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Dealing with a lot: impacted/inflamed Apple, jaw pain, joint aches, and indigestion

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Patrick Lopez33 Patrick Lopez33 NewcomerOP
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joined Sep 2014
#1 ·
Folks, please forgive the long-winded post ahead of time.

Basically, my entire ordeal started back at the beginning of this year. It all kicked off with these constant, swollen lymph nodes in my neck. I’d take a round of antibiotics, things would settle down, and then we’d be right back where we started. Then, the pain in my lower jaw on the right side started—and let me tell you, it was absolutely agonizing. A few months later (thanks to some rather indifferent doctors), it turns out the culprit is an impacted Apple. Because everything has been such a mess, the tooth managed to partially break through, but... for the last month, every single joint in my body has been aching; I feel completely numb and twitchy. One minute I'm burning up, the next I'm freezing. Shoulders, hands, hips—everything. I actually went to the ER, but they basically sent me packing because I wasn't "life-threateningly" ill. The doctor there suggested I just stick to caffeine and ibuprofen. So, I did, and now I’m dealing with this: a sensation like a searing burn behind my breastbone, almost like heartburn, but it isn't. It feels exactly like fire is traveling up my throat and scorching me. It’s calmed down slightly, thank God. But keep in mind—my joints are hurting constantly; they aren't swollen, but the throbbing just won't quit. For about a week, I had this sharp, stabbing pain under my left ribs, which is easing up a bit now that I’m on Klavocin. I also get this strange feeling in my chest, like little lumps, though I can't be sure. Maybe I've just lost my mind and I'm imagining it. My dentist prescribed the Klavocin because, as you might have guessed, my Apple has become abscessed. In the meantime, I had a full blood panel done—perfect. I also ran tests for rheumatic markers (those came back negative), though my CRP is slightly elevated. The limit is 10, and I’m sitting at 12. I traveled to Indianapolis to see the maxillofacial specialists at the Mayo Clinic, but my appointment isn't until July 2nd... I should mention that out of everything happening, the damn tooth is actually the least painful part. Does anyone have any idea what's going on? Is it truly possible for an Apple to wreck my entire system like this, or am I looking at something much more serious? I haven't lost weight, I'm eating like there's no tomorrow, and I'm not exhausted—it's just that everything hurts. Please, don't hold back on suggestions, but I beg you—do not just tell me to go to the doctor. I have been trying to do exactly that, but no one is taking me seriously. I'm not a hypochondriac; I haven't been to a doctor for anything in YEARS before this. Thanks 😢

ps. The Apple actually displaced my temporomandibular joint—essentially caused a luxation.
I’ve also tested negative for HIV and hepatitis. I honestly don't know what to do anymore.
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
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#2 ·
That burning sensation climbing up behind your breastbone sounds like textbook acid reflux. You’re likely dealing with GERD or gastroesophageal reflux. We actually have an entire dedicated thread on this forum covering that specific misery. Honestly, it might be worth seeing a gastroenterologist to get a proper exam and check if you’ve got a *Helicobacter pylori* infection lurking in there. Now, GERD itself isn't going to cause issues with your wisdom teeth or joint pain, but a bacterial infection stemming from that damn wisdom tooth could trigger inflammatory arthritis in your joints. That is a nasty way to go because it can permanently wreck your cartilage, much like how you can find more info here—go pester your doctor and make sure they consider this possibility!
Either way, that wisdom tooth needs to come out ASAP.
Kevin Garcia12 Kevin Garcia12 Active Member
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joined Jun 2010
#3 ·
GERD symptoms can sometimes mimic what you're feeling from taking too much Advil or Motrin, and honestly, there’s a chance a tooth infection is throwing everything out of whack here—it’s a bit of a long shot, but if your immune system is feeling sluggish right now, anything is on the table. Unfortunately, dental issues can manifest in some pretty scary ways; if you’ve got a fever and the chills alongside those aching joints after having dental work, we aren't just talking about simple pain anymore... we could be looking at reactive arthritis or even something as serious as bacterial endocarditis. Plus, there's always the risk of toxicity if you've been overdoing it with painkillers like Advil or similar stuff... At the end of the day, I can't give you a definitive answer, but that Apple molar absolutely has to come out. And frankly, if you're in this much pain and couldn't get seen immediately, they should have at least given you a decent analgesic to manage it. As for the joint dislocation—that really shouldn't have happened. Pain can definitely radiate toward the joint, but if it's actually dislocated, you might be dealing with inflammation within the joint itself. Usually, with the TMJ, it doesn't show up as a full-on dislocation, but rather as trismus, where you just can't open your mouth... An infection from a tooth can spread systemically through your bloodstream or cause local swelling in the facial spaces. There are so many different things linked to dental health, and while most of them are incredibly rare, they would almost certainly show up on a standard blood test...
Patrick Lopez33 Patrick Lopez33 NewcomerOP
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#4 ·
Angela Wright said:That burning sensation climbing up behind your sternum sounds like classic reflux. You’re likely dealing with GERD or gastroesophageal reflux. We actually have an entire dedicated thread on the forum covering this specific misery. Honestly, it might not be a bad idea to see a gastroenterologist for a full workup to rule out things like H. pylori. Now, GERD itself isn't linked to your wisdom tooth or joint pain, but if you have a bacterial infection stemming from that damn wisdom tooth, that could absolutely trigger inflammatory arthritis, which is nasty business because it can permanently wreck your cartilage. Check out the details here and make sure to press your doctor to look into this!
In any case, that wisdom tooth needs to come out ASAP.

Given how much caffeine and high-octane energy drinks I’ve been slamming lately, GERD wouldn't even be a surprise. I know I shouldn't be loading up on that stuff, but honestly, I feel like I physically cannot function without those—dare I say—liquid garbage fuels. So, what am I supposed to ask for? Am I asking them to run throat and nasal swabs or what? How do they actually detect bacteria; doesn't it show up on a standard CBC? My CRP level was at 197, while 200 is the threshold—I forget the exact name of the test, it’s usually done alongside the inflammation markers. How did my doctor not suspect a bacterial issue? Once, I tried Googling my symptoms and, good grief, it felt like I was reading a catalog of every cancer known to man. And please, try to stay sane when something else starts aching every single day. 🙂 As for the wisdom tooth, they’re estimating the surgery won't happen until October. I seriously don't think I can hold out that long; I'm going to collapse. Between the stress and work, it's too much. Does anyone know where I can get this procedure done privately in Indianapolis? Also, wouldn't Klavocin clear up a bacterial infection? Wouldn't that do the trick? Sorry for venting, I really am, but I'm losing my mind here and I feel like I have no one to turn to since everyone in this city seems completely checked out!
Patrick Lopez33 Patrick Lopez33 NewcomerOP
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#5 ·
Kevin Garcia12 said:The symptoms of GERD can sometimes mimic what you're feeling, and honestly, an infection in the tooth could be causing all this trouble too—it’s a bit of a long shot, but if your immune system is currently running low, it's definitely on the table. Unfortunately, dental issues can manifest in some pretty scary ways; if you start running a fever or getting the chills along with joint pain following those dental procedures, we aren't just talking about reactive arthritis—we have to consider the possibility of bacterial endocarditis. There’s also the factor of toxicity from overusing things like Advil or similar NSAIDs if you've been leaning on them heavily... At any rate, I can't give you a definitive answer, but that Apple tooth absolutely has to come out. If you're in enough pain that you can't sleep and you haven't been seen immediately, you really should have been prescribed a more adequate analgesic. As for the dislocation of the joint—that shouldn't have happened. While pain can certainly radiate toward the joint, if the joint is actually dislocated, there might be inflammation right there in the joint itself. Usually, with the temporomandibular joint, it doesn't present as a dislocation so much as trismus, where you just can't open your mouth. An infection from a tooth can spread systemically through the bloodstream or via local swelling through the facial spaces. There are plenty of different complications tied to dental work, and while they are fortunately quite rare, they would typically show up in your blood work...

So far, there hasn't been any fever or shivering. I did run a temperature once, but that was back when I was dealing with a brutal cold after getting caught in the rain three days in a row. 😢
Kevin Garcia12 Kevin Garcia12 Active Member
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joined Jun 2010
#6 ·
1. Sure, Klavocin kills bacteria, but let's get real—if you've got an abscess hiding somewhere in your body without the pus being drained and that infected wall actually being cleared out, an antibiotic isn't going to wipe it out...

2. Those reactive arthritis syndromes can hang around for a month or two even after the initial infection has passed, and honestly, they aren't always easy to spot using just your standard, run-of-the-mill lab tests...

3. If you're slamming acetylsalicylic acid and all those other stuff—like Ibuprofen, Advil, or whatever else—stomach issues aren't just a possibility, they're practically a guarantee, especially if you're mixing high doses of different meds. If the pain is truly that intense, you should have been prescribed an opioid-based analgesic to take alongside the regular stuff, because otherwise... I know exactly how you feel since I went through the same thing myself, and I ended up having to go to a private clinic on Christmas Eve just to get it surgically removed because nothing else was touching the pain...

4. That needs to be cleared out as soon as possible, but unfortunately, I have no clue who's working at the hospital right now, so I really can't help you with that part... 🤷
Patrick Lopez33 Patrick Lopez33 NewcomerOP
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joined Sep 2014
#7 ·
Kevin Garcia12 said:1. Sure, Klavocin kills bacteria—but if you’ve got an abscess somewhere in your body where the pus isn't being drained and the wall isn't being broken down, antibiotics aren't going to wipe it out...

2. Reactive arthritis syndromes can linger for a month or two after the initial infection clears, and they don't always show up on standard lab tests...

3. If you're pounding acetylsalicylic acid and similar stuff—Advil, Aleve, Motrin, whatever—stomach issues aren't just possible, they're practically a given, especially if you're mixing high doses of different meds. Honestly, if the pain was that intense, you should have been prescribed an opioid alongside the regular stuff; I know from experience because I dealt with the exact same thing, and one Christmas Eve I ended up going to a private clinic just to have them drain it because nothing else worked...

4. That needs to come out ASAP, but unfortunately, I have no clue who's working at the clinic there, so I really can't help you with that part... 🤷

The thing is, my tooth hurts the least; most of the time I don't even notice it (except when I'm eating, obviously). It's fine until that impulse to erupt kicks in, then it's pure torture. The real issue is the joint pain—that's what's becoming unbearable. Whatever, I'm going to insist on getting bacterial testing, and if anyone has any ideas, please let me know. I'll pester my doctor for five days straight if I have to; if she wants to refer me somewhere, let her do it. 🙂
velvetmoose9 velvetmoose9 Active Member
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joined Apr 2020
#8 ·
1. You really need to see an oral surgeon or a maxillofacial specialist to get that wisdom tooth pulled. Make sure they prescribe a solid antibiotic, like Clindamycin 600mg, twice a day.

2. Also, you should probably have a direct conversation with your primary care doctor. Ask them specifically about antibiotic prophylaxis for things like bacterial endocarditis, rheumatic arthritis, or glomerulonephritis—basically any kind of "-itis"—since there's a pretty high chance we're dealing with a bacterial infection here.

3. To speed things up, I'd suggest getting a digital panoramic X-ray done before your actual appointment. It makes the diagnostic part way easier and helps the surgeon move faster if they decide you need to go under.

4. Just keep me posted on how everything goes, okay? 😉
Patrick Lopez33 Patrick Lopez33 NewcomerOP
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#9 ·
I'm just here to observe and contribute where it makes sense. kaže:
If you're looking at getting a wisdom tooth pulled, I’d suggest heading to either an oral surgeon or a maxillofacial specialist rather than just a general dentist. You definitely want someone who handles these kinds of extractions regularly. Once the procedure is done, make sure you get a solid prescription for antibiotics—something like Clindamycin 600mg, taken twice a day—to keep any infection at bay while you heal.

You really need to sit down with your primary doctor and be incredibly direct about this. Don't just hint at it—lay it all out there. You should be asking her specifically about antibiotic prophylaxis to prevent potential bacterial endocarditis, rheumatic arthritis, glomerulonephritis, and any other "itis" complications that might arise, especially since you’re looking at a very high probability of an active bacterial infection. It’s better to be overly thorough now than to leave anything to chance.

You really need to speed things up here—before you even get to the actual exam, I’d suggest getting at least a digital scan from an orthodontist. It would make the whole diagnostic process a lot smoother and significantly cut down the time needed if any surgical intervention ends up being necessary.

Keep us posted on how everything is unfolding. 😉

So, I walk into my doctor’s office and flat-out tell her that I suspect bacterial endocarditis. What specific tests should I be demanding if she tries to brush me off again? Because let’s be honest, she does this constantly—acting like everything is perfectly fine when it clearly isn't. It honestly feels like there's some kind of incentive for her to avoid sending me in for actual testing. 😲 I have an orthodontist.
velvetmoose9 velvetmoose9 Active Member
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#10 ·
-citiraj pod 2. iza dvotočke upit.
It couldn't be any more obvious than that.

3a. Gastroprotection (PPIs, like pantoprazole...)
Patrick Lopez33 Patrick Lopez33 NewcomerOP
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#11 ·
velvetmoose9 said:-just asking under point 2 after the colon.
It couldn't be any clearer.

3a. Gastroprotection (PPIs, e.g., pantoprazole...)

I was at the doctor's today, and she explained it just like that—honestly, the woman looked genuinely spooked. She ended up referring me to an infectious disease specialist over in St. Louis. They didn't even bother with blood work or anything because I literally just finished my course of Klavocin yesterday. According to their take, that infection has likely cleared out, and now my body just needs some downtime to recover, but they can't confirm a thing without seeing a full blood panel. As a precaution, they put me on Sumamed (some generic brand) for three days. After that, I’m supposed to head back this coming Monday to finally get my blood drawn. In the meantime, I managed to squeeze in a private appointment with my dentist, Dr. Siber. Fingers crossed 🙂 I really hope they aren't just blowing me off?
Patrick Lopez33 Patrick Lopez33 NewcomerOP
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#12 ·
Does anyone have any advice or maybe a fresh idea? I’m on day two of this flu, and while things are looking up slightly, I’ve still got this nagging ache right under my ribs... My joints are starting to loosen up just a little bit, though.
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
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#13 ·
Patrick Lopez33 said:Anyone got any advice or ideas? Today is day two of the antibiotics. I'm feeling slightly better, but there's still this nagging pain right under my ribs... My joints are starting to loosen up a bit, though.

Go grab some high-potency probiotics—you can find them at places like Whole Foods—because those antibiotics are just going to make your reflux issues even worse. Taking some Pepcid might help ease things too.
Patrick Lopez33 Patrick Lopez33 NewcomerOP
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joined Sep 2014
#14 ·
It’s been a while since I last checked in here, so I thought I’d give you all an update. So, Bayer actually managed to clear up those joint issues for about two weeks, only for them to resurface last night—though thankfully they're pretty mild right now. They’re still lingering, but it’s completely manageable. FOR NOW.

I just got back from having my wisdom tooth pulled by Dr. Pfizer about an hour ago, and honestly, I can't say enough good things about him and his assistant. 🙂

As for the stomach stuff, I’ve been on Nexium for the last ten days, and it’s worked wonders; the irritation has settled down, along with that burning sensation under my ribs. The only downside is that I’ve become incredibly "gassy," which is both painful and honestly a bit ridiculous if you think about it. 😁
I went in for an abdominal ultrasound, and everything came back looking perfect. I’m planning to head back to my doctor tomorrow or the day after to finally get some bacteriological tests and a CBC done (I didn't want to push my luck earlier because the antibiotics were still masking everything). I’ll probably ask her to schedule an endoscopy as well.

So, here is the thing. Does anyone have any suggestions? I’m a little worried that those joint pains might come crashing back at me, so I was wondering if there are any other tests I should insist on getting done beyond what I've already mentioned?

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