Bad Boys - Part IV

Dennis Davis97 said:Honestly, I'm just totally fed up with these people living abroad trying to dictate how we should handle our lives here... you guys aren't us, and frankly, you never will be...

I suppose I've seen quite a few games in my time... though I'm not entirely sure how many you've actually witnessed...

Dennis Davis97 said:It seems somewhat symptomatic, if you ask me, that the ones talking the most trash in the style of Peter Robinson21 are precisely those who rarely show up to the stadium. I mean, I don't know if anyone ever actually decided from the stands whether goals should be celebrated or not, but personally, soccer has just become distasteful to me over the last three years—that includes Mamić's management agency running all over the pitch...

The same logic applies to you, I guess... I don't know if things were officially decided, but they certainly happened, specifically involving that large group at the matches... just think back to Vienna or Razgrad... certain things there really left a bad taste in my mouth. If you truly believe those kinds of things are acceptable, then I have to wonder why some people even bother cheering for Dinamo anymore...

Peter Robinson21 said:Look, I’ve seen enough games in my life to know what I'm talking about... not sure how much experience you actually have...

The same goes for you... I don't know if things have changed, but there was some seriously shady stuff happening back in the day, especially during those big matches... just think back to Vienna or Razgrad... honestly, some of that stuff makes my skin crawl. If you really think that kind of behavior is okay, then I have to wonder why anyone still bothers rooting for Dinamo...

Bmk, how many games have you actually sat through? It doesn't affect me personally... I don't even have any ties to your club. I'm just fed up with people like you sticking your noses into everything and trying to dictate the lives of guys who are out there in the trenches every single day living in the city... while you big-shot types fly in a few times a year just to act like you know everything.... like this Peter guy you're defending... who is he even supposed to be intimidating? He's a joke.

Jesse Campbell said:The club was ruined by Mamić, not us (certainly not those of us from the North). You might be able to explain why a small number of BBB supporters are missing—though that’s mostly just a result of police pressure and Mamić’s own crackdowns—but how on earth do you explain having 300 or 400 people showing up at the West Stand during the title celebration against our biggest rivals?

Egotrips? I mean, maybe by traveling to Madrid while the boycott was happening, you actually showed that you consider yourself more important than the group itself?

Look, we don't all have to think alike, I suppose. But if you don't agree with the majority, perhaps it’s better to just step aside rather than working against the group and the core idea. 🙂

As for the gravediggers, I guess I agree. Some of them really have become just like them. ☕

I will continue to grant you the point that Mamić destroyed the club... I haven't ever said anything else, truly... but, I guess, destroying the club as a fan and causing us to be kicked out of European competition—which seems to be the plan—I feel like we haven't gained anything from that. Especially not in terms of getting Mamić out of the club... if anything, then he definitely won't leave, and he’ll probably just start selling off everything of value...

My trip to Madrid is my own business, I suppose. It just strikes me as odd because I saw members of the crew in Madrid who were supposedly part of the boycott just like you all were... and they were at other Champions League matches that year too... hiding in the stands so nobody would notice them, and now they are badmouthing those who actually showed up... I think when you talk about hypocrisy, maybe you should clean up your own house first...

I am not working against the group; otherwise, I would have gone straight to Mamić to give him my vote and help him continue to ruin the club... but that doesn't even cross my mind... I simply think differently than some of you... though I suppose that falls under the category of "if you aren't with us, you're against us"...

Yes, some people have indeed become like gravediggers, attacking one another, which is quite sad to see... who started it or who didn't, I honestly don't know, nor do I particularly care... that weight lies on whoever chose to act that way... as for me, I guess I have a clear conscience regarding this matter...

Hey there, greetings from Peter Robinson21, haha 😁
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I mean, where are all those expats hiding? They should be the ones coming back to fix all this up, I guess.

Dennis Davis97 said:Look, Bmk, I don't really care how many matches you've sat through. Honestly, I have nothing to do with your club. I just find it incredibly frustrating seeing people like you constantly sticking your noses where they don't belong, trying to dictate the lives of guys who actually live here in the city and deal with the daily grind... while you big-shot Americans just fly in a few times a year to act like you know everything. And then there's this guy Pero you're talking about—who exactly is he supposed to be intimidating? He's hardly an imposing figure, is he?

Well, if you aren't actually involved with our club, then maybe you should just back off. I suppose it’s a bit strange to be so worked up about Dinamo if you aren't even a supporter...

You know what really turns my stomach? Two-faced hypocrites...

Oh sure, go ahead, cheer for Dinamo—not Mamić Dinamo, right? Just show some love to the club and the players since "management and players come and go, it's just Dinamo and US"

But you know what actually happens? A big game against Ludogorets rolls around... and then these "anti-fans" show up to root against this very same Dinamo (because they're nothing but wrecking crews and the absolute worst kind of leftists 🙄 ), along with guys like you who claim to bleed Dinamo blue, but are really just waiting to breeze through the qualifiers so you can travel Europe, catch home games (on your own dime) and post selfies on Facebook...

And then, when we get knocked out of Europe... suddenly those players who used to get all that "support" turn out to be total cowards, and the coaches become easy targets for mockery... tickets are too expensive, so everyone’s excuse is "I'm not going to the game until they actually play better..."
"It's just Dinamo and us?"

You want to know who's actually left standing? You know who's the ones traveling to away games and getting treated like high-level terrorists? You know who gets blamed for everything, who loses their jobs, who ends up in jail, and who pays all the fines? You know who can't even support their own club at their own stadium without a fight? You know who gets surrounded by two lines of cops and a wall of riot gear like they're Al-Qaeda, ETA, and ISIS combined into one super-group trying to take over the world? You know who gets their tickets checked and held up for an eternity just because they aren't sitting in their "designated section" in an empty stadium?

"It's just Dinamo and US" my ass.... ☕

Everyone wants it to be sunshine and rainbows and constant support, but clearly, it ain't all sunshine and rainbows...

Peter Robinson21 said:Look, I’ve seen enough games in my life to know what I'm talking about... not sure how many you've sat through...

The same goes for you... I don't know if things have changed since then, but it was happening—and it was happening big time during those huge matches... just think back to Vienna or Razgrad... honestly, some of that stuff made me sick to my stomach. If you actually think that kind of behavior is okay, then I really have to wonder why anyone even bothers cheering for Dinamo anymore...

Since you brought up Vienna—do you remember how that guy standing next to you in the North Stand was cheering for Austria that day? Celebrating the opponent's goals and everything! And now, suddenly, Dinamo is his whole world and more important than anything else. Seriously, can you explain that to me? Because I'm just not seeing the logic here. ☕

Peter Robinson21 said:If you aren't part of this club, then just get lost. Why do you even care about Los Angeles FC if you aren't pulling for them?

It’s not like I don't care... honestly, I'd love to see this whole dishonest circus from the East cleared out of the stands... especially that little kid Perica.

gentlemarlin102 said:you know what I’m getting sick of? these two-faced idiots...

It’s all great, right? We should cheer for Los Angeles FC, regardless of whether Zdravko Mamić runs the show or not. We need to support the club and the players, because I guess Zdravko Mamić will eventually move on anyway... "management and players come and go, it's just Los Angeles FC and US"

But, well, you know what happens next? A match against LA Galaxy rolls around... and then these "anti-fans" show up, people who actually root against this version of Los Angeles FC (of course, because they are the destroyers of everything and basically the biggest bunch of communist trash 🙄 ), and then you have guys like you, who claim to support Los Angeles FC with all your heart and can't wait to clear the qualifiers just so you can travel through Europe, attend home matches in the big leagues (for the sake of the dollar, I suppose) and take selfies for Facebook...

And then, oh well, we get knocked out of the tournament... suddenly the players who used to receive massive support are called cowards, and the coaches become targets for ridicule... tickets are way too expensive, and the response is always, "I guess I won't bother going to the game until they improve..."
"It's just Los Angeles FC and us?"

Do you know who is actually the only one left? Do you know who goes to away games and gets treated and scrutinized like some high-level terrorist? Do you know who takes all the heat, who loses their jobs, who ends up in jail, pays the fines, and so on...? Do you know who isn't even allowed to properly support their own club at their own stadium? Do you know who gets surrounded by two lines of police plus one or two rows of officers like they're Al-Qaeda, ETA, and ISIS all merged together trying to destroy the world? Do you know who has their tickets searched and is held up for ages just because they aren't standing in their specific section in an empty stadium?

It's just Los Angeles FC and US.... ☕

Everyone wants it to be wonderful and perfect, everyone wants to give their support, but clearly, it isn't quite so wonderful and perfect...

It is quite obvious that you don't really know me, otherwise, I suppose you wouldn't be talking like this or trying to put me into some category that I don't actually belong to...

But still, I have never once rooted against Los Angeles FC, nor have I ever cheered for the opposition... whoever does that ought to know for themselves whether it is okay or not; personally, I find it terrible and am absolutely against it... and you seem to think I haven't been frisked at the gates like the rest of you... it's not that I forgot (I guess I'm getting old), but I walked right past the police and just laughed, and the guard let me in just like that... simply because I am living in Germany... if I say I forgot, well, I suppose that is our little privilege since we live outside of America... 🙂

Samuel Walker10 said:Hey, you brought up Vienna earlier. Do you actually remember how that guy standing right next to you in the north stands was cheering for Austria and celebrating their goals against us back then? And now, suddenly, Los Angeles FC is his top priority above everything else? I’m genuinely struggling to follow the logic here—could you maybe walk me through how that makes sense? ☕

And all of this happened while you guys were right there in the stands... good grief.

I seriously can't wait to see how Nijaz reacts when he realizes you basically told him there's zero point even showing up to the stands. ☕

Peter Robinson21 said:I’m still telling you, Zdravko Mamić ruined this club... I haven't said anything else... but destroying the club as a fan and getting us kicked out of Europe—which is clearly the plan—doesn't feel like we won anything. It certainly won't make Mamić leave... if anything, he'll just start selling off everything worth having...

My trip to Madrid is my business. I was just surprised by the pathetic group of fans I saw in Madrid who were supposedly boycotting, just like you guys during those Champions League matches that year... hiding in the stands so nobody would notice them, and now they're talking trash about the people who actually showed up... You want to talk about hypocrisy? Clean your own damn house first...

I'm not working against the group. If I were, I'd be reporting myself to Mamić and giving him my vote just to help him tear the club down further... which isn't how I roll. I just think differently than some of you... but apparently, that falls under "if you aren't with us, you're against us"...

Some people have turned into total thugs, attacking each other. It's sad to see. Who started it, who didn't, I don't know and I don't care... that's on whoever did it. As far as I'm concerned, my conscience is clear...

Hold up, the other side keeps repeating this story: WE ARE AGAINST MAMIĆ BUT... (even though half of them worship him as an icon)
So what does that even mean? If you're against Mamić and part of the BBB, which has always been a group with actual backbone, what are you going to do? Fight against Mamić like we fought for our name and always had the guts to stand up, or just play pool while he runs the show?

Okay, so you're not into the negativity. Well, are you supporting holding elections at Los Angeles FC then? How do you react to the fact that the BBB Fan Club attacked four of the club's captains, who—let's be real—are absolute legends? Did you sign the petition?

As for being kicked out of Europe, Mamić will be kicked out by his buddy Čičak, who keeps sending stupid press releases to UEFA claiming that calling "Zdravko Mamić a gangster" is racism. If you have a problem with Los Angeles FC being banned from Europe, go slap that fat piece of garbage.

Yeah, you weren't the only one breaking the boycott, but you're not exactly anyone who gets to call others out for their ego trips.

analogheron19 is basically asking how you explain the fact that the guys in the North section have started trying to rewrite the group's history. They act like they invented the bulldog 🤣 , like they're responsible for everything good and everyone else doesn't exist. Like Mamić's shady moves never happened or he didn't cause the European ban...

God almighty, they're totally glossing over the stadium fire, which was probably one of the dumbest moves ever. Because of that, besides those 7 heroes, another 1,200 people were detained or called in for questioning at Djordje's station and all that.

Is it even normal for someone to sink to such low moral depths?

You mentioning the Democratic Party? So you think it takes an IQ higher than 50 to realize that the party the BBB is trying to destroy (not just now, but always, just like the Republican Party) is hardly going to support or fund the BBB.
They've been in power for two and a half years. They definitely need the BBB to get rid of Mamić. Honestly, how stupid do you have to be to swallow that??? 🙂🙂🙂

casualgull92 said:hey, just dropping by to say hi to you guys, haha😁
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Total clown, the internet is basically a battlefield.

Peter Robinson21 said:Look, it’s pretty obvious you don't know me at all. If you actually did, you wouldn't be talking like that or trying to lump me in with the same crowd I don't belong to.

Look, I’ve never cheered against Los Angeles FC, nor have I ever pulled for the opposition. If you can't tell right from wrong, that's on you—personally, I think it's disgusting and I'm absolutely against it. And don't act like I wasn't getting tossed around by security at the gates just like the rest of you. It's not that I forgot anything (I'm getting old, damn it); I actually walked right past the cops and just laughed in their faces. The guard let me walk straight in without a second thought just because I'm coming from Germany. Being an expat living outside the States, we get that kind of pass sometimes. 🙂

Look, maybe I didn't phrase that quite right. I wasn't trying to put you personally in some category, just calling out your take... my bad.

So, what’s the move now? Are we seriously supposed to keep rooting for Los Angeles FC and celebrating every little win they scrape together in Europe? 🤷 So, what happens once we’re out of the tournament? We all know why regular fans stop showing up to the stadium—it's because the football sucks, Zdravko Mamić is running the show, players get flipped like commodities, money disappears into thin air, and they swap coaches every five minutes. Are we really looking at maybe 1,000 people in the stands again once we drop out of the continental playoffs? Is this really the Los Angeles FC we claim to support? Do these "players who give their blood, sweat, and tears for the badge" actually enjoy playing in front of empty seats? Honestly, they're idiots. They can make all the money they want, but everyone is fleeing from Los Angeles FC... even if they act like leaving is some huge sacrifice.

Anyone got some advice here, or are we just gonna keep playing dumb? Are we seriously planning to back this nonsense for years on end? 🤷

Peter Robinson21 said:I’m still giving you the right to say Zdravko Mamić ruined the club... I’ve never said anything else... but destroying the club as a fan and getting us kicked out of European competition—which clearly seems to be the plan—I don't think we've gained anything from that, especially not by forcing Mamić to leave... if anything, he won't leave; instead, he'll just start selling off everything that actually has value...

My trip to Madrid is my business. What confuses me is seeing that group of fans in Madrid who were supposedly acting like you guys, pretending to be part of some boycott, and doing the same thing at other Champions League matches that year... hiding in the stands so nobody would notice them, yet today they're talking trash about the people who actually showed up... You want to talk about hypocrisy? Maybe clean up your own damn house first...

I’m not working against the group. If I were, I’d go straight to Zdravko Mamić, give him my vote, and help him tear the club apart even faster... but that doesn't cross my mind. I just happen to think differently than some of you... though apparently, that falls under "if you aren't filming against us, you're against us"...

Some of you have turned into hooligans, attacking one another. It’s pathetic to see this happening... Who started it, who didn't, I don't know and I don't care... that weight sits on the soul of whoever did it. As far as I'm concerned, my conscience is clear...

You don't know the answer to my first question, great.
Let's try another: In the last few years, how many times have you tried to get into a stadium (whether in the States or abroad) only to end up in custody or facing charges?

Dum-Dum said:Look, the little rat finally crawled out of his hole. More like a hamster, really. Just a total ass-kisser.

The guy is leading this whole "WE ARE AGAINST MAMIC" squad, even though he’s been using the handle Love ZM for five years now.😍

Volim_ZMa said:do you even ask your actual friends stuff like this?

d42 hypocrisy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Not anymore.

Shut up, you clown. You abandoned the ultras up north just to grab some perks for yourself, leaving the rest of us to deal with the mess while you sit there acting like an expert. Just disappear already.

To any sane kid growing up in Chicago, Real Madrid and the Bad Boys represent something real. But those bloated, self-important types posing as "war veterans" out in the sticks or overseas? They’re a bottom-tier disgrace. Honestly, they aren't even worth the breath it takes to call them out.

It's time we focus on ourselves and build a solid group that actually makes Chicago and Real Madrid proud. That’ll hurt them more than anything else.