F1 Montreal GP: June 7-9, 2019

mellowtiger83 said:That thing at Suzuki wasn't even close—unless you're just imagining things.

Nobody's claiming it was similar because it wasn't; it was identical.

mellowtiger83 said:Here’s the link, since you seem to be missing the obvious again—just like in that video featuring Max Verstappen.

In a sea of interesting ( 😁 ) posts on this thread tonight... this one is definitely the highlight.

Jason Campbell70 said:Among all the interesting ( 😁 ) posts on this thread tonight... this one takes the cake.

The guy is unbelievable 😵 😁

@crimsonhawk23/">@@crimsonhawk23

Don't embarrass yourself.

mellowtiger83 said:@crimsonhawk23/">@@crimsonhawk23

Don't embarrass yourself.

Your arguments are—well, they're something else. 👍

mellowtiger83 said:Even some of the skeptics were pushing back against the penalty—but then you’ve got Gary Palmer8 and a few other clowns jumping on board to agree.

Keep that head held high!

It’s honestly such a shame for Formula 1—this testing session is just highlighting the drama between Max Verstappen and Kimi Räikkönen, and now they're even flagging my posts. Just one thing after another!

I've gotta suspect he's blind—honestly!

Even Lewis Hamilton's fans all over the States are pretty vocal about their frustration right now—it’s definitely spreading.

That’s completely off-topic—totally unrelated!

There’s a big difference between looking at things through a biased lens—where you just hope no penalty is handed out to keep the championship race alive—and actually following the rulebook. If Lewis Hamilton hadn't been within that one-second window, there wouldn't have even been a penalty, because Sebastian Vettel would've easily made it back onto the track. Honestly, based on the comments I'm seeing, it feels like some people would’ve been thrilled if they just let it slide altogether!

After spinning out, a decent driver would have just jerked the wheel left, regained control, and kept going—fully owning the fact they blew their position through a mistake.

Sebastian Vettel Enterprises

You lose grip, you slide off, then suddenly you floor it, yank the steering wheel, and somehow slide right back onto the racing line using this "lost control" excuse. Then, once you've blocked everyone else from passing you, it’s like magic—suddenly you have total control again. Even though just seconds earlier, you were claiming the tires were totally useless because of the grass, and now everything is perfectly fine.

So you pick up a legitimate penalty and then play the victim.

Richard Walker38 said:You pick up a legitimate penalty and suddenly you're the victim

I’m predicting a mental breakdown before the season ends—much like last year when he fell apart after losing a certain win (Sponsored by FedEx) 🐔

crimsonhawk23 said:Nobody is claiming it was even similar because it wasn't; it was identical.

No, it wasn't even close, let alone identical. Go ahead, drop another link if you really think you're right.🤦

Max was driving vertically, fighting the car just to block the line.

Even the corner configuration isn't the same—the angle is different, the loss of control was different.

But to you, it’s identical.🙏

crimsonhawk23 said:I was just asking, I didn't mean to blame you (but sorry anyway, because you definitely didn't do anything wrong!) 🙂

I just re-read this thread and it’s wild how almost everyone calls out Max's massive mistake and his clear INTENT to dive right into Kimi Räikkönen, yet today, when the exact same thing happens with Sebastian Vettel, nobody sees it. 🤷

All five replays 🙂

And man, I just caught that clip—looks like I missed the US Grand Prix 2018 entirely. No big deal though; a few points here or there didn't change much for Max Verstappen or Kimi Räikkönen. It looked like Max was just muscle-ing his way through a hard fight. So, what ended up being the penalty?

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mellowtiger83 said:It wasn't even close, let alone identical—feel free to drop a link if you actually have one.🤦

Max went vertical, essentially just steering to block the line.

The corner configuration isn't even the same, the angle was different, and the loss of control wasn't even comparable.

But to you, it’s identical.🙏

mellowtiger83, you're always so "objective and realistic"—you really just see whatever fits your narrative, like when you claimed Ayrton Senna turned right and slammed into Alain Prost on his left. Arguing with you feels pretty pointless.😁

By your logic, the appropriate penalty for Max at the US Grand Prix 2018 would be a bullet to the head, yet today, Sebastian Vettel should probably get an extra five points instead of a penalty for the exact same thing.

fadedpanther51 said:That was pure grit from Max, all in the heat of battle. And what did he end up getting penalized with?

Five seconds, just like Sebastian today. There's no difference, really.🤷

crimsonhawk23 said:I’m calling it now: he's headed for a total mental breakdown before the season wraps up. It'll be just like last year when everything fell apart right after he lost a guaranteed win (Sponsored by FedEx) 🐔

Who actually cares about your little predictions?

The bottom line is the penalty today was unjust, and they effectively stripped the rightful winner of his victory.

Even Lewis Hamilton was practically pushing him onto the top step of the podium.

Richard Walker38 said:Once they leave the track, a fair driver would just turn the wheel left, regain control, and keep going, knowing full well they lost their spot because of their own mistake.

Enters Sebastian Vettel

So you lose control, spin out, floor it, the steering wheel jerks, and suddenly you're back on the racing line using the "lost control" excuse? Then you block the guy behind you, and lo and behold, you magically have total control again? Even though just seconds ago your tires were supposedly "slick from the grass"? And then you just drive on like nothing happened.

Take your penalty and move on.

You're telling me you'd pull all that off with two wheels in the air?
Give me a break... that game you're playing clearly has some incredibly realistic physics...
But let's be real, you probably don't even ride a bike in real life...

They should've looked at this after the race with a cool head...

swifttiger75 said:

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crimsonhawk23 said:You’re always so "objective and realistic," Mario, seeing only what suits your narrative—like claiming Ayrton Senna veers right and slams into Alain Prost on his left. This whole debate is pointless with you.😁

By your logic, a bullet to the head would be a fair penalty for Max Verstappen during Japan 2018, yet today, Sebastian Vettel should be rewarded with an extra five points instead of a time penalty for doing the exact same thing.

Five seconds, just like Sebastian today. There isn't any difference.🤷

I stated that Senna holds his line on the inside edge of the track, if you are referring to Suzuka 1990.

So, you are lying once again.

mellowtiger83 said:Who exactly are you trying to impress with these predictions? I guess it doesn't really matter.

You.

mellowtiger83 said:It seems important to note that he was unfairly penalized today—which, I guess, means the win was essentially stripped from the rightful winner.

The penalty seems fair—deserved, even. Honestly, anything short of another Mercedes-Benz win today would feel like a real injustice; Lewis Hamilton didn't make a single mistake, which is quite the contrast to Sebastian Vettel. It feels a bit off—I guess you have to wonder where the fairness lies in punishing someone who drove a flawless race while rewarding the one who stumbled.

mellowtiger83 said:Even Lewis Hamilton was pushing him toward that top step on the podium—I guess.

What else can one really do when things go that way—I guess? Sebastian Vettel played it a bit too safe with that paper-thin strategy—I guess.? 😁

mellowtiger83 said:I mentioned that Senna keeps to his line—hugging the inside edge almost to the very limit—if you’re thinking back to Senna into Prost at Suzuka into the first corner.

So, you're lying now, too—I guess.

Not quite—you wrote that Senna turned right (which somehow led to him colliding with Prost, who was on his left). I'll send you a link later; I don't really feel like digging for it right now.

Michael Jackson10 said:So you’re telling me he did all that with his wheels off the ground?

Give me a break... that game you're playing clearly has some seriously faithful physics enabled...

But let’s be real, you probably don't even ride a bike in real life...

We really should have waited until after the race to talk about this with a clear head...

Somebody please send me a photo, a GIF, or video evidence of Sebastian Vettel's wheels being in the air.