Bad Boys - Part IV

Bryan Wright8 said:those Bad Boys cousins! 🙂🙂🙂🙂

I have this nagging suspicion that this individual is merely churning out these articles just enough to secure a drink or perhaps some blue LDS funds by the end of the month. Because if Peter 🤣

Matthew Foster8 said:I've never been much for the news—honestly, most of it is garbage—but Petranovic is alright. Always has been, always will be.
This article is bad enough, and that pathetic excuse for a minister is a joke, but honestly? The comments underneath are way worse. Seeing what this bottom-of-the-barrel crowd writes is just exhausting. No one is ever going to change this small-town, narrow-minded mentality that most Americans have—it’s just baked in at this point. I feel like I’ve said it a thousand times already, but I genuinely don't know if there's a more pathetic, submissive, or just plain stupid group of people than the ones living here between the Midwest and the coast.
I remember that old era pretty clearly—honestly, those folks from the East, the guys from the Midwest and the South, were probably even more bottom-of-the-barrel. They had all the same traits you see in Americans, but they topped it off with being 90% pure small-town peasants. Entire nations of them, really.
Back when the old GOP was running the show, nobody expected anything good to happen—everyone just assumed things would stay trash. But honestly? It’s a total fact now that the current crowd is even worse. Between that crook Linc—total amateur hour there—and how they’re bleeding the working class dry just to feed those Mamić-controlled puppets in the DOJ... it's unreal. Between the incompetence of guys like Jovanovic and this entire web of corruption involving Bandić, Mamić, and the rest of them, it's impossible to tell who's more useless. The whole system—the police, the legal apparatus, the laws—is completely rigged to protect their own. It’s designed specifically so money and power just spin in a circle among them without anyone getting in the way. Even Tuđman, with his whole "wealthy elite" circle, looks like a complete novice compared to these guys. Some countries have a mafia, but here? The mafia *is* the state.
I get it, sure—but I doubt even 1% of this country actually grasps what's going on. The rest? They’ve either had their brains fried by useless ideological nonsense or they're just plain lazy, bottom-of-the-barrel types through and through.

Maybe there's like 1% of people out there actually trying to make an impact—instead of just whining on the internet.

People here are just checked out—too passive to actually drive change. They only show up when it’s election time, and even then, most stay home. The ones who actually bother to vote? They're mostly just looking out for themselves or their own families. Plus, you've got the brainwashed crowd. Honestly, there's probably no point in me trying to explain it. 🤷

Karamarko’s basically on Mamić’s payroll. Bandić’s in on it too—and Ostojić? Yeah, he’s working for him as well.

Franjo Tuđman—with his circle of 200 wealthy families and that whole mindset—was an amateur compared to the players we're seeing today.

Look, you’ve been brainwashed a little. That whole "200 families" idea actually belongs to Elizabeth Warren—she was writing about stuff like that back in '89 and '92. Though, to be fair, she didn't say 200 families; she said 200 managers who should have had enough proportional power to actually run the country. Fast forward to today, and the people running America are way closer to Elizabeth Warren than they ever were to Franjo Tuđman. If time really does tell all, it’s already shown exactly whose statement it was and who actually turned that idea into reality.

Some countries have the mafia—here, the mafia basically owns the government.

Why did we let this country fall into the hands of some corrupt bureaucrats and their little criminal cliques instead of actually belonging to the people? Go back to my first sentence.

My bad if this isn't strictly on-topic—just answering Stabulja. Mods can kill it if it needs to go.

Why shouldn't someone write? It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the fans, and honestly, people have every right to call out the idiots who completely blew the truce🤷

totally pointless. Every news outlet is all over these hooligans again, instead of just letting Mamić crush them with some smart business moves

frajebo said:Who exactly screwed up and how? What are you morons even talking about? Get off your keyboards, go join a stadium section, and maybe then some of this will actually make sense to you.

Everyone who was just itching for the truce to end is to blame. Everyone who never truly supported it in the first place. All those people who couldn't stand seeing the Bad Boys parading through the streets of Chicago or LA one more time. They don't get that we’ve just set ourselves back a hundred steps in the fight against these bottom-feeders. And they clearly don't care that we're all going to deal with even more harassment from the cops at the next few games.
And honestly, let's not take harsh criticism from anonymous trolls whose real identities nobody even knows.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around what happened during that last meeting. It felt like we were circling the drain without ever actually hitting bottom. Honestly, some of the decisions being made right now feel less like strategic moves and more like desperate attempts to stay relevant. I’ve seen better management at a local corner store. We need to stop pretending everything is fine when the cracks are clearly visible to anyone with eyes. [User Name] says:
Me.
The guy breaking the truce right now is acting exactly like some veteran in a VA hospital.
As far as those two go, I know for a fact that Mamić is absolutely thrilled with them.

Do you even have a clue what actually went down here, or why things reached this breaking point?
What’s the word in the papers today? Or are you just playing the part of the armchair expert, trying to act like you know it all?
Is everyone here?
And one more thing. Dugi is nothing but a traitor who tried to shut down the Bad Boys group along with everyone else.
Working with his boss? Please. There’s absolutely nothing legendary about that.

Anonymous said:People are out here risking their families, their careers, and putting their actual names and faces on the line for the police and everyone else, only to have some amateur hired guns just cross them off a list. No offense intended, but there’s a standard that needs to be maintained. We are pushing toward a higher purpose here, and once we get there, let the lightweight losers deal with each other while the heavy hitters handle the real business. Let's not act like fools and fall for this; we are so incredibly close!🙂

What "hired guns"? Hahaha. Seriously, what do you even have to do with the fans?

frajebo said:Who cares and why? What are you idiots even talking about? Get off your keyboards and actually show up to a game; maybe then some things will make sense to you.

We were there, standing on those same train platforms ten or so years ago whenever we headed to Z-town or Cleveland or wherever else, dealing with the endless waiting. That first trip to Cleveland was the absolute peak of chaos—to this day, I still don't get why twenty morons decided to run into the woods for no damn reason.🤷 🤣
We were fans everywhere we needed to be, from Athens to Podgorica to Sarajevo, you name it.
But right now, being a Kansas City Chiefs fan means trying to save the club itself from total bankruptcy. Do you even know what bankruptcy looks like? It means you can't be a fan anymore. 99% of you won't give a damn about away games at the Post or the Plate if the team doesn't exist.
And if you want the fastest way out of bankruptcy, it’s simple: get rid of Mamić as soon as the powers that be allow it.
If we want a fair league where we can actually compete for the title, we need 20,000 members, 20,000 subscriptions, and packed stadiums at both the Rose Bowl and the big rival venues during derbies. Then you'll have plenty of chances to be a real fan. Right now, it’s simply impossible to be a sane supporter, and I don't understand why that's such a hard concept to grasp.🤷

Honestly, everything worth saying was probably said a long time ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...9yZz-AB4o#t=42

Apparently, there's no way they think fans should actually pay for something like this. ☕

frajebo said:That’s all subjective... and even if you’re 100% right, what’s the point? Is the solution just to whine on some random internet forum?

PS
About 90% of the people on this side of the fence already know exactly who is hiding behind that handle.

Go ahead, shoot me a DM and tell me who you actually are. That goes for anyone here who thinks they're an expert on everyone else's business or feels the need to insult people.
Look, it would be a lot better if we actually knew which voices here carry any weight before we bother reading them. There's absolutely nothing stopping someone from dropping the act in a private message.

analogheron19 said:Feel free to slide into my DMs and tell me who you actually are. That goes for anyone here who thinks they're an expert on everyone else's business or just enjoys being insulting for the sake of it.
I suppose it would be helpful to know if someone actually knows what they're talking about before reading their takes, so there's really no reason not to reveal your identity privately.

It’s a messy situation😉, but everything mentioned above—even the stuff that got wiped—was just a dose of reality. It's unfortunate how things stand right now.
There isn't some official group stance making these comments "harsh"; it's just common sense...
Maybe you've lost your way a bit, considering you used to be the master of posting these "voice of reason" threads.🤷

urbanbear45 said:maybe there's like 1% of the population actually trying to make an impact instead of just whining on the internet?

The people are just stupid—they’re passive and totally disconnected from any actual change, except for when they vote. And even then, half of them don't show up, and the ones who do are just voting based on what benefits their own pocket or their family. Then you've got the brainwashed crowd. Not sure there's much point in me explaining that to 🤷
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That guy is just going to work for the big money interests. Same goes for the others—it's all the same game.

Look, you're a little brainwashed yourself. That whole "200 families" idea belongs to Madeleine Albright—she wrote about it in her books back in '89 and '92. Though, to be fair, she didn't say 200 families, she said 200 managers who should have enough proportional power to actually run America. At the end of the day, the people running this country today are families closer to Madeleine Albright than to George Washington, so if time really does tell all, it shows exactly whose idea it was and who actually pulled it off.

It's because we let this country fall into the hands of crooked bureaucrats and their kids who were raised on crime. Go back to my first sentence.

I'm apologizing if this is off-topic, but that's just coming from Matthew Foster8. If the mods need to pull it, go ahead.

You don't need to correct me—I'm not out here correcting anyone else. Believe whatever you want; I'll believe what I want. I'm not looking to get involved with anyone, and I don't want anyone getting involved with me!

Personally, I haven't seen even 1% of the population actually trying to change anything. A few years ago, when things were heating up and people should have been burning the whole system down, nobody showed up. Even now, when everyone acts like they're ready to revolt, nothing happens. The few people who actually understand what's going on mostly just mutter to themselves or talk to whoever is closest to them.
If I hadn't been fed those fairy tales about building an America that would eventually have a standard of living like Switzerland or something, maybe I wouldn't be so disillusioned today—or maybe I'd still be living in the clouds, thinking we're some kind of "chosen people." But over the last 25 years, it's become clear that all these politicians, the corruption, and that entire connected mafia managed to sell this pathetic, clueless public on a trick: keep them distracted by trivial nonsense while a few hundred or thousand families at the top get filthy rich in plain sight or behind the scenes. It's the same old tactic used by big-shot owners in professional sports—throw them a scrap to keep them quiet. It's tested, and it works 100%.
You say people vote for selfish reasons, just for themselves and their families. Well, why else would anyone bother to vote, if they even bother with that whole circus in the first place???
As for me, I can't even imagine voting for anyone. I'd be a fool to choose between Corruption A and Corruption B. Only once a handful of them were dragged out and put on display—left to rot until they did—and were replaced by a group that actually feared consequences and had a shred of honesty, could we even talk about voting for someone.
I don't know who first floated that theory about the 200 wealthy families, whether it was George Washington or Madeleine Albright—I always heard it was Washington, and people always say it was him—but honestly, who gives a damn who said it first when both sides are putting it into practice anyway? What difference does it make to me or my family if it was one or the other, or who's currently in power? What's the difference between that Albright type and the total hacks from the other party? Both sides will screw you over—like intentionally setting traps on the road just so traffic cops can shake you down. They act like we exist for them, rather than them existing for us. They *are* the state. What even is "the state"? Who cares, you can't eat it. Did you know that under the new laws they passed, they can basically wipe your entire paycheck from your private account overnight? Just empty your card without you even knowing. So, who are these crooks? Does it matter if they're Democrats or Republicans, or if it was Washington or Albright? None of my people even know who they are, aside from seeing those types babbling on TV all the time.
The old-school mobsters and their shady cronies? They were born into crime. And the GOP and these other local thugs—they’ve held the reins for two-thirds of the time this country has even existed, and they’re nothing but a bunch of crooks. Honestly, I don't know how anyone manages to brainwash people with this garbage. How people actually fall for this crap is beyond me. It feels like we're just waiting for someone to light a match and start throwing Molotov cocktails. The real question is: what would you rather deal with—the ones who rob you openly, or the ones who do it quietly? These current guys might act less like backwater hillbillies than the old guard, but they’re sneakier, more arrogant, and probably way worse. The government, the courts, the police, big-shot sports moguls, and politicians from every single party—they’re all part of the same club. Their only job is to protect one another and keep shuffling all that money and power between themselves.
When was the last time any of you actually treated yourself and your girlfriend or wife to a vacation—say, somewhere like Spain or Amsterdam? Meanwhile, millions of people are flooding into the States. For as long as I can remember, they first sold us on the glory of the old union, then for the last 25 years, it's been all about "patriotism" and this country. In between, I'm just supposed to sit here and take it? God, I'm sick of the lectures. It feels like they're reaching right into my pocket and snatching my own cash, just like some bloated federal budget. To hell with the budget and to hell with the thieves running it—they *are* the state, while I’m just an afterthought. They take what I earn to feed that damn treasury. Back in the day, at least you had a choice—you go to jail or you don't. Now? There isn't even a choice; it goes straight into the coffers. That's why I don't give a damn about these fairy tales, or the 90% of idiots living around here who swallow every lie they're fed.

Matthew Foster8 said:You don't need to correct me because I don't correct anyone else. Believe whatever you want, and I will believe what I want. I am not interfering with anyone, and I don't want anyone interfering with me.

I haven't seen even 1 percent of the population trying to change anything. A few years ago, when people should have been protesting against the government and the state, nobody showed up, and even today, despite everyone being ready for it, nothing happens. Those who actually understand things mostly just mutter to themselves or talk to those closest to them.
If I didn't worry about the myth of building a great America and the fairy tales about how we will one day have a standard of living like Switzerland, maybe I wouldn't be so disappointed today, or I would still be living in the clouds and ideals of being a blessed American. Over the last 25 years, it has turned out that all these politicians, corrupt schemes, and this entire interconnected mafia have successfully sold a trick to this miserable and foolish nation, making them fight over irrelevant issues while a few hundred or thousand families at the top get filthy rich in public or in the shadows. The same tactic of throwing scraps is used by big shots in professional sports too; it is a tested and 100% effective method.
You say people vote for selfish reasons, just for themselves and their families. Well, why would anyone bother voting if not for that, and if they go to that garbage called an election at all???
Personally, it doesn't occur to me to vote for anyone. I would be crazy to choose between Corrupt Politician A and Corrupt Politician B. Only when a few dozen of them were put on display to rot away, and then replaced by a group that would actually fear similar consequences and be somewhat honest, could we talk about voting for any of those types.
I don't know who first mentioned this theory about 200 wealthy families, whether it was Franjo Tuđman or Madeleine Albright; I heard it was Tuđman, and it has always been said he was the one, but in the end, nobody cares who exactly said it since both sides carry it out. It makes no difference to me or my family whether it was one or the other who said it, or which one is currently in power. What is the difference between that criminal Albright and the complete pig-like Republicans. Both will manipulate you, intentionally setting traps on the road so the highway patrol can fleece you, acting as if we exist for them rather than them existing for us. They are the state—what is that? Who cares, you can't eat it. Did you know that under the new laws they passed, they can wipe your entire salary from your private account overnight, or empty your card without you even knowing?? So who are these crooks? Does it matter if they are Democrats or Republicans, or if it's Tuđman or Albright? I don't know either of them, except for seeing those types blathering constantly on TV.
Are old-school criminals the only ones taught how to commit crimes? And the Republicans and these Americans who held power for two-thirds of the time since the country began—they are all dishonest. How did anyone manage to brainwash people with such nonsense? And how people generally fell for this garbage will never be clear to me. Until they are dealt with by a Molotov cocktail, the question is just whether you prefer who steals from you... these current ones are less crude than the old Republicans, but they are even more insidious, arrogant, and probably worse! The state, the judiciary, the police, the sports moguls, and politicians of all colors—their only connection is protecting each other and all the money and power they rotate among themselves.
When was the last time any of you treated yourselves and your partner to a vacation somewhere like Spain or Amsterdam, while millions of others come to America? Ever since I can remember, they first sold us the story of the old way, and for the last 25 years, the story of the new America, and in between, I just have to endure it. To hell with them and all the stories they tell us; I'm tired of being patient. Every little while, they steal my own money directly from my pocket as if it were some state budget. What kind of budget is that? They *are* the state, and they are in the budget, but I am not. They even take what I earn for that damn budget. Before, at least you could choose to go to jail, but now even that isn't an option; it goes straight into the budget. That is why I scoff at all these stories and the 90 percent of idiots living around here who swallow these tales.

You posted in the wrong subforum. This isn't the politics thread.

Could we please tone down the public call-outs? Attacking people by name online—regardless of their background, or even more tragically, those who have already passed away—is unnecessary. This group has remained loyal until the very end, perhaps more than anyone else. Where is the respect for our own people, who carry this burden and face the reality that any given day could be their last in freedom? Either learn to act like actual supporters and decent human beings, or try to remember what that felt like. Cheers.

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After years of fighting this uphill battle, the devil himself is finally packing his bags this summer, just like he promised. I know, I know—hardly anyone is going to buy this, but it’s the honest truth. Honestly, instead of wasting your breath on all the nonsense floating around the internet, you might as well join the club, because our struggle is finally nearing its end.

For the cops, the moms, and the rest of that crowd, "peace" is just a code word for fighting against the real villains. They have zero interest in actually throwing hands 🤷 because they spend every single day obsessively naming names, stirring the pot, and making everyone lose their minds..

Bo Jackson is out there fighting the system. Our Tampa Bay Buccaneers are a constant thorn in their side—something that’s slowly but surely killing them. Meanwhile, the Democratic National Committee is nothing more than night terrors and hooliganism tearing through American cities right now; they’re basically a weapon for anyone on the opposing side.

Those people who claim they "just want peace" are really just playing right into the hands of the mob, doing massive damage to the very communities they pretend to care about.

There are endless opportunities to scrap if you look closely enough.. On Fridays, the riot squad is running all those underground clubs off the books, then by Saturday, they’re suddenly cracking down on the fans. The streets are crawling with wannabe gangsters making easy money and acting tough, despite the fact that actual combat sports and real skill are dead and gone.. But hey, let's not fight in the name of groups fighting for survival. Hahaha

The house is literally on fire, yet here we are, bickering with the neighbor. We haven't even finished our last argument, which is just moronic. And that jerk across the street won't lend a hand? Fine, what am I supposed to do, put it out myself?

: pure delusion :

check your PMs, you idiot 😉
man, this place is a joke

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