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The mods and admins are a total joke

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Casey Moore3 Casey Moore3 MemberOP
13 messages
joined Jan 2015
#1 ·
There’s an old saying: "Give someone power if you want to see their true "

Rules aren't just meant for the forum users; they apply to the administrators too.

Basically, a thread I started was deleted after being active for at least a month, even though nobody violated any site policies or acted out of line.

I was the one who originally opened the topic.
I didn't receive a notification, an explanation, or anything else.

It feels like nothing more than a moderator power trip.
Casey Moore3 Casey Moore3 MemberOP
13 messages
joined Jan 2015
#2 ·
It’s disappointing to see that this level of dysfunction is considered standard practice in this complaints section.
Threads get deleted whenever it suits the staff, yet the admins and moderators seem to hold themselves completely unaccountable for anything.
They won't even address threads specifically meant for filing these grievances.
I mean, you actually shut down a discussion about Miami Beach.

And when anyone calls you out on it, you just go silent because there's nothing left to say.

I’ve always been pretty skeptical of online forums like this—given how people typically behave online, it took me quite a while to finally decide to register...

But I honestly didn't expect the management here to be operating at such a low level.

I'm out.
Carol Price4 Carol Price4 Regular
380 messages
joined Nov 2019
#3 ·
Awesome—this thread is all about pulling cash out of a company and stuff like that...

So, they're either just pocketing the cash directly—or they’re faking the profits by labeling a purchase as a business expense or an investment.
Casey Moore3 Casey Moore3 MemberOP
13 messages
joined Jan 2015
#4 ·
Exactly, what’s the issue here?

We are simply discussing real-life scenarios.
No one is inciting anyone to do anything, nor are we in a position as employees to be able to (manipulate corporate finances).
I was merely presenting my perspective on the situation and asking to hear other people's opinions and experiences.
No crime has been committed. At least, I haven't committed any.
But if we find ourselves in a position to save a few bucks, why shouldn't we?

Some people might agree to such an arrangement with their employer, while others won't.
You are entitled to express your opinion. You can moderate the thread and steer the discussion. We can all learn from each other's examples.

Or, we can just pretend nothing is happening.

It would be much more reasonable for a moderator to step in and issue a warning if they feel something is inappropriate, rather than just deleting the entire thread without any explanation.

In essence, wiping out entire threads is pointless. Threads should be locked and left up as an example, accompanied by an explanation.

PS

Since I've already started typing...

I can actually look at my own situation this way:

Suppose my employer buys a welding machine for me as an example. 😎
The company's business is centered around that field. I am simply learning new technologies outside of regular working hours at my own expense, utilizing tax exemptions available through company purchases. From this perspective, with a bit more data, everything can be legally justified.
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
413 messages
joined Aug 2013
#5 ·
What exactly is your problem?

Once you all learn some manners and stop using this forum as a playground for personal vendettas, then—and only then—can you reopen this thread.
Rachel Ortiz33 Rachel Ortiz33 Active Member
84 messages
joined Jul 2012
#6 ·
Mods should probably chill out and be respectful instead of calling users punks
Casey Moore3 Casey Moore3 MemberOP
13 messages
joined Jan 2015
#7 ·
I honestly have no idea what kind of vendettas you're talking about.

I started this thread with nothing but good intentions, not to incite any criminal activity.
If people think we're encouraging crime here, then they shouldn't be part of this community in the first place.
There’s really no need to dig up old grievances either.

What bothers me is that this was handled without any warning or explanation.
Furthermore, I don't believe there was any necessity for such an action at all.
I've been active on various international forums for years, and I have never once seen a thread deleted like this without prior notice.

Let things stay as they are now. But please, take this as a lesson learned.

You can't moderate a conversation through force—at least, not always.

Anyway, take care.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#8 ·
Just a quick heads-up for everyone: we have a strict rule against asking for or offering advice on anything illegal. It doesn't matter if people in the real world get away with it all the time—we aren't about that here. We’re really trying to keep this community as ethical as possible, and our main goal is to make sure we're preventing fraud and keeping things above board.
crimsonjackal63 crimsonjackal63 Active Member
55 messages
joined Mar 2012
#9 ·
I didn't catch the specific thread that got nuked, but here’s my take on the situation:

Look, obviously you have to scrub posts that call for breaking the law. Simple. But honestly? It’s totally anti-business to ban discussions about legal ways to manage cash flow from your own company—as long as everything stays strictly within the bounds of the law.

We really need to stop letting this false narrative spread that pulling money out of your business is inherently illegal.

Running a business is a living, breathing organism. Sometimes you have to inject your own capital back in; other times, you legitimately need to pull some cash out just to keep the lights on—and that's perfectly legal. There are times you'll pay your taxes right on schedule, and times you won't because you had to prioritize making sure your employees actually get their paychecks. Sometimes you're dumping everything into working capital while everyone else is waiting on you... it's messy.
Being terrified of some government delinquency registry is just a stupid practice pushed by "experts" who have never actually created value in their lives and clearly don't understand how real-world entrepreneurship works.

Business isn't some dry, academic theory; it's gritty, hands-on work. It requires agility, resourcefulness, and pure grit. We should be encouraging those traits in people—because without entrepreneurs, this whole country might as well declare bankruptcy tomorrow.
Just remember: business owners work harder than their employees.
Anyone telling you otherwise is either lying or just plain ignorant.

Bottom line: if a new entrepreneur can benefit from some solid advice, a clever maneuver, or a legitimate tip—provided it's all legal—don't just jump in and delete it.
When you do that, you're doing a massive disservice to all of us.
Don't fall for the media's anti-business crusade.
Carol Price4 Carol Price4 Regular
380 messages
joined Nov 2019
#10 ·
Casey Moore3 said:I honestly have no idea what kind of vendettas you're talking about.

I started this thread with nothing but good intentions, not to incite any criminal activity.
If people think we're encouraging crime here, then they shouldn't be part of this community in the first place.
There’s really no need to dig up old grievances either.

What bothers me is that this was handled without any warning or explanation.
Furthermore, I don't believe there was any necessity for such an action at all.
I've been active on various international forums for years, and I have never once seen a thread deleted like this without prior notice.

Let things stay as they are now. But please, take this as a lesson learned.

You can't moderate a conversation through force—at least, not always.

Anyway, take care.

I totally get that you meant well, but just imagine if a hundred people read your suggestions and how you're doing things... if you had phrased those questions a bit more carefully, people would actually see where you're coming from.

Then someone else jumps in and builds on your idea by saying, "Oh, I lower my sales tax by buying invoices from a shell company related to my business," or someone else drops a tip about moving items into transit accounts and using offshore processors in Panama—then a third person chimes in saying, "I pull cash out by paying monthly stipends to ten college students..." and so on and so forth.$33

And just like that, we end up with a thread full of info that could land some people in serious hot water because of the way these ideas were shared.

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