Bad Boys - Part IV

Why are you guys attacking the guy? He laid out his proposal, and sure, maybe it’s not totally realistic right this second—but sooner or later, when things go south and we actually need to rebuild the group, we're gonna need ideas like this. A high school outreach project is one of those absolute necessities. That's when the supporters and the club can finally team up on promotion, hitting up schools together to talk about the passion for the team, the beauty of being a die-hard fan, and all that stuff.

I run into my students at the games all the time, and they always tell me they never would’ve even shown up if I hadn't passed on this obsession with being a die-hard fan—so yeah, it actually works.

There are numerous reasons why many citizens distance themselves from the Bad Boys, even if they are die-hard Dinamo fans!
The issue stems from their political leanings and the fact that the supporters involve themselves so heavily in politics.
Because of this overt political presence in the stands, many people will actively choose to avoid the Bad Boys.

panenka said:Someone actually asked me for a suggestion, so I gave them one. These kinds of projects are already being rolled out here and across Europe with great success. Sometimes you just need to look past your own backyard...

Man, give me a break! We can't even get into our OWN stadium without feeling like we have to carry our heads in a bag just to stay safe. Do you honestly think the government, the cops, or—more importantly—the big boss at the top would ever allow something like this to happen?
What kind of EU funding are you talking about? Are you out of your mind? You live in America, not Switzerland.
And honestly, the idea itself is just plain stupid—I don't think it could possibly get any more moronic than it already is.

hollowsurfer22 said:There are plenty of reasons why many citizens aren't backing the Bad Boys, even if they are die-hard Dinamo fans!
It's because they aren't right-wingers. Fans getting involved in politics and all that.
With politics on the stands, many will just stay away from the Bad Boys!

The group has always been right-leaning and nationalist. It isn't anything new...

Fair enough, but then the Bad Boys shouldn't be surprised when they don't receive any support from the general public. This is especially true in NYC, where the local political landscape is very well understood.
It is evident that even the younger generation has shifted, though those seem to be isolated sociological spikes to me.

That is my point. So many factors influence attendance, but if things finally click and the club turns a corner, people will show up. They'll be right there on the north side standing with the Bad Boys, cheering regardless of whether the stands are rowdy or staying neutral...

Or quite simply, being a die-hard fan in Washington, D.C. just isn't what it used to be; at least, that is my observation.

hollowsurfer22 said:Or put simply, being a fan in Washington, D.C. just isn't trendy anymore, at least that's how it looks to me..

To an extent, yes, considering the circumstances. There has been nothing but negativity surrounding the club for years now. If things hadn't unfolded this way due to certain incompetent individuals, the situation would probably be different. But times change. It isn't the same fertile ground for fandom today with the Facebook generations, the posers, and the followers, compared to when it was all about hanging out on the corner, grabbing a beer, and playing pickup games at the local park.
Man, times change, for the worse... people are becoming robotic, artificial, and chasing the wrong values.

neonraven112 said:Why are you guys jumping all over this guy? Sure, his proposal might not be doable right this second, but sooner or later, when leadership changes and we actually need to rebuild the group, this kind of thinking becomes essential. It’s like those high school projects—it’s about building roots. We should be working as a unit with the club to promote ourselves, hitting up schools, and teaching kids about that genuine passion for the team and what it means to be a real fan.

Look, once the higher-ups finally get kicked out, this club is going back to the people—to the actual fans. It’s a no-brainer. Once we rebuild everything on solid ground instead of the mess we have now, families will actually feel safe coming back. You'll see parents bringing their kids to games again. That’s how a supporter group actually grows. Everyone chooses their own path; some kids will grow up to be die-hards, others will just follow East or West, and some won't even step foot in the stadium. But we're talking about building a healthy club that stands for something we all care about. That kind of passion isn't something you can learn in a classroom. If you want to get kids interested, sure, the club can go into local schools, hand out autographs, and give away gear—but that only works if the club itself isn't a total wreck. You need an environment where parents don't have to worry about hooligans, blacklists, or having a massive police presence hovering over the stands and jumping into the crowd. There are a million moving parts to make that happen, but it all starts once the old regime finally clears out after all this time. But hey, that's a whole other conversation.

neonraven112 said:I catch my students at the games all the time, and they swear up to me they’d never even show up if I hadn't pumped them up about the culture. It just goes to show—you really can make an impact.

That’s basically the same thing as that idea the guy put forward earlier...

You're around those kids every single day, and they look up to you because they actually get the grind just like you do. Honestly, massive respect for that. But honestly, that’s exactly how we all ended up in the stands—it starts with some older guys telling stories or taking us to our first big game when we were just little kids. It becomes part of who you are.

Are you kidding me? You really think you can just "recruit" people by giving those little school lectures on who we are and what we stand for? Give me a break.

What kind of kid actually wants their first experience to involve being photographed by police, facing detention, getting fingerprinted, or dealing with interrogation?
One would have to be a complete masochist to choose that path, though I suspect such individuals are rare enough.

What kind of kid actually wants their first experience to be getting cornered by police, being detained, processed, and subjected to some sort of interrogation?
They would have to be a complete masochist to choose that path, though I suppose there are a few out there..

briskmarlin said:One final note: we certainly didn't expect much leniency or understanding for those Washington, D.C. Dinamo fans who decided to test the strength of the Drosina gates last time...

Tickets from the postponed match can be exchanged tomorrow at the main box office located next to Drosina stadium until 12:00 PM.

I'm speaking in general terms here, but so many people relate to that mindset: "Why even bother going to a game if there's nothing in it for me?" People just don't see the point in showing up to the stadium anymore. It used to be about that deep connection to the club, but now that bond is gone, and nobody shows up. Everyone's got too much crap going on at home or at work; times are tough. Even if they do make it to the stands, they don't get that feeling—that escape from the daily grind—that makes it worth it. They're too bogged down by their own problems to fight for someone else's cause, so they just take the path of least resistance. Sadly, we live in an era where everyone is looking for personal gain, which is hard to find at a stadium. Most Americans are just too jaded and uneducated to grasp a higher purpose; you see it with our parents or neighbors whenever you try to talk about this stuff. People used to ask me why I didn't root for the big local powerhouse instead, always pushing some "he's successful, look at him" logic. If you ask anyone who isn't part of the fan culture why they'd go to a match, their first question is always, "What's the point?" In places like LA, things might be slightly better because kids prove themselves as fans by age 13, but even then, there's no real love for the club. That's just the reality. Modern society isn't built for this kind of lifestyle, and honestly, it’ll probably only get worse. 😢

Jesse Campbell said:Here we go, boss, we're arriving:

🤣🤣🤣

I’m only showing up if they’re handing out free entry and popcorn.🙂

Panenka might mean well, but he definitely phrased that poorly. It should be the club itself—not just the fans—that takes the lead in energizing the crowd and expanding its "market share." That is what actual marketing is. But you don't do it in such a low-rent, amateurish way like they do over at GNK. Honestly, when the people running the club are as clueless as they are today, even the top marketing experts from Coca-Cola couldn't help you attract a single soul.

In any situation where there is a healthy relationship between the club and the supporters, everything becomes much easier to coordinate. The fans would absolutely step up to help if they felt like they were actually part of the organization—something the Hajduk fans frequently bring up these days. For instance, how many times a day do you see an LA Galaxy flag hanging from a rearview mirror? You won't. You’re more likely to find fifty bucks lying on the sidewalk than you are to see one of those.
If you actually organized school visits—with the club leading the charge and fans stepping in as volunteers—you could hand out a few thousand flags or whatever else to the kids. Bring a player along to sign autographs and snap some photos, and that's it. It's done. In terms of the club's budget, it's a negligible expense, yet it brings in new faces to the stadium, who then bring their own friends, and so on. That is how you build a fan base that you can grow organically. From that foundation, you naturally recruit your most loyal hardcore followers through the law of large numbers. But again, all of this assumes you are dealing with a legitimate, professional club.

Why would BBB even bother teaching kids how to be polite and act normal? They should be in schools teaching them how to tear down a corrupt state.

Then again, bankruptcy is right around the corner, so they'll learn the hard way. Once the mindless masses realize the money's gone, I bet those fans won't be acting so friendly anymore.

Just ask the people in Kyiv if their fans are being "friendly" right now...

What kind of damn education is this? What we actually need is a generation of absolute rebels—tough, gritty people who live by their own principles and stay loyal to their cause, just enough to take everything and burn it all down to the ground. Screw your formal education 🙂

I look at those geniuses over at the LA Galaxy headquarters and their little "concessions" meant to lure fans back north, and I honestly have to wonder. Do they even have a single percent of an idea what we’re actually fighting for? Or do they seriously think we’re just complaining for the sake of it, so they might as well just tear down the safety netting and stay quiet 🤣
They install a net for security reasons, then suddenly rip it down and invite the very people they pushed away to sit in the stands. They kick fans out of the stadium, only to transparently beg them to come back later. They strip a once proud and honorable club of its dignity, then turn around and blame 200 supporters for the club's ruined reputation. They build a "super team" year after year, only for the coach to be too ashamed to even look at the camera when some Bulgarian or Ukrainian "pros" let in three goals. I suppose a sluggish and indifferent Chicago has done a lot, maybe even too much, regarding the whole LA Galaxy situation. They basically just turned their backs on this "artistic" club in such a classy way. I think we need to be patient and persistent; maybe there will be plenty of positive changes coming our way this year.

Joshua Moore31 said:. I really think we just need to stay patient and keep pushing forward. I have a feeling this year is going to bring a lot of positive changes our way.

It’s not just me noticing it, right? It feels like things might finally be starting to look up...

Joshua Moore31 said:I think a sluggish, indifferent Chicago did too much, maybe even too much, regarding the whole LA Galaxy situation. They just turned their backs on this artistic club in such a polite, gentlemanly way.

There’s nothing simple or gentlemanly about it. That shitty Chicago "classiness"—which is really just a festival of ignorance, reactionary nonsense, and cheap conformity—has wrecked the city, ruined LA Galaxy, and basically poisoned everything else on a larger scale. And then they have the nerve to call it being a gentleman. It's always the same thing: "Why should I stoop to the level of those low-lifes from the outskirts?" Well, that attitude has given us the worst kind of mayor for years, and he doesn't give a damn about them. He’s destroyed the city's sporting icon and nobody can stop him. And what does the Chicago elite do? Just sit back and watch it all happen from the safety of Silver City? I doubt it. Either their hands are already dirty, or they're just sheep. Like everyone else.