How Pringles uses its position to protect Klonka

Just to be clear right out of the gate—I’m not complaining about the ban

because, honestly, it just gave Michelle Evans an excuse to move my thread

Moved: How Pringles protects Klonka
Gerald Rivera17

over in the Appeals section.

But I wasn't actually filing a complaint at all

I was just pointing out how Michelle Evans is basically the one showing everyone that she's got Klomki's back

my post;

No grievances here, just stating the facts as they are...

though I could have easily brought up the mountain of complaints regarding Klonka's work that you see floating around here and in the Banned Corner

So, that leaves us with a question;

Michelle Evans, why are you doing all this?

You could have just listed the specific examples you feel weren't handled correctly by moderation. That should have been its own separate thread—one focused on her moderation style regarding politics and your own experience... Instead, you're quoting the exact post I issued a warning for and deciding for yourself what the topic is about Klonka.

To you, my warning is an attempt to protect Klonka. To me, it was simply maintaining order on this forum according to the rules.

I already provided instructions on how to file an appeal regarding Klonka's moderation. Feel free to start one.

Best regards!

EDIT: My apologies. Just to clarify your comment here:

I could have cited the massive amount of complaints regarding Klonka's work seen here and in the Banned Corner.

You shouldn't cite other people's grievances. Those complaints have already been addressed and they concern someone else. If you have concerns about something unresolved, something affecting you personally, or recurring behavior on the forums you participate in, then open a new thread and provide the links. We don't recycle threads that have already been closed or settled.

Gerald Rivera17 said:Just to be clear right off the bat, I'm not actually complaining about getting a warning

So if you aren't complaining about the warning, what exactly are you pushing back against? If the only example you've got is your own strike—which you aren't even whining about, by the way—and it was clearly explained to you, then it doesn't really work as evidence for your claim that someone is being protected.

rustydrifter10 said:What exactly are you complaining about if it isn't just a cardboard box? I mean... if the only example you’ve got is your own box—one that you don't even complain about because the reasoning behind it was already explained to you—then it really shouldn't be used as some kind of basis to claim that someone else is being protected...

I sent you two messages—the first one right after my thread "adios division" got nuked, and the second one just today...

Well, if people want to go out of their way to defend Klonka... well, they can try... though it’s hard to ignore that none of the complaints against her work actually hold any water...

Example;

Divizija posted about why he’s leaving F—and honestly, he gave Klonka a much-needed reality check. After reading that, I ended up opening a whole new thread titled "Adios, Divizija," just reminiscing about that old era... you know, the one where he spent ten years posting on Politics. I mostly stay away from that section because of Klonka anyway—I didn't even bother commenting on my last post there after they deleted it for no reason...

A few hours later and both my thread and the division's topic have been wiped clean... If the division thought I was being offensive, fine, that’s one thing—but then why go ahead and delete mine? It didn't offend anyone... or at least, I didn't think it did...

It all lines up perfectly with that whole mess involving the opening of the ŽK thread—you know, the one where they started tearing into Klonka... plus those posts she made that somehow didn't result in any actual sanctions... turns out everything is connected...

Well, I laid out that example of her work—or rather, her lack thereof, or just the general mess she makes—and ended up losing 30 points from Michelle Evans because apparently, I was "mixing topics"... which is one way to look at it, I guess. If I actually put in any real effort, I could probably give you a list of ten other posts that should be sanctioned for the exact same reasons, yet they aren't...

And when I finally went ahead and opened that thread about how Michelle Evans protects Klonka... she just goes and pivots the whole thing over to a complaint about cardboard boxes... 🤦

I’m not exactly complaining about the cardboard... I’ve got some grievances regarding how things are being handled by Klonko and Prigles... just feels like we aren't getting anywhere...

Just wanted to vent a bit about my thread getting nuked over on PŽK... goodbye, division...

i I’m honestly a bit bummed about that farewell post from the division getting scrubbed... just feels a little sudden—it's a shame when things get wiped like that without much notice...Well, he's been banned... so he can't really do anything about it now...

Gerald Rivera17 said:After just a few hours, both the division's thread and my own have been wiped. If the division was being offensive, fine, but why delete mine when I didn't insult anyone?...

It all lined up right when I opened that thread regarding ŽK and her criticism of Klonka—plus those posts of hers that somehow never get flagged.

I pointed out examples of her work—or lack thereof—and ended up getting 30 points from Prigles for "mixing topics." If I actually put in some effort, I could list dozens of posts that should be sanctioned for the exact same reasons they aren't.

And when I started a thread about how Prigles protects Klonka, she just moved it over to Appeals... 🤦

I'm not complaining about the warnings, I'm complaining about the way Klonka and Prigles operate.

I'm frustrated that my thread on PŽK was deleted, goodbye division...

And I'm upset my farewell post to the division was removed, but since he's banned, he can't even respond.

What work of yours? Unless you mean this deserved warning. Moving a post because it isn't clear what you're trying to say? Come on, please. We don't have time for these antics. You can go throw your tantrums at your own people instead.

Stop making accusations based on pure guesswork. You're blaming a moderator who has nothing to do with deleting those two threads on this forum— feel free to check your own flagged post if you can't remember . You claim you mostly stepped away from politics for Klonka, yet she has zero warnings and only two deleted posts—one in January and one in February.

Let’s make a deal, specifically to find a constructive way to handle actual moderation issues on this forum:
The next time you file an appeal without providing links, where you just hurl accusations at a moderator based on your assumptions—especially regarding who deleted what—I will personally issue you a three-day ban. Don't bother complaining to the corner for banned users if that happens. Consider this your only warning.

Regarding someone else's deleted thread on KzB, that's between them and the mods. But let me be clear: KzB isn't a place to vent rage. We never leave posts visible when they contain the kind of toxic nonsense seen in that deleted thread, where someone spent hours or days promising more insults unless a permanent ban was issued. That is strictly against the rules of this forum.

As for your farewell message, there are plenty of other ways to say goodbye. It’s obvious you know how to communicate elsewhere, seeing as you're aware you can't vent on KzB.

Best regards!