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Is it possible to retake a partial exam in Religion?

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Participants rapidskipper8Nicholas Williams7Charles Wells71wearyowl29rustydrifter10Nicole JamesTyler Cruz32Sam Alvarez4
rapidskipper8 rapidskipper8 NewcomerOP
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joined Feb 2012
#1 ·
Is it actually possible that you gave me a partial ban in the religion section? I honestly can't believe this; it feels like a total slap in the face. I guess I have to wonder what I could have possibly done wrong in the religion sub-forum to trigger a partial ban?? I don't see how my posts differ from anyone else's. People like Nicholas Williams7, Hela, and Nimrod troll and insult others in every single thread, yet nobody seems to react, while I'm the one getting hit with a partial ban.???

In that PDF regarding religion, I basically left you all speechless. I think I successfully debunked every single one of those falsehoods you were trying to push. Maybe this is just some kind of retaliation, because the only people who could have pulled something like that were Meadow and ego—I went head-to-head with her, and since I managed to shut her down with actual arguments in front of everyone, I suppose this is just payback.

I suggest everyone takes a look at my posts; they'll see that I was writing quite normally. I only received a couple of warnings for trolling in the religion section, and that was it. No one even gave me a heads-up or anything. I really can't believe this. Don't you feel any shame??
Nicholas Williams7 Nicholas Williams7 Member
48 messages
joined Jan 2013
#2 ·
The clock is ticking, and honestly, it’s about time someone finally tore through that colorful gift wrap you've used to disguise your obsessive little mission to convert everyone else ☕
rapidskipper8 rapidskipper8 NewcomerOP
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joined Feb 2012
#3 ·
It is because I completely dismantled your arguments. It is because I was simply stating the facts—that crime rates are rampant in the West, that sexual violence is an epidemic, and that Western society has become a breeding ground for criminality. You couldn't find a single logical counterpoint to my PDF, so you just waited for the chance to get rid of me. If my points were weak, why didn't you just humiliate me with better arguments? 😁

Honestly, I take this as a massive compliment. God knows, the moderators are just so exhausted by me that they've resorted to partial bans. Anyone can look back through my posts and see that I haven't broken a single rule. A ban shouldn't be handed out just because people don't like what I have to say, but apparently, that is how things work here now. This forum has turned into a total dictatorship. It’s the same old concept: getting rid of anyone who doesn't fit the narrative through sheer force. It reminds me of how the U.S. military used strikes to take down leaders just because their rhetoric was inconvenient; well, here you are, taking me down through unfair and heavy-handed means. Hahaha

I'd rather take the ban than let you keep spewing such filth.
Nicholas Williams7 Nicholas Williams7 Member
48 messages
joined Jan 2013
#4 ·
rapidskipper8 said:I’d rather fail my finals than give you the satisfaction of spewing such absolute garbage.


Maybe you call it "art," and hey, I'm not surprised—everyone sees what they want to see. But if you ask me? This show is basically a mirror image of Hitler's Nazi ideology. It’s just pure, unadulterated sadism, hatred, cruelty, and intolerance through and through.

All the "beauty" this series has to offer... 🤮

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzguXsBYReI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHUDdSHDTic
Charles Wells71 Charles Wells71 Member
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joined Jun 2013
#5 ·
Wait, why are you even coming for me?!

I feel like I’m constantly getting targeted by some random guys online, and honestly, it's starting to get under my skin a little bit😳

Look, I don't know why you're being so biased, and it's really not my place to step in—I wouldn't go assigning blame if I were you—but I'm not the moderator here, so just don't act like you're actually winning some big intellectual debate🙄
rapidskipper8 rapidskipper8 NewcomerOP
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joined Feb 2012
#6 ·
Ashley Rodriguez20 said:Look, why are you targeting me?!

I feel like I’m constantly being called out by certain people from the religion, and honestly, it's starting to get under my skin a little bit.😳

I don't really know why you're getting biased here, and it isn't my place to step in—I wouldn't assign a penalty myself since I'm not a moderator—but just don't act like you're having some kind of logical debate.🙄

Do you actually think I deserved a penalty? This could have easily been initiated by Meadow. It feels like straight-up harassment, and I'm honestly speechless.

I'm asking to see five specific posts of mine that supposedly caused this penalty. Go ahead, show me those posts!
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
715 messages
joined Feb 2014
#7 ·
rapidskipper8 said:Do you think I deserved a partial ban?

You absolutely did.

Look, when someone just keeps throwing around propaganda like they're reading from a script, there's zero chance for a real conversation. You didn't come here to actually talk; you came here to preach about the beauties of Islam—and hey, I get it, the architecture is stunning—but you completely dodge any real discussion regarding the status of women in the 21st century.

Trying to have a debate with you feels exactly like looking at this little guy:

http://www.sadaovdje.com/portal/razn.../_images/1.jpg

You aren't listening to a word anyone says—you just keep circling back to your own points.
Your eyes are shut tight because you refuse to acknowledge what’s right in front of you,
and honestly, your mouth stays shut because the truth is too hard to say out loud.

In your world, everyone else is always wrong, so what am I supposed to do? Give you a reality check.
rapidskipper8 rapidskipper8 NewcomerOP
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joined Feb 2012
#8 ·
rustydrifter10 and Uncle Sam, I realize everyone probably hates my guts because of some things I said and how I might have offended people regarding discrimination, but I don't think you have the right to act this way. It seems likely that Grace Kim80 started this whole thing after our disagreement over Religion, and now she’s looking for payback. Whether or not people actually like me shouldn't matter; you shouldn't behave like this. I haven't done anything particularly egregious in the Religion section—if you just read my posts, you'll see that. I am simply looking for an explanation as to why I received a partial ban.

Everyone keeps bringing up how I try to convince others about the beauty of Islam, or how I don't listen to what others say, and so on. But I guess that is my right. I'm not here to cater to anyone else, nor am I insulting anyone; I am just expressing my views. Please respond so we can put this to rest. Let everyone see what this forum has turned into!
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#9 ·
rapidskipper8, I’m going to go ahead and ping the mods so they can weigh in on this, though you really should have already received a direct message explaining exactly why that partial grade was handed out.

As for everyone else, please just stay out of this thread and refrain from spamming.
rapidskipper8 rapidskipper8 NewcomerOP
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#10 ·
rustydrifter10 said:rapidskipper8, I’ll reach out to the mods to get their take on this, though you really should have received a message explaining why the partial ban was issued.

Everyone else, please don't get involved or start spamming this thread.

I feel like only Grace Kim80 or maybe Gregory Turner71 would act this way. I didn't receive any warning, and there wasn't anything in my posts that suggested I was heading toward a partial ban. I guess if you could just look over my history, you might see for yourself that I haven't done anything to deserve being banned.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#11 ·
The decision on a ban isn't just one person acting on their own whim; it’s something all the moderators have to weigh in on together. It can't be the call of just one moderator, or even a small group, unless everyone is actually on the same page and we reach a consensus.
rapidskipper8 rapidskipper8 NewcomerOP
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#12 ·
Grace Kim80 was the one who started this. Since they're colleagues, I suppose she finds it difficult to just say, "Hey, this guy is really getting on my nerves, let's go ahead and ban him."

It seems impossible that I received a partial ban for any legitimate reason. I write quite normally. Other people are constantly trolling and being insulting without even getting a warning, let alone a partial ban. I simply stood up to them because of that, and apparently, they didn't appreciate what I had to say. I don't see how I could be facing this when I've barely received three warnings in the religion section since I started posting here. I'm honestly wondering if Bluebird sided with them, because I always viewed her as a fair moderator.

If possible, please review my last 30 or so posts, because those are the ones that supposedly earned me this partial ban!
rapidskipper8 rapidskipper8 NewcomerOP
2 messages
joined Feb 2012
#13 ·
I've been a registered member here for about a year and a half now. During that entire period, I’ve only received three cards in the religion PDF, and honestly, they were completely useless and highly debatable. I guess I have to wonder if there's even any point in me expecting a partial award after all this. It feels like blatant discrimination to me.
Nicole James Nicole James Regular
313 messages
joined Dec 2010
#14 ·
You constantly derail discussions into off-topic tangents, you’re being disrespectful, and you’re picking fights with the moderators—but most importantly, you aren't showing even a shred of genuine motivation to change your ways. I assume you thought we moderators were just going to follow some rigid playbook where we hand out bans like trading cards—thinking you could just sit out a suspension for a bit and then come right back to run wild on the forums and laugh in our faces. Well, that isn't how this works.
rapidskipper8 rapidskipper8 NewcomerOP
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joined Feb 2012
#15 ·
Gregory Turner71 said:You constantly derail discussions into off-topic territory, you're insulting people, you pick fights with the moderators, and most importantly, you show absolutely zero desire to change. I guess you assumed that we moderators were obligated to follow the rulebook strictly, so you thought you could just serve a brief ban and then go wild again on the forum while laughing in our faces. Well, that isn't going to happen.

So, dear rustydrifter10, the person moderating you on the religion board is lecturing me about being insulting, yet they're telling me that I'm the one acting out there. Isn't that an insult in itself?

I guess if they want to make accusations, they should provide at least three posts where I actually insulted someone personally or steered a conversation off-topic. I was just participating like everyone else, but maybe you're just choosing to ignore that because you're being unfair to me... I received this partial ban simply because I kept pointing out how unfairly I was being treated.

Here is the proof. Gregory Turner71 gave me a strike because I called someone a troll. Then, a user named Nemruth told me that I was a troll, so I reported that to Gregory Turner71 and even sent him a private message, but he ignores it entirely and won't penalize that specific post. He's totally ignoring me, even though he explicitly stated that calling someone a troll is against the rules.

Then, Gregory Turner71 gave me a strike because I told a female user she was talking nonsense (I can't show the exact post because he deleted it, but he knows exactly what happened), and then a few days later, that same user tells me *I'm* the one talking nonsense, and Gregory Turner71 consciously ignores it and refuses to take action.

http://www.example-us-forum.com/showpost.php?p=4...postcount=3325

I believe I have proven that I am being discriminated against on the religion board, and this partial ban is just the final act of that discrimination. I've demonstrated that double standards exist, and that is exactly why I received this partial ban—because I criticize their work as moderators, and as you can all see, my criticisms are justified.

Just find three posts where I insult someone, or three posts where I go off-topic!. If I had been insulting anyone, I would have received strikes, and out of the three strikes I've received on the religion board, two were for trolling and one was for being insulting.
Tyler Cruz32 Tyler Cruz32 Active Member
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joined Oct 2012
#16 ·
rapidskipper8 said:So, dear rustydrifter10, since you moderate the religion board, he keeps lecturing me about being respectful while simultaneously accusing me of acting out there. Isn't that an insult?

Here is a perfect example of your rhetoric.

So, I suppose we are all wrong, nobody knows anything, and you are the sole individual speaking the truth, the only one who is right, and the only victim of constant persecution and harassment?

Yes, you were causing chaos here, and that is simply a fact.
When you were banned, things on this forum were peaceful. As soon as your ban lifted, it was the same old pattern.

The reasons why I supported your partial ban—even though I didn't initiate it, despite your false accusations to that effect (which you have done from day one without cause, even while I endured your insults and bullying)—are the same ones Gregory Turner71 listed.

You recently returned to the forum after a long absence, claiming that the moderators here have been "persecuting" you previously. Fine.
You participated in a thread that devolved into trolling and massive off-topic tangents.
We cleaned it up and cleared the deck. Five of you ended up with cumulative bans, yourself included. Following that, you opened a thread specifically targeting banned users where you resorted to insults:

I don't need the opinion of Gregory Turner71, whose handle alone tells you everything you need to know about him.

Pathetic and sad! But it just shows what kind of people you all are.
Gregory Turner71 is a disgrace to this forum; I honestly don't know who gave him moderator status.


After returning from your ban, you immediately joined the same thread and once again steered the conversation toward politics, despite my explicit warning just moments before that we could no longer discuss political matters (as that was the exact reason for the previous trolling and off-topic mess).

Moderator warnings in color aren't meant to be quoted, debated, or argued with.
You chose to ignore that, then proceeded to quote me along with the remark: Oh, really?

At that point, I could have easily issued a rule violation notice, but I didn't; I simply deleted the post.

Then, you decided to completely disregard the thread guidelines and attempted to pivot the discussion back to war atrocities and genocide by mentioning Srebrenica. Had I allowed that, it would have dragged the thread back into the exact same situation from a few days ago, which I could not permit. You were subsequently issued a rule violation notice resulting in a cumulative ban.

Instead of acknowledging that you were actually in the wrong, you went ahead and opened a new thread on KZB, where it is blatantly obvious from your writing that you either truly don't understand where the issue lies, or you are engaging in intentional trolling (and frankly, I cannot determine which of the two it is). It remains a matter of fact, plain as day, that your perception of events does not align with reality:
Why is everyone against me? Why am I being discriminated against at every turn?

I am demanding an immediate removal of my ban and a formal apology from Grace Kim80, who acted in an utterly unprofessional manner toward me. We had a disagreement during our Religion class, and she simply seized the opportunity to have me banned.

Once again, we have the dissemination of falsehoods. You and I haven't engaged in any actual argument or debate; if anything, we merely exchanged a few comments regarding which post belonged to whom. To be honest, I can't even recall if such an exchange occurred, let alone how you could possibly claim I am hounding you just because you think you won a verbal sparring match. Furthermore, the sheer fact that I have no memory of our correspondence serves as proof of how little of an impact this interaction had on me.

Uncle Sam spoke up, stating that the card definitely holds.
That matter was settled.
You have persisted in insulting both me and Gregory Turner71 by labeling us as selfish brutes.

Then you get unbanned, only to turn around and violate our rules all over again.
It is patently obvious that some people fail to grasp the fundamental mechanics of how this Book works. It isn’t designed to allow the same resolved issues to be dragged through endless pages of repetitive entries. Now that Uncle Sam has already ruled on your appeal regarding that card, you have returned to the Book to address me as if I were some character stepping straight out of Forrest Gump, while you position yourself as the director of the universe coming down to mock me over a card that the administrator already cleared. I suppose I could have easily cited you for violating the rules by repeatedly raising a settled issue and demonstrating clear trolling intentions, but I chose not to.

I attempted to handle this with grace and didn't intend to offend you, yet you chose to persist with your insults in a subsequent post. And all of that, mind you, was written in red font.

Naturally, once Gregory Turner71 witnessed that kind of behavior, you were issued a warning for trolling, which eventually led to an accumulated ban.

Then you go right back to posting on your thread in the banned section, doubling down on the insults by calling us pathetic and lecturing everyone about our egos, before finally telling Gregory Turner71 exactly what a loser he is and adding that we'll see him again in three days.

The question regarding your partiality has finally been raised. It seems the consensus is that you simply refuse to stop, as no amount of outside suggestion ever seems to influence you; you just continue to do exactly what you want regardless.

Now that you've finally emerged from that ban, you’re circling back to this topic again. Meanwhile, there is an ongoing thread on the Forum where you are attempting to convince both me and Bluebird that we are the ones missing the point regarding Sharia law as a legal framework in certain nations—despite us quoting those countries' constitutions verbatim to prove our case. On this same subject, you are once again "arguing" by pivoting toward American foreign policy and our wars in the Middle East. Bluebird is trying to point out in that thread that such a redirection isn't exactly the most relevant approach, yet you just persist in doing things your own way.

You are opening a new thread in parallel.
You report a few posts using the flag icon, and then immediately rush over to the Book to start posting about those same reports. I already told you quite clearly that you need to submit the flags first and wait for them to be handled before bringing the matter up on the Book. You didn't follow that, instead choosing to report things on both the flag system and the Book simultaneously. This creates a situation where users congregate on the PDF to argue and call each other out, which only serves to sour the atmosphere on the platform—something that is entirely unnecessary.

At some point yesterday evening, the decision regarding your partial failure was finalized.
I suppose you didn't give me any indication that you were planning on stopping.

You have an issue with authority.
While I don't particularly care for viewing moderation as some sort of untouchable authority—since I believe most issues can be settled through civil, reasonable discussion—it seems that reaching an understanding with you is simply impossible.
You refuse to accept any suggestion whatsoever; instead, you twist my words and attempt to find some sort of hidden agenda where none exists.

You seem to be playing the victim here. First, you claim people were out to get you on our old message board before you left, then you argue that users over at The New York Times treated you unfairly, and now you’re insisting we’re persecuting you again—all while claiming I personally harbor a grudge over some conversation I don't even remember having. It’s quite a list of grievances.
The problem lies with everyone else, except you.

Because of all this, I found myself supporting the proposal regarding your partials.
When they were assigned to you last night, I felt a certain sense of regret... it wasn't as if I was indifferent. However, when forced to choose between the feelings of a single forum member versus the integrity of the PDF, I have to prioritize the PDF. Your presence seems detrimental to our PDF.

You view us all as enemies. It is unfortunate, and you are certainly free to continue viewing me as an adversary, but I am not your enemy. I harbor no hatred toward you, nor do I take anything personally; had you actually corrected your behavior after that first escapade, this entire thread and the issue of your partials would never have come to pass.

But you didn't.

This is all I intend to say; I truly have nothing left to offer, sorry.
Sam Alvarez4 Sam Alvarez4 Regular
303 messages
joined Sep 2014
#17 ·
I get why we shouldn't meddle.
But...
When they start pushing the exact same lies on the World PDF right after the session on religion... enough is enough.
It's a lie that's incredibly easy to fact-check, btw.

And then they have the nerve to complain? Honestly... 🙄
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#18 ·
Grace Kim80 said:That’s really all I have to say about this, I’m honestly tapped out, sorry.

And that is more than enough, thanks. The partial grade stands.

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