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How long is the harassment on Alternative and Fringe science going to be tolerated without any respo

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Participants Brenda Gonzalez12Roger Cooper91neoneagle93Daniel Davis40Elizabeth JacksonDonna Miller4Jessica Morris6Linda Moore51Gregory Ramirez2
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 MemberOP
45 messages
joined Mar 2017
#1 ·
Honestly, I feel like I’m going in circles here! Reporting this user post by post within the Fringe science section just doesn't seem to be getting anywhere, so there's really no point in doing it that way anymore. That's why I'm bringing this over here—I am just begging for some kind of reaction from the mods! For several threads now, we've actually had open discussions on the PZK regarding this specific user's "writing style." Even though people report him constantly, Bonecrusher hasn't technically broken the hard rules yet, but he has this incredible knack for provoking people in a way that turns every single thread into absolute chaos. He basically just nukes them.

Take his thread about the Titanic, for example; he filled it with such nonsense it was actually chilling. Then there was the "moon landing: truth or lie?" topic, which became completely unreadable because of him. He even cooked up a thread about Paul McCartney just because he felt like dropping a bunch of YouTube links to songs. And don't even get me started on the Great Pyramid of Giza thread—he turned that into a total playground for bullying and making fun of everyone. Seriously, when does it end?

So, here is a collection of posts from that Giza thread that really ought to be reported for ad hominem attacks, off-topic rambling, and straight-up trolling, if nothing else.

As an example of his "knowledge" regarding Giza, he claims it's like a wall in Jerusalem.

Just a duplicate of the same post.

And on top of all that, he constantly accuses other users of being clones of one another! According to him, neoneagle93, Zombie666, zecopas, Ethan Brooks59, Roger Cooper91, Smartfart, hepokS2, and hawker are all just bots or clones. So, if it makes things easier for the staff, maybe you could check out this supposed "criminal gang" consisting of just one guy (who is probably one of the people listed above).

Between posting complete nonsense and inserting fake quotes into his profile signature, he's already been reported here on the PZK, but nothing ever happened. Because of that, he just keeps up this little "hobby," depending on which user happens to call him out in a thread.
Roger Cooper91 Roger Cooper91 Member
24 messages
joined Jun 2014
#2 ·
Regarding this whole situation, I have a quick question for the moderators: is it actually allowed to call other people clones? To me, it feels like a straight-up insult because it’s basically insinuating someone lacks integrity. Not to mention it's completely off-topic. Honestly, when someone keeps being a nuisance on this same forum, I don't have any better way to put it than calling them an idiot—do I get an immediate red card for that?
neoneagle93 neoneagle93 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Nov 2010
#3 ·
I have a feeling this level of tolerance is going to drag on until Doomsday...
It says everything you need to know that this is already the sixth thread on PZK where this guy is either the sole focus or the main target of discussion.
Daniel Davis40 Daniel Davis40 Member
31 messages
joined Oct 2015
#4 ·
I’m being completely serious here—why on earth are you still giving him the time of day? The guy is clearly just bored and hunting for attention; as long as he keeps getting a reaction out of you, he’s got all the fuel he needs to keep this toxic cycle going. Stop replying to his posts—no matter how much he tries to bait you or drag you into an argument—stop putting his quotes in your signatures, and for heaven's sake, stop starting new threads about him. Just send a quick private message to the others and tell them to stay clear. If you actually cut off his oxygen, he’ll lose interest and vanish before you know it. We've seen this play out before.
Roger Cooper91 Roger Cooper91 Member
24 messages
joined Jun 2014
#5 ·
Lana, look, I tried to take the high road here. I ignored all his usual trash talk, and honestly, it seems like he’s finally starting to come to his senses.
neoneagle93 neoneagle93 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Nov 2010
#6 ·
And so the "dance" continues...
It’s pretty obvious that those in charge couldn't care less about following the rules.
Roger Cooper91 Roger Cooper91 Member
24 messages
joined Jun 2014
#7 ·
Honestly, I’m starting to feel a bit overwhelmed by all this 🤦
Elizabeth Jackson Elizabeth Jackson Member
38 messages
joined Nov 2012
#8 ·
Nicole Johnson20 said:I’m being completely serious here—why aren't you all just ignoring him? The guy is clearly bored and just looking for an audience; as long as he keeps getting a reaction from you, he’s got all the fuel he needs to keep going in that exact same tone. My advice? Don't reply to his posts, no matter how much he tries to bait you, don't include his quotes in your signatures, and please, stop starting new threads about him. Maybe even send a quick private message to others to suggest they do the same. You'll see—he'll lose interest and vanish almost immediately. It happens more often than you'd think.

That is a fantastic point. 👍
It honestly feels like people are acting as if they are obsessed with him, or like this particular user has somehow manipulated them, when in reality, it’s quite evident given how much a handful of them spend their precious time and energy on his antics. 😍
It's almost as if he just presses a button and, like clockwork, they’re either up or down. It reminds me of an elevator that only moves whenever the owner decides to hit the switch. 😁

Personally, if I file a report and see absolutely nothing happening, I tend to assume that perhaps no rule was actually broken. I suppose you all might reach a similar conclusion, wouldn't you? 🤷
Daniel Davis40 Daniel Davis40 Member
31 messages
joined Oct 2015
#9 ·
I have no idea what you think was "brilliantly stated" in my post—especially since you’re treating my words as if you agree with them, only to follow up with something I never even remotely suggested 🤷
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The guy is clearly trolling, stirring the pot, and just wrecking discussions in the Edge of Science section. Just because nobody reacts doesn't mean a rule hasn't been broken—I've seen plenty of times where people react and yet no rules were actually violated
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I'm sure you're aware of that, too, but you're being intentionally provocative here, which honestly isn't a great look for you
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Donna Miller4 Donna Miller4 Member
16 messages
joined Dec 2021
#10 ·
And who else is going to sit there whining and playing the victim if not that same old crew of scientists? Just those two guys. I swear, I haven’t read this much pure fiction in my entire life. Honestly, I’m not even going to drag this out or point fingers at anyone specific, because frankly, backstabbing like that just makes me sick. I refuse to sink to their level. Peace to all the honest people on here.👍😁
Jessica Morris6 Jessica Morris6 Active Member
195 messages
joined Nov 2022
#11 ·
Robert Fox78 said:And who else is going to step up and call out this nonsense if not that same well-known group of scientists? Just those two of them... I honestly can’t recall ever reading such a blatant collection of lies in my entire life. I’m not going to sit here and drag things out any further, nor am I going to point fingers at specific people, because quite frankly, I find this kind of backstabbing behavior absolutely revolting. I simply refuse to stoop to that level... My regards to all the honest folks on this forum.👍😁

Everything they’re saying is true, and honestly, you've managed to turn every single possible topic into a complete mess...
Linda Moore51 Linda Moore51 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Mar 2017
#12 ·
Nicole Johnson20 said:I honestly have no clue what exactly you think was "brilliantly stated" in my post, especially since you’ve gone ahead and treated my words as if you were agreeing with me, only to pivot immediately into some nonsense that I never even remotely intended to say. 🤷

Look, some people are just out here trolling and intentionally baiting others, completely tearing apart the integrity of these NRZ threads. Just because there isn't an immediate reaction doesn't mean a rule hasn't been broken—I’ve seen plenty of instances where I was certain a line had been crossed, yet nothing happened, and then other times where people go ballistic over absolutely nothing at all.

I’m pretty sure you’re already aware of that, but you’re out here intentionally picking a fight, which honestly doesn't do you any favors.

😁😁
And just like that, you’re heading straight to my ignore list too, darling. 😁
Daniel Davis40 Daniel Davis40 Member
31 messages
joined Oct 2015
#13 ·
Hopefully not. 😁 I still go on raw food diets every now and then, so I'm praying they don't kick me out of the cult 😬
neoneagle93 neoneagle93 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Nov 2010
#14 ·
Ethan Barrett22 said:If I flag something and see absolutely zero response from the mods, my logical takeaway is that no rules were actually broken. Isn't that how everyone else interprets it too? 🤷


So, let me get this straight. If you report, say, big pharma companies making chemotherapy drugs or vaccines and claim they’re dangerous, and then there's total silence from the admins, you just assume the rules weren't violated and that the products are perfectly safe?!
In other words, according to your logic, they're completely harmless?! 😁
Roger Cooper91 Roger Cooper91 Member
24 messages
joined Jun 2014
#15 ·
Honestly, I don't even care anymore. To me, Robert Fox78 is just the ultimate litmus test for seeing which other users are willing to defend his absolute garbage.👍
Elizabeth Jackson Elizabeth Jackson Member
38 messages
joined Nov 2012
#16 ·
Nicole Johnson20 said:I’m really not sure what you found so brilliant about my post

Well, for one, you suggested they just ignore him instead of spending their entire lives writing endless Markov commentaries about his every move. And it was also quite helpful when you advised them not to waste their energy on him at all. In my opinion, stellar advice.

Nicole Johnson20 said:since you took my post as if you agreed with it, only to then say something I didn't even remotely intend to imply

Fair enough. I started by agreeing with your point, and then I simply added some of my own observations. If I overstepped by doing that, I sincerely apologize.

Nicole Johnson20 said:The guy is just trolling, provoking people, and completely wrecking the NRZ threads.

It seems like you might not be following that subforum closely, because that isn't actually the case.
Do you have any links that could back up that claim?

If you take a look at the threads where Robert Fox78 posts, you'll see he stays on topic. He isn't being insulting, he isn't attacking anyone, and he isn't looking for fights. It's actually the opposite—other users tend to dogpile him simply because they can't handle differing perspectives or they dislike how he expresses himself. They attack him constantly, yet he hasn't broken a single rule. That's precisely why he hasn't received a warning.

Nicole Johnson20 said:just because there isn't a moderator response doesn't mean a rule wasn't broken (as I've noticed myself, sometimes there's a reaction even when no rules were violated at all).

That is true.

Nicole Johnson20 said:I suspect you're already aware of that, but choosing to provoke me here feels pretty unnecessary, and frankly, it doesn't reflect well on you.

If that’s truly your perspective, then I find that quite concerning.
Roger Cooper91 Roger Cooper91 Member
24 messages
joined Jun 2014
#17 ·
Ethan Barrett22 said:If you actually take a second to look at the topics Robert Fox78 posts about, you’ll see he stays on track. He isn't out there being offensive or taking cheap shots at anyone,

🤦

Like I said, it’s a solid litmus test.
Daniel Davis40 Daniel Davis40 Member
31 messages
joined Oct 2015
#18 ·
Ethan Barrett22 said:So, your brilliant advice was to just ignore him instead of spending their entire lives writing endless essays about his every move—much like those endless Markov treatises. It’s also just wonderful that you suggested they shouldn't bother themselves with him at all. Truly top-tier advice right there.

Look, I initially agreed with your post before adding my own observations. If I overstepped by doing that, my sincerest apologies.

It seems you aren't really paying attention to this subforum because none of this is actually based on the truth.
Can you actually provide a link to anything that backs up your claim?

If you actually bothered to look at the threads Robert Fox78 posts in, you'd see he sticks to the topic—he isn't insulting anyone, he isn't attacking anyone, and he isn't picking fights. In fact, it's everyone else who does that to him simply because they can't handle a differing opinion or they dislike how he presents his views. They dogpile him constantly, yet the man hasn't broken a single rule. And that is precisely why he hasn't received a warning.

That is correct.

If you truly believe that, it's honestly concerning.

I have no intention of wasting my energy on these kinds of outbursts...
neoneagle93 neoneagle93 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Nov 2010
#19 ·
Ethan Barrett22 said:It seems like you aren't keeping up with that subforum because none of that actually matters when it comes to the truth.
Can you provide a link to anything that actually backs up what you're claiming?

If you bother to look at the threads Robert Fox78 posts in, you'll see he stays on topic, doesn't resort to insults, and avoids attacking anyone. He isn't the one picking fights; rather, other people are coming after him simply because they can't handle a different perspective or don't like his delivery. They dogpile him constantly, yet the guy hasn't broken a single rule. That’s exactly why he hasn't received a single warning.

You honestly think he isn't breaking rules?!
Then explain why he was throwing a tantrum on the boards right after that cloning expert got banned.
And why is it that he is so rarely, if ever, disciplined for insulting other members?
Don't even get me started on the weird stuff—the comments about body parts, the shoe-licking nonsense, and all that other filth...

If you'd just take off those rose-colored glasses and look at how his "beloved" is actually behaving on this site, you'd see the reality.
Saying he's a "wonderful person" is something only someone blinded by infatuation or a total troll would say.
There is no middle ground here.
Donna Miller4 Donna Miller4 Member
16 messages
joined Dec 2021
#20 ·
neoneagle93 said:Wait, you’re seriously telling me he isn't breaking the rules?!
So then why? Just crying on the forum now? Really? So, what comes after the god of cloning?
So then why is it always way too mild and happens far too rarely? Getting punished? Seriously? Because? Insults? Seriously? What's up, forum crowd?
Let’s talk about the absolute filth going on here—people sucking on each other's body parts, kissing shoes, and all that other disgusting crap. Can we just say no? Seriously?

Maybe if you'd take off those rose-colored glasses for once, you'd actually see how much of a mess this "forum romance" thing really is? Seriously, can we get some objectivity here?
Saying someone is a "wonderful person"? Please. You’re either blinded by love or you're just straight-up trolling.
There is no third option.

I had to jump in because I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. So, what, you guys are gonna ban me from the "On the edge of possibility" thread now? I only posted there occasionally just to mess around... Fine. Honestly, I already stopped posting on a few other threads just to keep neoneagle93 and Monty happy. Just trying to give them a win since they clearly can't find happiness anywhere else. Maybe I screwed up, but whatever. But seriously, neoneagle93, you’ve actually crossed the line this time. You're out here spinning nothing but lies about me. You don't get jokes, you don't get sarcasm—you don't get anything. That's why you and your "soulmate" Monty resort to whining and insulting anyone who doesn't parrot your exact opinions. It’s pretty obvious you're just venting your own frustrations caused by a total lack of actual knowledge. You're the one who even pushed that ridiculous theory that "Sea to be water." And Monty was right there backing you up. According to you, the ocean doesn't even count toward that 72% of water coverage on Earth. If you're going to reject all oceans, why don't you tell us how much water is actually left on the planet? You even went as far as saying an ocean and a sea aren't the same thing and have nothing to do with each other... Don't even get me started on the rest of your "Platinum" theories.
So, you actually think H2O isn't just water? For you, the ocean is some kind of lethal poison you can't even touch. Please. I swallow at least a liter of seawater every single day when I’m out swimming, and look at me—still alive. The ocean is easily the healthiest thing on this entire planet. You clearly have no clue that island cities with zero fresh water survive by drinking desalinated seawater. Desalination is apparently as foreign to you as grandma’s old high-waisted trousers. Honestly, you're acting like a total toddler along with your little Monty.

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