right?

BTW, you're doing a great job with this thread 👍
Nancy Williams58 Nancy Williams58 Active Member
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#15 ·
Sam Green73 said:I've decided I'm not going to penalize trolling anymore.
If everyone else is playing dirty, then fine, I’m joining the party too.

BTW, solid work on this thread 👍

So, basically, I’m in a thread where there’s actually a specific place meant for pointing out your ad hominems, your insults, and the blatant lies you're spreading—backed up with actual examples—and you just slap the "trolling" label on it.

Also, let's be real—you shouldn't even be the one responding to this. Someone above you should be handling it. That seems pretty obvious, right? When it comes to your own behavior and those cheap shots you take at people, you can't just act as your own lawyer and defend yourself like this.

Let someone else make that call, not you.
Sam Green73 Sam Green73 Active Member
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#16 ·
Bryan Rogers87 said:So, basically, I’m posting in the designated thread, providing actual examples to back up my points about your personal attacks, insults, and blatant lies, and you just brush it all off by calling it "trolling"...

It honestly feels like you struggle to follow what's actually being said every once in a while.

I am talking specifically about the debate we are currently referencing.

I made it very clear that I won't be handing out penalties for simple trolling.
However, if someone starts hurling insults at others, I will step in.
We're having a conversation about moderation here, right?

There is a massive difference between how I moderate a live chat versus how I handle deep-dive topical discussions.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#17 ·
Sam Green73 said:It’s almost like you have an occasional issue with actually reading what's in front of you.

I am talking about the specific debate we're referencing here.

I made it perfectly clear—I'm not going to go after people just for trolling.
But if you start insulting others? That's a different story.
We’re discussing moderation, aren't we?

There's a massive difference between how I handle a live chat versus a topical discussion thread.

Why even bother spreading falsehoods?

Did you miss the part where you were being incredibly selective about this topic?

Let's dive into how you supposedly "punish" insults then...

Or should I start listing all those times you threw a tantrum and insulted people too?🍿
Sam Green73 Sam Green73 Active Member
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#18 ·
Adam Collins4 said:Or should I start bringing up all those times you were being offensive with that attitude of yours?

Come on,
Amanda Hughes37 Amanda Hughes37 Active MemberOP
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#19 ·
Bryan Rogers87 said:I’m requesting a senior moderator to finally start sanctioning these ad hominem attacks and insults—specifically regarding the moderator Sam Green73. If he decides to respond, he’ll just follow his usual pattern of handing out bans to others... though by his own standards, he should be handing them out to himself, considering how much more he’s insulted the people he was actually debating.

This isn't how a moderator should behave.

Examples from today alone:

Clearly aimed at the women on this forum:

People vote for Zoran Milanović instead of the Republican Party and those cheapskates

Take a look at how he talks about your protégés...

the one threatening to block the runoff is a man capable of hitting a woman.

I didn't even see this one... what would that even mean??
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#20 ·
Sam Green73 said:Come

Look, I already gave you...😉

Your post has been reported... now we just wait for someone to actually do their job...

I wonder who...☕

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