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Hey, I have a question for the admins regarding the forum rules...
Since I couldn't find anything about this in the guidelines, I figured I'd ask here. I haven't noticed anyone being told they can't post in certain threads before... like, women post in the men's sections and guys post in the women's sections. It seems like that goes for all the other subforums and threads I've read or participated in.
Is there actually a rule that bans specific groups of people or individuals from posting on certain topics?
It’s about the US tourism subforum, specifically the thread: "Where to advertise private rentals online?"
That whole thread is basically just anything and everything*, with like 80% of the posts being more or less off-topic. My post—where I mentioned things like Booking.com, deposits, and answered a question from this post—was deleted. It wasn't deleted for being off-topic, because if it were, the original question would have been wiped too (but it's still there)... it was removed with Kajperinja, ako imas pitanja, imas temu Offtopic teme American turizam. Ova je tema prvenstveno namijenjena iznajmljivacima i reklamiranju na netu, kako bi si oni uzajamno savjetovali i pomagali. Cak i ja, kao moderator tu upadam iznimno rijetko.']this explanation:
The post was deleted even though it wasn't off-topic (I was just trying to help a host answer their own question).... it happened solely because I was posting on a thread for hosts when I am not one myself. Apparently, hosts are only allowed to help and talk to other hosts. Is that really okay? Is that an actual forum rule or just someone being arbitrary?
In the follow-up, I was told I can only discuss, ask, or answer things on the "Offtopic topic US tourism" thread, which, according to the first post, is intended for off-topic chatter—you know, stuff like politics or history. So, if someone asks a question in the advertising thread, I'm not allowed to answer them there? I have to go to the off-topic section instead because I'm not a rental host? That feels incredibly complicated, impractical, and honestly, unfair and discriminatory.
Even another user was surprised by this and wrote:
That was the response she got
:
...so once again, it’s confirmed: my post was wiped just because I’m not a host, and that's why I'm getting kicked out of the thread. Honestly, there wasn't even a warning or a strike, just a random post written in black font. I'm not even complaining, really; I'm just asking—are the rules actually set up so that on some threads anyone can talk about anything, total offtopic stuff, alongside the moderator... while someone else isn't allowed to say even what the topic is about just because they don't fit into a specific category? 😕
Are people actually allowed to post in the "Where to advertise private rentals online" thread (and other US tourism threads) or is it restricted to certain people, like just hosts, or can anyone chime in? 🤷
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everything under the sun*
To keep the main thread clean, I'm dumping all the "everything under the sun" stuff here.
The thread is packed with countless posts that might have a loose connection to US tourism, but have nothing to do with the actual title—you know, where to advertise... There are tons of them, mostly, and a good chunk of them were written by the moderator themselves.
People have talked about:
Google issues, sales tax, guest personalities, which types of guests are trending, occupancy rates, earnings, invoicing, the age of landlords, registering guests, towels, linens, mattress protectors, bank accounts, meeting up for coffee... then back to how much everyone earned and how many units they have, pricing tactics, picking dinner spots, forum drama, spreading wrong info about sales tax, bragging about bookings, inquiry numbers, drafting software, arguments and insults from people who think they got scammed because they didn't read the fine print in the terms... worrying about potential audits via the IRS, how much money you can actually live on, if you can survive on US tourism alone... real estate prices and apartment swaps, taxes, legalizing properties, inspections, photographing rentals, income streams, renting boats, haggling, local mayors, logging every single booking... and again and again... then discussions on time-sharing, whining about low inquiries, more long-winded sagas about sales tax, unrest in Canada, bicycles, how to dodge commission fees, reviewing the quality of advertising sites from a guest's perspective, rental insurance, dog-friendly beaches, Russian visas, travel agency laws, those big-shot charter companies making bank, dogs, paying tourism fees, traffic jams, bus lines, the situation in Ukraine, massive payouts, occupancy days in cities like Budapest or Rome, housing costs, foreigners buying beachfront property, management software, the number of rental units in Los Angeles, pricing, non-all-inclusive options, dropping rates, whether renting is worth it, scams involving fake inquiries, weird emails, how to extend the season, PayPal, social status based on what you can afford, travel stories, minimum stay requirements, flights to LAX, and comparing booking numbers from last season to this one... every single month, registering stays for friends and family, and then once again, a whole lot about sales tax, and then...It’s pretty wild how this thread keeps drifting away from the actual topic (check page 159), between random guest comments that clearly weren't deleted or kicked, more talk about sales tax, then jumping to utility bills in NYC versus London, people snooping through other rentals just to share feedback, debating the number of vacation units in Miami, where everyone is traveling and what they're spending, which part of Miami is the best, which neighborhood tourists love, what kind of water heater to buy, and all the whining about a bad upcoming season because bookings are down... then there's the price hikes for Ultra, reports on new hosts in Miami, the bus station in New Orleans, where guests come from and what they do here, dental tourism, more sales tax, visa issues for travelers from Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, or Mexico, back to tax IDs, swimming pools and subsidies, more sales tax, map placements for advertisers, guest reviews, comparing US tourism to Greece, prices in Crete versus Tisno... flight costs to Greece, accounting fees, why Miami is so expensive, hunting for rentals, the lack of things to do... obviously... in Miami, where foreigners go, and picking summer deals in Greece, Spain, Turkey, etc.
And after all that... we only get a couple of warnings, two visible penalties... and one person getting kicked off the thread.
Since I couldn't find anything about this in the guidelines, I figured I'd ask here. I haven't noticed anyone being told they can't post in certain threads before... like, women post in the men's sections and guys post in the women's sections. It seems like that goes for all the other subforums and threads I've read or participated in.
Is there actually a rule that bans specific groups of people or individuals from posting on certain topics?
It’s about the US tourism subforum, specifically the thread: "Where to advertise private rentals online?"
That whole thread is basically just anything and everything*, with like 80% of the posts being more or less off-topic. My post—where I mentioned things like Booking.com, deposits, and answered a question from this post—was deleted. It wasn't deleted for being off-topic, because if it were, the original question would have been wiped too (but it's still there)... it was removed with Kajperinja, ako imas pitanja, imas temu Offtopic teme American turizam. Ova je tema prvenstveno namijenjena iznajmljivacima i reklamiranju na netu, kako bi si oni uzajamno savjetovali i pomagali. Cak i ja, kao moderator tu upadam iznimno rijetko.']this explanation:
Sandra Brown18 said:Rachel Jones8, if you have questions, use the offtopic topic US tourism thread.
This thread is primarily meant for rental hosts and online advertising, so they can help each other out and share advice.
Even I, as a moderator, only step in extremely rarely.
The post was deleted even though it wasn't off-topic (I was just trying to help a host answer their own question).... it happened solely because I was posting on a thread for hosts when I am not one myself. Apparently, hosts are only allowed to help and talk to other hosts. Is that really okay? Is that an actual forum rule or just someone being arbitrary?
In the follow-up, I was told I can only discuss, ask, or answer things on the "Offtopic topic US tourism" thread, which, according to the first post, is intended for off-topic chatter—you know, stuff like politics or history. So, if someone asks a question in the advertising thread, I'm not allowed to answer them there? I have to go to the off-topic section instead because I'm not a rental host? That feels incredibly complicated, impractical, and honestly, unfair and discriminatory.
Even another user was surprised by this and wrote:
rokoo said:It isn't really off-topic since it's about online advertising. There's been talk here about pricing, furniture, cancellations, guests, nationalities, and definitely portals used for ads.
I don't get when something counts as off-topic and when it doesn't.
That was the response she got
:
Sandra Brown18 said:Kajperinja isn't a rental host—everyone else in this thread is. Except me, obviously😁. Don't sweat it, she still gets great answers to her questions over in the offtopic topic US tourism.
...so once again, it’s confirmed: my post was wiped just because I’m not a host, and that's why I'm getting kicked out of the thread. Honestly, there wasn't even a warning or a strike, just a random post written in black font. I'm not even complaining, really; I'm just asking—are the rules actually set up so that on some threads anyone can talk about anything, total offtopic stuff, alongside the moderator... while someone else isn't allowed to say even what the topic is about just because they don't fit into a specific category? 😕
Are people actually allowed to post in the "Where to advertise private rentals online" thread (and other US tourism threads) or is it restricted to certain people, like just hosts, or can anyone chime in? 🤷
__________________________________________________ __
everything under the sun*
To keep the main thread clean, I'm dumping all the "everything under the sun" stuff here.
The thread is packed with countless posts that might have a loose connection to US tourism, but have nothing to do with the actual title—you know, where to advertise... There are tons of them, mostly, and a good chunk of them were written by the moderator themselves.
People have talked about:
Google issues, sales tax, guest personalities, which types of guests are trending, occupancy rates, earnings, invoicing, the age of landlords, registering guests, towels, linens, mattress protectors, bank accounts, meeting up for coffee... then back to how much everyone earned and how many units they have, pricing tactics, picking dinner spots, forum drama, spreading wrong info about sales tax, bragging about bookings, inquiry numbers, drafting software, arguments and insults from people who think they got scammed because they didn't read the fine print in the terms... worrying about potential audits via the IRS, how much money you can actually live on, if you can survive on US tourism alone... real estate prices and apartment swaps, taxes, legalizing properties, inspections, photographing rentals, income streams, renting boats, haggling, local mayors, logging every single booking... and again and again... then discussions on time-sharing, whining about low inquiries, more long-winded sagas about sales tax, unrest in Canada, bicycles, how to dodge commission fees, reviewing the quality of advertising sites from a guest's perspective, rental insurance, dog-friendly beaches, Russian visas, travel agency laws, those big-shot charter companies making bank, dogs, paying tourism fees, traffic jams, bus lines, the situation in Ukraine, massive payouts, occupancy days in cities like Budapest or Rome, housing costs, foreigners buying beachfront property, management software, the number of rental units in Los Angeles, pricing, non-all-inclusive options, dropping rates, whether renting is worth it, scams involving fake inquiries, weird emails, how to extend the season, PayPal, social status based on what you can afford, travel stories, minimum stay requirements, flights to LAX, and comparing booking numbers from last season to this one... every single month, registering stays for friends and family, and then once again, a whole lot about sales tax, and then...It’s pretty wild how this thread keeps drifting away from the actual topic (check page 159), between random guest comments that clearly weren't deleted or kicked, more talk about sales tax, then jumping to utility bills in NYC versus London, people snooping through other rentals just to share feedback, debating the number of vacation units in Miami, where everyone is traveling and what they're spending, which part of Miami is the best, which neighborhood tourists love, what kind of water heater to buy, and all the whining about a bad upcoming season because bookings are down... then there's the price hikes for Ultra, reports on new hosts in Miami, the bus station in New Orleans, where guests come from and what they do here, dental tourism, more sales tax, visa issues for travelers from Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, or Mexico, back to tax IDs, swimming pools and subsidies, more sales tax, map placements for advertisers, guest reviews, comparing US tourism to Greece, prices in Crete versus Tisno... flight costs to Greece, accounting fees, why Miami is so expensive, hunting for rentals, the lack of things to do... obviously... in Miami, where foreigners go, and picking summer deals in Greece, Spain, Turkey, etc.
And after all that... we only get a couple of warnings, two visible penalties... and one person getting kicked off the thread.