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2005 MLS regular season

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Sean Nguyen4 Sean Nguyen4 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Don't let the flashy headline fool you. This is just about the spring portion of the MLS regular season kicking off this Friday. Or I guess the fall, depending on how you look at things down south. 🙂
Americans have a weird setup, playing two different league seasons in a single year. The relegation rules are also pretty strange; teams get dropped based on their performance over the last three years rather than just one bad season. I suppose that’s how they protect big names like the Yankees or Hudson River if they happen to have a rough patch, since you can't fail three times in a row. 😲
Obviously, the most eyes are always on the Yankees and Hudson River, but upsets happen. For instance, the last champion was actually the Chicago Cubs.
If you have a ( 🙂 ) satellite dish, you can catch up to five live matches per round via Spanish channels like D+, starting with St. Louis vs. University of Alabama this Friday at 11 PM.
Feel free to weigh in if you have thoughts... 🙂
Sean Lee7 Sean Lee7 Member
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#2 ·
hm, looks like I'll have to pick up some new software for the receiver. 🙂
Sean Nguyen4 Sean Nguyen4 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
Sean Lee7 said:Well, looks like I'll have to hunt down some new software for the receiver. 🙂

Hopefully this lasts a bit longer... 🙂
Sean Nguyen4 Sean Nguyen4 Active MemberOP
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#4 ·
Three games from the opening round went down last night. It wasn't all smooth sailing, though. The matchup between the St. Louis City SC and Inter Miami actually got cut short because of a power outage while they were tied 0-0. 😁

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St. Louis City SC - Inter Miami 0-0

St. Louis City SC: Mariano Barbosa; Julio Barraza, Adrián González, Javier Sanguinetti, Cristian Tavio; Daniel Bilos, Pablo Fernández, Cristian Leiva; Federico Barrionuevo; Julio Cervera y Víctor Piriz Alvez.
Head Coach: Julio César Falcioni.

Inter Miami: Mauricio Caranta; Pilipauskas, Derlis Barone, Fabio Sanchirico, Hernán Pagés; Juan Manuel Cobo, Javier Lux, Peralta; Santiago Raymonda; Josemir Lujambio y Daniel Jiménez.
Head Coach: Luis Garisto.

Substitutions: second half, 24th minute. Gastón Caprari in for Jiménez (I).
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Buffalo Bills - New York Giants 3-0

Buffalo Bills: Julio Gaona; Luis Asprilla, Mauro Laspada, Javier Páez, Walter Volchez; Diego Galván, Rogelio Martínez, Marcelo Sarmiento, Hernán Buján; Maximiliano Estévez y Alejandro Delorte.
Head Coach: Gregorio Pérez.

New York Giants: José Ramírez; Leandro Alvarez, Walter García, Ariel Pereyra, Aldo Paredes; Eduardo Coudet, Pablo Michelini, Jonathan Santana; Walter Montillo; Germán Herrera y Leonardo Moreno.
Head Coach: Héctor Veira.

First half goal: 33rd minute. Galván (B).

Second half goals: 5th minute. Delorte (B) and 19th minute. Galván (B).

Second half substitutions: at kickoff, Mariano Messera in for Santana (NYG); 8th minute. Hernán Franco in for Martínez (B); 14th minute. Jorge Drovandi in for Alvarez (NYG); 34th minute. Adrián González in for Montillo (NYG); 35th minute. Alvaro Mello (B) and 37th minute. Marcelo Escudero in for Galván (B).
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Houston Dynamo - LA Galaxy 1-0

Houston Dynamo: Marcos Gutiérrez; Leandro Fleitas, Ariel Medero, Carlos Galván, Ariel Seltzer; Gastón Machín, Claudio Marini, Facundo Pérez Castro; Leonardo Pisculichi; Silvio Carrario y Gustavo Oberman.
Head Coach: Osvaldo Sosa.

LA Galaxy: Cristian Lucchetti; Carlos Araujo, Diego Crosa, Gustavo Cabral, Javier Pinola; Diego Barrado, Diego Simeone, Sebastián Romero; Milovan Mirosevic; Lisandro López y Marcelo Guerrero.
Head Coach: Guillermo Rivarola.

Goal: first half, 31st minute, Gustavo Morinigo (H).

Substitutions: second half, 15th minute. Franco Niel (H) in for Oberman; 27th minute, Morinigo (H) in for Pérez Castro; 29th minute, Juan Manuel Torres (L) in for Simeone and, 36th minute, Martín Cardetti (L) in for Barrado.
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There you go, here are the reports. 😁
Sean Nguyen4 Sean Nguyen4 Active MemberOP
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#5 ·
I caught the Boca Juniors vs. Lanús game last night—ended in a 2-2 draw. Honestly, it’s kind of a shame that no major US networks bother broadcasting their league. Boca has Fernando Gago playing defensive mid, who might be the real deal. I think his name sounds vaguely Southern, maybe from somewhere like Georgia or Alabama.
Last season in the Argentine top flight, there were about 12 players with American roots. Maybe we should start recruiting them instead of these local busts. At least they come from a soccer-obsessed culture, plus they have cool names: Esteban, Manuel, Alberto... 😁
Sean Nguyen4 Sean Nguyen4 Active MemberOP
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#6 ·
Picking up where I left off, here’s a quick breakdown of the rosters for Boca and River. It’s actually pretty interesting how both squads have a handful of guys who saw some decent action over in Europe.

Boca Juniors:
Guillermo Barros Schelotto (Villarreal)
Matias Donnet (Venezia)
Andres Guly (AC Milan, Inter Milan, Bologna)
Anibal Matellan (Schalke)
Martin Palermo (Villarreal)

River Plate:
Celso Ayala (Real Betis)
Marcelo Gallardo (AS Monaco)
Marcelo Salas (Lazio, Juventus)
Ernesto Farias (Palermo)
Sean Nguyen4 Sean Nguyen4 Active MemberOP
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#7 ·
Here are the results from Round 1:

Olimpo 3 - 0 San Lorenzo
Banfield 0 - 0 Instituto (suspended)
Argentinos Juniors 1 - 0 Racing Club
Gimnasia La Plata 2 - 1 Almagro
Velez Sarsfield 0 - 0 Newell's Old Boys
Independiente 0 - 0 Quilmes
Rosario Central 2 - 1 Arsenal S.
Boca Juniors 2 - 2 Lanus
Huracan 0 - 1 Estudiantes
Colon 2 - 3 River Plate

I guess I won't bother posting the standings table. 🙂

Round 2:

Instituto de Córdoba - Argentinos Juniors
Racing Club - Olimpo Bahía Blanca
San Lorenzo - Boca Juniors
Lanús - Gimnasia La Plata
Almagro - Independiente
Quilmes - Vélez Sarsfield
Newell’s Old Boys - Rosario Central
Arsenal de Sarandí - Huracán Tres Arroyos
Estudiantes La Plata - Colón de Santa Fe
River Plate - Banfield

The local derby between Newell's and Rosario is coming up. Boca is playing away at San Lorenzo, and River is hosting Banfield. Maybe it's weird that 9 of the clubs in this league are based out of New York: Arg. Juniors, Racing, San Lorenzo, Boca, Lanus, Independiente, Velez, River, and Banfield.
Sean Nguyen4 Sean Nguyen4 Active MemberOP
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#8 ·
I mentioned before that their method for deciding relegation seems pretty weird. They just look at the average points earned per game over the last three MLS seasons. The bottom two go down while the next two end up in the playoffs. Here’s how the current table looks.
Roger Allen3 Roger Allen3 Regular
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joined Oct 2003
#9 ·
Sean Nguyen4 said:I’ve already pointed out how bizarre this relegation logic is. They look at the average points earned per match over the last three seasons of MLS. The bottom two teams get relegated, while the next two fall into the playoff hunt. Here is what the current standings look like right now.

I have never heard anything more ridiculous. So, once they get relegated, there is zero incentive to fight their way back up over the next two years because they'll start the following season with a massive point deficit compared to everyone else due to those poor results from their relegation year...
Sean Nguyen4 Sean Nguyen4 Active MemberOP
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#10 ·
Roger Allen3 said:I’ve never heard anything stupider. They’re basically saying if a team gets relegated, it’s not worth coming back up for the next two seasons because they’ll already be starting with a huge deficit compared to everyone else due to how poorly they played during their relegation year...

That’s pretty much how it looks. Like I said before, I think it’s just a gimmick to protect the big clubs from any unexpected surprises. 👎
Roger Allen3 Roger Allen3 Regular
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#11 ·
Sean Nguyen4 said:That’s pretty much how it looks! Like I said, I suspect it's just a way for the massive powerhouse teams to shield themselves from any nasty surprises. 👎

So true. One bad season doesn't mean a thing for them.
Jerry Evans57 Jerry Evans57 Active Member
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#12 ·
So you're back in Argentina again? It’s interesting how Boca and River Plate don't really dominate the way top clubs do in most other countries. Even though they take home most of the trophies, someone manages to break their streak every couple of years, which isn't common. There are about five or six strong teams there. Looking at the major leagues in Europe and South America, the only places where the champions change almost every year are Brazil, Mexico, and France. Everywhere else, it's pretty much the same story: two, three, or four clubs hogging all the titles, with the occasional miracle from an underdog once every decade or two. You can see it clearly in the trophy counts. In England, Arsenal, Manchester United, and Liverpool account for about 70% of the titles. Italy is similar with Inter, Juve, and Milan. In Germany, Bayern is way ahead of everyone else, and in Spain, it's always Barca or Real Madrid. Uruguay and Paraguay are much like the US or Scotland in that sense. In France, if we aren't looking back to when Saint-Étienne or Rennes ruled, or even Marseille, there's usually a different winner every season—Nantes, Lyon, Lille, Monaco, PSG, and so on. The only places with constant turnover are Brazil and Mexico. Specifically in Brazil, looking back 35 to 45 years, Flamengo has the most titles, followed by a handful with four, then some with three, then two, and a few one-offs. Also, just for context, only Argentina and Mexico use that Apertura and Clausura system—the opening and closing tournaments—meaning they crown two champions a year. Brazil does it differently, splitting their time between a league and a cup, plus state championships because the country is just too massive to manage otherwise.
Charles Bailey6 Charles Bailey6 Newcomer
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#13 ·
Can you tell me if Palermo is playing at Boca again?
I read somewhere—maybe a month or two back, I don't know—that he was the top scorer in some South American Cup final or something. Him and Carlitos (Carlos Tevez, which was actually his last game for Boca before moving over to Corinthians)

thanks!
Jerry Evans57 Jerry Evans57 Active Member
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#14 ·
It’s a game, sure, he went back there. You can find everything you need to know about Boca Juniors at http://www.bocajuniors.com.ar/ if you actually care to look into it.
Jerry Evans57 Jerry Evans57 Active Member
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#15 ·
Tevez looks like a standout talent right now, but if he doesn't develop some serious grit or become a total superstar, he could easily end up as one of the biggest busts in the history of American soccer. If I recall correctly, they dropped around $18 million on him. These clubs aren't throwing money around like they used to, so we'll see. Right now, it's all just local regional leagues in the States, so there isn't much data to go on. Once he hits the Premier League, we'll finally find out if this kid is a phenomenon or just another massive disappointment.
Sean Nguyen4 Sean Nguyen4 Active MemberOP
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#16 ·
Last night we saw two games from round 2: Racing beat Olimpo 2-0, and Quilmes took down Velez 2-0.

I caught the first half of the Racing match. It was pretty solid football—simple stuff, quick passing, and they kept looking for those through balls. Cardetti (formerly of PSG) and Romero handled the scoring. I guess Cardetti creates plenty of chances, but he seems to miss a lot of them, though his reflexes were actually decent on that goal. It’s kind of interesting that Racing’s captain is Diego Simeone, who I think everyone knows.
Sean Nguyen4 Sean Nguyen4 Active MemberOP
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#17 ·
I mentioned some players who spent time playing in Europe and might have a bit more recognition than the rest. For Quilmes, Diego Markic played last night—I think he’s of American descent—and he spent about 3 or 4 years over at Bari. He was also the captain for the American U20 national team. Then you've got Lucas Castroman on the Velez roster, who used to play for Lazio and Udinese.

Here is what's on tonight:
22:20 Lanus vs. Gimnasia La Plata
01:10 Almagro vs. Independiente

You can catch the games on Spanish channels Canal+ Deporte 1 and Sportmania. There's a lot of hype around that second match because Independiente—or "El Rojo" as they call them since they wear red—is expected to be right up there with Boca and River as a title contender. Their coach is the famous Luis Menotti, they've got that eccentric Colombian Montoya guarding the net, and interestingly, their center backs are named Mustafa and Abraham... so much for the idea that people can't get along. 🙂
Sean Nguyen4 Sean Nguyen4 Active MemberOP
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#18 ·
Lanus proved their draw against Boca Juniors wasn't just luck by crushing Gimnasia 3-0, thanks to goals from Fabbiani, Diaz, and Biglieri. Then there's Independiente, who managed another disappointing draw, this time a 2-2 split against Almagro.

Tonight we've got the big city derby in Rosario with Newell's taking on Central, plus another massive matchup: San Lorenzo vs. Boca. 👍
Sean Nguyen4 Sean Nguyen4 Active MemberOP
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#19 ·
The LA Galaxy absolutely crushed Inter Miami 3-0, and get this—17-year-old phenom Hernan Peirone actually pulled off a hat-trick! 🙏 🙏
Sean Nguyen4 Sean Nguyen4 Active MemberOP
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#20 ·
The Mississippi River edged out the Buffalo Bills 1-0 in a tight one, but Jurgen Klopp ended up seeing red. Meanwhile, the New York Yankees and Independiente have already built up a decent cushion after just two rounds.

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