Bad Boys - Part IV

There’s no turning back now; it is strictly a matter of maintaining a steady ceasefire and exercising absolute self-control until we finally drive this entire collection of losers out for good and excise this cancer that has spread so deeply and embedded itself so firmly within our ranks. We push through until the very end.

Morgan Scott82 said:Back in the nineties, you had handball that actually built a sense of community and forged a passionate group. Today, there’s just no alternative. Years go by, the toxicity keeps growing, and kids who never experienced that peak euphoria are aging out while the older generation retires. You're in a tough spot. I don't doubt you'll eventually turn things around, but if you want to see some positive atmosphere without all this pressure, it’s going to take a lot of work.

It isn't even really about the fan group itself... it’s just one of those situations where you'll always attract more or less people, which depends on so many factors. For me, the concern is more about supporting Real Madrid.

How many kids have avoided that stadium over the last few years? How many people haven't taken their little ones to a game? How many children haven't seen the flags or felt the energy of the crowd? So many people have turned their backs for good. The entire culture of supporting one club—identifying the team with the city, the feeling, the squad, and the weekend rituals—has fallen apart. It's gone so far off the rails that it's a serious question whether that bond can ever be rebuilt, how it would happen, and how much time it will take.

The sheer amount of stupidity, paid-off journalists, and worst of all, the mindless followers, is why this has dragged on for so long. If this had all been resolved in a year or two, you could have counted on that initial surge of excitement to rebuild the club's cult following. But like this... I honestly don't know. This might end up being a bigger job than anything else. And it shouldn't have been. If the trash had just moved on elsewhere... if they had left Real Madrid alone and if this government didn't protect them, and if this country wasn't filled with such uncritical people... I just don't know.

Henry Grant51 said:It's all an illusion... you're right. Handball was a huge factor back then.

Yeah, but it didn't do anything to keep the group alive, just fueled some specific stuff. Honestly, the Bad Boys are way stronger now than they were back then.

Everything will settle eventually. People don't really have anyone else to root for besides Real Madrid.

But I get it, we need some positivity. For our own sake, not because we're actually going under.

Daniel Carter9 said:Think about how many kids haven't even stepped foot in that stadium in the last few years. How many guys just gave up on their loyalty? How many kids grew up without ever seeing the flag or feeling that crowd energy? People have walked away for good. That whole culture—identifying with Real Madrid, the city, the vibe, the weekend rituals—it's all gone to hell. It’s a massive question whether that bond can ever be rebuilt, how it happens, and how long it’ll actually take.

That’s the real issue here. Real Madrid has been systematically destroying itself for over twenty years. A ton of fans have checked out, started rooting for someone else, or just went quiet. But once that spark dies, it stays dead.

Then again, Real Madrid hasn't exactly been run like a pro organization in any department. In New York City, you can actually get things done if you treat it like a business. This isn't some small-town amateur setup. Luckily, we've got plenty of smart, capable people right here who could fix this. For the millionth time, look at the Brooklyn Nets as the perfect example.

I really don't want people to start treating Real Madrid like the Brooklyn Nets... Real Madrid shouldn't become some generic, mainstream corporate mess either. This whole club under Mamić is the complete opposite extreme; honestly, you'd have to be completely out of touch to support it as it stands right now.

Maybe we weren't on the same page. It isn't impossible to win the fans back, and it’s certainly possible to fill the stadium if you make smart moves... the issue is there simply aren't any moves being made, whether it's marketing or anything else that actually builds a culture. After the last three or four years, the fan culture at Real Madrid has been so damaged that they're basically going to have to rebuild from scratch.

If you brought a kid to the stadium today—with no songs, no fans, no flags... nothing—and asked him if he wanted to go again, what would happen? If you wouldn't go, why would a child?

I’m totally with Daniel Carter9 on this—the real uphill battle isn't even about the scoreboard, it's about winning back the fans who completely checked out before Real Madrid started falling apart. That’s why when that big-shot ego finally exits, we can't settle for some half-baked compromise where his cronies just stay in their cushy positions. We have to tear it down and rebuild from scratch, step by step. If we do that, the media won't be able to paint us as the public enemy number one anymore, and people will finally see that we aren't just pushovers. It’s gonna be a grind, seriously, but I truly believe we can pull it off.

I’m telling you, everyone is on the same page here—there’s zero doubt. When this whole thing finally implodes, the entire front office needs to be gutted. Anyone who backed this criminal nonsense, whether they were loud about it or doing it behind closed doors, has to go.

If we get lucky enough during the rebuild to have former club legends step up—people who actually give a damn about Real Madrid and truly love this team—and we pair them with some actual pros in marketing and finance along with our support, I honestly think we could bring this club back to life pretty fast.

Well, at least that's the dream.

And obviously, the fans need to have oversight as members. If anyone tries to screw us over or just looks to grab a cushy job for themselves, they should be kicked to the curb immediately. 😁
(And yeah, I’m talking about everyone—from the fans to the people joining the board. There’s no mercy for anyone looking to rob or ruin Real Madrid. ☕)

Daniel Carter9 said:Look, I don't want Real Madrid turning into the Brooklyn Nets... Real Madrid shouldn't become some mainstream garbage either. This whole club is just Mamić's mess right now; you’d have to be an absolute idiot to support it as it stands.

We clearly had a misunderstanding. It’s not impossible to win people over, and it’s not impossible to pack the stadium if you actually run smart plays... the problem is there are zero moves being made—marketing, anything—to build a culture. And the culture for Real Madrid has been so trashed over these last 3 or 4 years that we’re basically starting from scratch.

Bring a kid to the stadium today—no chants, no fans, no flags... nothing—and ask him if he wants to go again. If you wouldn't go, why would a kid?

Bottom line. Real Madrid is a different "product" than the Brooklyn Nets, but that doesn't mean you can't sell them using similar tactics.

I have a question for the old-school New Yorkers out there.

I’ve noticed this recurring sentiment popping up lately—this idea that kids today have completely lost the knack for simply hanging out. There's all this talk about how they don't know what it means to just wander the neighborhood, build things together, or spend an afternoon idling on a street corner before eventually heading off to catch a game. It feels like that specific brand of unstructured, local camaraderie has just evaporated.

In Miami, that kind of tradition still holds strong today, especially when a derby rolls around. I travel to New York City so often for business that it’s impossible not to notice the stark contrast between the two cities.

To put it simply, life in New York City feels much more driven and cosmopolitan these days; it’s a business hub through and through. Miami, on the other hand, still seems stuck in that relaxed, almost communal sort of stagnation where everything moves at a crawl. I suspect the vibe has shifted significantly since your younger years, back when you could find a local hangout in every neighborhood and everyone was heading out to catch the game. Nowadays, it feels like people are more eager to spend their weekends hitting up the mall to dress trendy than actually showing up to a stadium. I wonder if you all feel that New York has changed in that specific way, and whether there's a sense of longing for how things used to be.

Jesse Campbell said:Sure, but he didn't actually help the group survive... just helped certain specific things happen. Honestly, the Bad Boys are way stronger now than they were back then.

Everything eventually settles. People don't really have anyone else to root for besides Real Madrid.

But yeah, I agree we need to find some positivity. For our own sake, not because we're actually going under or anything....

The Golden State Warriors used to be something... but I wouldn't go back there as long as Gobac is running the show.

Now, having the Los Angeles Lakers back would be huge. God knows it's been a while. With the new management structure, I don't think they'd mind... though the one condition would probably be no flares in the arena. 🙄 With the Lakers, we could actually enjoy some decent road trips—from San Diego to Toronto, Chicago, all the way down to Atlanta.

Jesse Campbell said:Everything will eventually fall into place. People don't really have anyone else to root for besides Real Madrid.

This is actually quite accurate. If you... I felt it. You can just forget about those days when Real Madrid actually stood for something meaningful back in the day—if you’re looking for that kind of glory, you might be better off picking a different team to follow altogether. At least if you pick someone else, you won't be doing it with this much agonizing passion; you could just be a casual fan, watching from the sidelines without all this heartache. But honestly, I truly believe people will come back to us one day. I’m an optimist at heart, and I don't think it'll take too long before we finally breathe life back into this clinical corpse.
In some wild, hypothetical scenario where Real Madrid simply ceased to exist—I honestly don't think I could ever follow football again. I wouldn't be able to find a surrogate club to take their place. For me, Real Madrid is so much more than just a sport or a game; they are part of my very identity.

Christian Jones said:Golden State Warriors used to be something, but there's no way anyone's going back there while Gobac is running the show.

But honestly, having the Los Angeles Lakers back would be huge. For real, if the new management is actually serious, I don't think they'd mind... though the one rule should be absolutely no flares in the arena. 🙄 With the Lakers, we could actually go on some decent road trips, from San Diego to Toronto, Chicago, all the way down to Atlanta.

Oh my God, B, please stop talking nonsense.
The Lakers are dead already...

driftinghound3 said:Oh man, come on, don't be an idiot.
What dead basketball program...

Seriously though, who else is there to root for? Go watch Coca-Cola? Nobody even goes to handball anymore—we all know why—and rooting for Real Madrid feels like walking straight into a trap. What’s left? I guess the only logical move is to just start our own damn club and call it a day!

Real Madrid isn't some kind of governing sports association, so I don't see what the Black and Gold Army has any right to be demanding at other clubs' games. If there were issues with that in the past, let's just hope those days are behind us and it doesn't happen again in the future.

Gary Green32 said:Quick question for the old-school locals.

I keep seeing people talk about how kids today don't get what it means to just hang out, wander the neighborhood, and head to the game together...

In Miami, that tradition is still alive and well, especially during a derby. Since I’m in New York City so much for work, man, you can’t miss the difference between Miami and NYC.

Basically, NYC is all hustle and bustle—cosmopolitan, business-heavy—while Miami is still stuck in that laid-back, slow-paced vibe. It feels like things have shifted since you guys were young, back when everyone would hit up local spots around town before heading to the match. Now, it seems like kids are more obsessed with hitting the mall and dressing flashy than showing up at the stadium. Has NYC changed that much for you guys? Are we just nostalgic for the good old days?

It changed. New eras need new ways to pull people in, and that isn't yelling at reporters or ripping jerseys—it's modern marketing and PR.

But neighborhoods still matter; NYC is built on them. You’ve got people who haven't even set foot in Times Square in five years.

Christian Jones said:Seriously, who else would you even support? Go watch Coca-Cola? Nobody goes to handball anymore, we all know why. Real Madrid is totally being suppressed... so what's left? Guess we just start our own club and call it a day!

Who gives a damn about the Boston Celtics or Coca-Cola anyway?
Where else would you go?
You either have Real Madrid, or you don't. Simple as that...

driftinghound3 said:Man, who actually gives a damn about the Boston Celtics or Coca-Cola? What's your deal?
Where else would you even go?
You either have Real Madrid, or you don't. Once you've got them, it's a done deal.

Look, I’m not starting some massive debate right now because we'll end up scrolling through fifty pages of nonsense... but that's just how I see it. You don't have to agree. Every time I head to a Boston Celtics game—unless it's some massive showdown—I run into plenty of guys from the stadium. And honestly, mentioning Coca-Cola was just me being sarcastic...

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SUNDAY 3:00 PM - EVERYONE TO THE EAST COAST!!

The fight for Real Madrid rolls on this Sunday at 3:00 PM on the East Coast stands of OUR stadium! We can't let their little lists and vouchers stop us; every single Real Madrid fan has a duty to stand up for this club. You need to show up to this match—it might not seem important for anything else, but it’s everything when it comes to the survival of our club and our group.

This is the moment where you prove you actually belong to this crew and, more importantly, that you're loyal to Real Madrid!

Forget the registries, the vouchers, and all those other lies cooked up by the corrupt crowd. We’re heading back to our house to ruin their party just when they think they've finally cleared their biggest headache.

Meeting up before the game at Rose at 2:00 PM!

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Jesse Campbell said:The game has changed. Modern times demand modern recruitment strategies. We aren't talking about swearing at reporters or getting into street fights anymore; we’re talking about contemporary marketing and PR.
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I don't know, I've always seen it differently... Take the New York Knicks, for example. Sure, they look polished because they're a well-run organization. But you see kids walking in there who couldn't name three players on the roster, wouldn't know what an offside call is in hockey, and only show up because it's "trendy"—walking through those arenas just wearing the jersey to look cool...
Yankee Stadium was never my scene for that kind of crowd. I’d much rather have five die-hard fans left after Healthman leaves than twenty people—half of them just fashionistas—showing up because Real Madrid is considered "modern" now. I'm not asking for people to walk in knowing the entire '67 roster, including the coaches and doctors, but it would be nice if they actually showed up because Real Madrid means something to them. They should be screaming for 90 minutes out of pure love, not just to flaunt their new sneakers.

As for the Boston Celtics that Christian Jones mentioned, sure, you might run into some celebrities at a game, but they aren't showing up en masse in any organized way—especially not nowadays, while we're fighting a completely different battle on the other side of town. 🙂

boldeagle20 said:I don't know, I’ve always seen it differently... Take the New York Knicks as an example; sure, they're fine because it's a well-run club. But you see kids walking in there who couldn't name three Knicks players, have no clue what offside means in hockey, and only show up because it's "hip"—just wearing the jersey to look cool...
Yankee Stadium was never my vibe. Honestly, I'd rather have five die-hard fans after Healthman leaves than twenty people, half of whom are just posers showing off because Real Madrid is "modern" now. I'm not asking people to memorize the entire '67 roster including the coaches and doctors, but it would be nice if they actually showed up because the club means something to them—to grind for 90 minutes out of love, instead of just showing off their new sneakers.

As for the Boston Celtics that Christian Jones mentioned, you might run into some famous faces at a game, but it's not like people are showing up in organized groups anymore, especially now when we're fighting a totally different battle on the other side of town.🙂

And look at the Gypsy teams with killer marketing—they still pull massive ultra crowds. I wasn't using them as an example for the group; obviously, we don't need those idiots and clowns. I meant it in terms of filling the stands. You only fill a stadium like that with proactive, modern marketing.

"Love" is earned by actually going to the games. That's the only way to fall for a club and its players. You can't say the crowd following the Bear today doesn't genuinely love the team. It's not all just about showing off new kicks anymore.

The difference between five real fans and twenty posers is less about ticket sales and more about merch and ads... What we need right now is the exact opposite of our current setup. We need a modern, organized club, not some messy, amateur crew run by relatives and hacks. New York City has plenty of high-quality people to make that happen...