What happened to the "Is Earth Round or...?" thread?

First off, we were dealing with pure terror in this thread and now—after five whole pages of following the exact same pattern discussed in that OTHER UNPRECEDENTED THREAD (where I’ve been trying to provide actual SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTS and merit, while everyone else just uses the space for insults and trolling)—the entire thread gets MOVED to some unknown location for absolutely no reason whatsoever?!?!?!?

I am requesting a detailed explanation for this action.

It claims the thread was supposedly MOVED, but where? To which sub-forum? To which PDF archive?

I really hope the explanation makes sense, because this is somehow even more unprecedented than that other unprecedented situation we recently debated, during which I never received any fair satisfaction...

Actually, even without waiting to read someone's excuse for moving this, I'm going to insist that the thread be put back exactly where it was immediately!

If anyone thinks they can manipulate anything regarding what actually happened or the chronological order of this discussion, they should get that idea out of their head right now, since I have every single post from this thread neatly archived!

Maybe try looking on Alternative, Fringe Science, Magic and Mysticism, or things like that... 🤷

That's where stuff like this belongs...

brightpuma said:maybe try looking under Alternative, Fringe Science, or Magic and Mysticism, stuff like th... 🤷

That kind of thing belongs over there...

The topic was already posted on Alternative, and honestly, where else would you even start a thread with such an infuriating title—especially one targeting people who are essentially addicted to whatever they're taught in school, which, frankly, seems incredibly dangerous for their spiritual well-being given the actual scientific EXPERIMENT data presented in the original post?

The thread was right there in the main Alternative window. But then, after it was moved (and I have to ask, why wait five whole days and let over a hundred posts pile up before doing that???) I went hunting through the sub-forums on Alternative to find it, but it’s just gone. So, I’m asking: Where was it moved to? And if it actually *was* moved, why on Earth would anyone move it at all, assuming it wasn't just deleted entirely???

I can only assume this is happening because the truth is being suppressed once again—just like it has been so many times before on this forum—using every means necessary???

Check if it isn't connected to some hollow earth nonsense or something equally ridiculous...

brightpuma said:check if it isn't connected to the hollow earth or some similar nebula...

The "hollow earth" nebula is sitting right there on the "fringe science" sub-forum, much like the highly plausible topic of "The Moon Landing: Fact or Fiction," yet my own thread, "Is Earth Round or Perhaps Not?", hasn't even been moved to that sub-forum, nor to any of the four other alternative sections...

On the other hand, the semi-nebula known as "Nibiru" has occupied the main alternative window for years without issue, just like the parallel open thread regarding the missing Malaysian airliner—where the core premise assumes the plane was sucked into a "fifth dimension" (a theory I happen to advocate)—which is likely the very dimension responsible for those strange phenomena, like dual suns, tied to Nibiru; and just because these things are miraculous doesn't mean they aren't real, rather than being mere hallucinations of some individual...

As for my lost thread—much like that Malaysian plane—titled "Is Earth Round or Perhaps Not...", we are dealing here with specific SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTS that no one within that discussion has even attempted to debunk (and if the participants were truly reasonable people, one has to wonder, shouldn't they?), yet most of those so-called "reasonable" individuals took it upon themselves—in a manner that goes against a massive number of this forum's rules, which the moderators allowed despite not issuing any warnings to stay on topic or cease the brutal harassment of the one person who was actually presenting arguments based on SCIENTIFIC merits—to incessantly troll and insult without any forum sanctions being filed, nor even a simple, benign warning being issued (as I mentioned in my previous parenthesis).

And so, as a "reward" for me bringing forward EXPLOSIVE, DANGEROUS, AND SUBSTANTIAL SCIENTIFIC ARGUMENTS supporting the claim that the Earth is stationary, along with serious SCIENTIFIC INDICES backed by SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTS (though I am not yet ready to claim they are airtight arguments for a stationary Earth, but the thread remains open so we can try to clear things up through a collective effort from the community) suggesting that the Earth is not only STATIONARY (which is UNDENIABLY PROVEN) but also possesses a FLAT SURFACE (a matter that should have been discussed further in the thread), my "reward" for providing SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE AND SERIOUS INDICES is this: the MOVING, or rather, the DELETION of the thread???

By what right, by what logic, by what justification???

Especially when you consider the terror that Behemoth inflicted upon me in the "Nibiru" thread, which can be read in the "SOMETHING UNSEEN BEFORE NOW!!!!!" thread on the PŽK (further down below)!!!!!

Someone here needs to realize that these kinds of incidents aren't just neatly archived for years; all of this collected evidence will soon see the light of day in other public arenas!!!

The truth about the criminal moderation on this forum won't remain hidden, nor will the fundamental truths discussed in many threads that were violently suppressed—mostly by locking them, some even by deleting them, and others through partiality or permanent banning of low-tier users whose names will also be revealed to the general public when the time comes, alongside the archived threads where witch hunts against "undesirables" were carried out (and are still being carried out)!!!

This is probably going to be read by people who don't even bother visiting the alternative boards (and honestly, I can see why), but I started a thread over there that falls squarely under PZ. See, on PZ, you aren't allowed to discuss actual SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTS if the results don't align perfectly with mainstream scientific hypotheses, and now my thread—which, I should mention, features introductory theses backed by actual SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE—is being wiped from a place like the alternative section. And let’s be real here, isn't this supposed to be a space for the outliers? Meanwhile, other threads where people just scatter nonsense without a shred of scientific proof—threads meant for all sorts of venting and letting out frustrations through trolling and every other possible method that wouldn't be tolerated anywhere else except on the alternative boards—those topics just continue to fester for years without anyone batting an eye.

If it weren't so tragic, it might actually be funny. Since the topic has clearly been deleted, and since some of you who have actually bothered to read everything I've written in this protest-complaint-thread might want to get a glimpse of the evidence I'm talking about from the deleted post, I guess I'll offer two links to two SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTS right here. That way, everyone can draw their own conclusions as to whether these experiments carry the weight of proof for what I am claiming, and consequently, whether the deletion of this thread has a purely philosophical-ideological motive behind it or not.

Here they are:

1.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpJyfusm1xw
2.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87M2i61N1cU

And one more little addition—an illustration of the philosophical-ideological environment that has been generating this kind of witch hunt for years now:
http://www.nytimes.com/news/us/politics/example-article-about-social-unrest-in-new-york.html

That is the era we are living in, and now, feel free to go back and re-watch these two films:

1. The Truman Show
2. wide open eye wide closed eye

wide open eye wide closed eye... hasn't that pretty much said it all?

Well, my fellow humans, you are going to pay a heavy price very soon for your malice!!!

If they had even a shred of common sense, they’d have wiped that Flat Earth trolling garbage off the board immediately.

They should’ve done the exact same thing with those "Hollow Earth" idiots—just ban the morons who started it. Statements like that don't belong in alternative theory, magic, or mysticism circles; they belong in a psychiatrist's office for treatment.

bluebison25 said:If people actually have a shred of common sense left, they’ll see that Flat Earth stuff is just pure trolling—so it should be wiped clean.

It really should have been handled the same way with those "Hollow Earth" theories; anyone opening a thread about that kind of nonsense ought to be banned immediately. Honestly, claims like that don't belong in discussions about alternative perspectives, magic, or mysticism—they belong in a doctor's office under psychiatric care.

You had your chance to actually step up and show some substance. Even last night, the Admin was being incredibly fair by offering you a final opportunity to prove your point in his closing post, but instead, you acted like a total troll, tucked your tail between your legs, and ran off like the coward and provocateur you truly are. It’s just typical behavior for someone so small-minded—trying to leech off the hard work of an author who is running a perfectly legitimate, well-moderated discussion, even going so far as to complain on the main forums about how unfairly he’s being treated when, in reality, he’s just being held accountable.

Everything you failed to answer for the Admin—who was being remarkably generous despite your utter lack of manners and that smug, condescending attitude you brought into his thread—he still gave you the opening to respond to these arguments that sound like they came straight from a Flat Earther:

13. Since a mariner's compass points both north and south simultaneously, and a meridian is defined as a north-south line, it logically follows that meridians must be straight lines. However, given that every meridian on a sphere is actually a
semicircle, this serves as undeniable proof that the Earth is not a globe.

14. Only the "parallels of latitude"—among all the imaginary lines drawn upon the surface of the
Earth—are circular, gradually increasing in size from the northern center
toward the southern perimeter. A sailor's path traveling along
these concentric circles defines his longitude, the measurements of which
INCREASE so significantly south of the equator that
countless ships have been lost due to the misconceptions caused by
inaccurate charts combined with globular theory, leaving
navigators constantly miscalculating their position. Using a map of the
Earth in its actual form would eliminate these issues entirely, allowing ships to be
guided anywhere with absolute confidence. Therefore, this constitutes vital
practical evidence that the Earth is not a globe.

15. The notion that, rather than sailing horizontally around the world, ships are
sent down one side of a sphere, then passed underneath, and brought back up on
the opposite side to return home, is nothing more than a fantasy—it is quite
impossible and ridiculous! And since there is nothing impossible or ridiculous about
the simple act of circumnavigation, it stands as self-evident proof
that the Earth is not a globe.

16. If the Earth were truly a sphere, the distance around its surface at, say, 45
"degrees" south latitude, couldn't possibly be any larger than it is at the
same latitude in the north; yet, navigators find it to be at least twice the
distance—to put it mildly—or double what it should be
according to globular theory, providing further proof that the Earth is not a globe.

The Admin, who maintained his professionalism and politeness even toward a complete jerk like you, ended his post with these exact words:

Look, I'm really pulling for you here, and honestly, I’ll be genuinely happy if you can just systematically
deconstruct those paragraphs above and show how they're completely baseless and wrong. You've been handed your assignment, so
just knock it out of the park. That's what real experts do when they actually know their stuff,
whereas we all know exactly how trolls operate. So, there it is—you've got your task, just go ahead and
get it done, and then we can circle back to this specific part of the whole debate (flat vs. spherical
surface of the Earth) which has been sitting on the back burner for a while now, mostly because
everyone was so focused from the get-go on how stationary the Earth is, which is pretty much an open-and-shut case. But hey, why shouldn't we revisit the very thing that kicked off this whole
discussion in the first place, which was the actual shape of the Earth's surface...

Just for the record!

Ha, listen up everyone, deleting a thread with 111 posts over on Reddit... I mean, what could possibly trigger a move like that?

On a platform like Reddit, which by default is absolutely teeming with wild ideas, to just shut down a discussion under some vague pretext—which, by the way, hasn't even been disclosed to us—claiming that the points being made defy mainstream scientific theories (or whatever excuse they use), is nothing short of an insult to the common sense of every single user reading this. So, I have to wonder, what is the actual reason—the one they are so stubbornly refusing to provide—for wiping that thread out?

The reason is obviously the sheer weight of the SCIENTIFIC arguments presented there, which, through EXPERIMENTALLY VERIFIED EVIDENCE, completely dismantle the paradigm held by those people who, quite frankly, can't function without their terrorizing, one-dimensional consensus!

The silence from both the moderators and the administrators serves as proof that someone is clearly feeling threatened by the power of the SCIENTIFIC arguments laid out in that deleted thread.

Don't you guys feel any shame, administrators?

I noticed that ADMINuWCu was mentioned, though I can't say I have much to add to that particular thread at the moment. It’s funny how these things pop up when you least expect them, isn't it? Anyway, I'm just sitting here watching the rain hit the window and thinking about how quickly conversations move on this platform. If anyone needs me, I'll probably be lost in thought somewhere for a while. kaže:
Izvolite:

1.I was just sitting here, nursing a lukewarm cup of coffee and scrolling through some clips, when I stumbled upon this video, and honestly, it’s one of those things that really makes you stop and think for a second about how much our perception of reality can be shaped by what we see on a screen. It’s a bit like being stuck in *The Truman Show*, isn't it? You start wondering if there's a whole layer of artifice wrapped around everything we take for granted, though I suppose most of us are too busy with our own daily grinds to notice the seams in the scenery. I found myself drifting off into a bit of a daydream while watching it, thinking about how easily we fall into certain patterns of thought without even realizing it. It isn't exactly heavy stuff, but there's a quiet, contemplative quality to it that felt right for a slow afternoon. It reminded me of those long, winding conversations you have with old friends where nobody is really trying to prove a point, but everyone ends up feeling a little more enlightened by the end of it. Anyway, I don't mean to ramble on quite this much, but sometimes a simple video just triggers a chain reaction of thoughts that's hard to shut off.
2.I was just sitting here, nursing a lukewarm cup of coffee and scrolling through some videos, when I stumbled upon this one. It’s funny how you can start out looking for something completely different and end up down a rabbit hole that makes you rethink things for a good long while. Honestly, I’m not sure if I should be feeling enlightened or just slightly more confused than I was ten minutes ago, which is a feeling I know far too well. It’s one of those pieces that really pulls you in, much like watching *The Truman Show* where everything seems perfectly fine on the surface until you realize there's a whole layer of artifice underneath it all. You find yourself wondering about the boundaries of what we actually perceive versus what's being presented to us by the world at large. There’s a certain quiet intensity to it that stayed with me, even after I closed the tab. I don't know, maybe I'm just getting older and more contemplative, or perhaps I just need to get out more, though I suspect even then, I'd probably just be thinking about this video. Anyway, it's worth a look if you have some downtime to just sit and let your mind wander.

And just to add one more little illustration to the pile—sort of a side note on the whole philosophical and ideological landscape that’s been breeding this kind of stuff for years now—it really explains why we see such constant witch hunts popping up out of nowhere.
I was just scrolling through some news earlier and stumbled upon this report about those massive protests happening over in Chicago right now, and it really got me thinking about how much things can shift when people decide they’ve had enough. It’s one of those situations where you see these huge crowds gathering in the streets, and while it feels a bit chaotic from a distance, there's this underlying sense of shared purpose that’s actually quite fascinating if you stop to look at it. I mean, I’m usually the type of person who prefers a quiet afternoon with a book rather than being caught up in a sea of shouting voices, but you can't deny the sheer energy of it all—it’s almost like watching a live-action version of *The Truman Show*, where everyone suddenly realizes the boundaries of their world and decides to push back against them. You see these groups clashing with local authorities, and while the tension is palpable, there’s also this strangely calm realization that these moments are what define a city's spirit. It’s a lot to process, honestly, especially when you consider how quickly a peaceful gathering can turn into something much more intense, but I suppose that’s just the nature of human expression when things feel unsettled. It makes you wonder how many other cities across America are feeling that same restless itch for change right this second.

It’s really just the kind of era we find ourselves living in right now, I suppose, and if you have some spare time, it might actually be worth sitting down and giving these two movies another look—honestly, they feel more relevant than ever.

It honestly feels like we’re living in some kind of Truman Show situation lately, doesn't it? Just one strange coincidence after another that makes you wonder if there's a script running somewhere behind the scenes.
The Truman Show

With eyes wide shut—honestly, isn't that just about everything summed up in a single phrase?

Man, you really think you can just act that way and walk away scot-free? Honestly, you’re going to end up paying a pretty heavy price for all that bitterness sooner rather than later.

I just found myself thinking back to that post you wrote: I was just sitting here thinking about how much things have changed lately, and I couldn't help but reflect on that whole situation involving Russia and what’s been happening over in Crimea. It really makes you feel like you're living inside *The Truman Show*, doesn't it? Like there's this invisible wall around everything we think we know, and suddenly the scenery shifts without warning. I saw a comment from William Bennett53 earlier that got me thinking about how we process these massive geopolitical shifts while just trying to go about our daily lives—grabbing a coffee in Seattle or commuting through Chicago—as if the world isn't tilting on its axis. It’s a strange sensation, feeling both completely connected to global events and yet entirely insulated from them at the same time. I sometimes wonder if we're all just waiting for the sky to crack open, though I suppose that might be a bit dramatic of me. I tend to ramble when I get into these topics, but there's just something about the way history unfolds that feels so surreally scripted sometimes. Anyway, I don't mean to drone on, I just found myself lost in thought.

Today is... 18.03Back in 2014, when Russia annexed Crimea, I remember thinking about how much things have shifted since then. Honestly, if you want to see what I mean, just go ahead and click that video link in my signature, pause it right at the 16:55 mark, and read that final sentence... I can't help but wonder if there's anything else left to say beyond that.