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Why was this thread locked twice? - Politics

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Steven Allen9 Steven Allen9 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Why lock the thread about Dujmović shifting right? It didn't break any of the site's democratic rules.
And why move the Senate discussion into another thread? That’s a whole other issue right there.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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#2 ·
Steven Allen9 said:I mean, why on earth was the thread about Dujmović shifting toward the right locked? There wasn't anything breaking the democratic spirit or the community rules here.
And what’s the deal with the Senate discussion being moved into a different thread? That's a whole separate issue right there!

Could you please be a bit more specific? I'd love if you could walk me through exactly what you mean regarding this:

rustydrifter10 said:• When you write your headlines, try to make it crystal clear who you're complaining about and what the actual issue is [PDF filename - Moderator username - the problem] because that way, the people meant to see your reports will actually notice them, and you'll get a response much faster. In your opening post, just lay out the specific reason with a little explanation and include links to the posts you're flagging.
Steven Allen9 Steven Allen9 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
rustydrifter10 said:Can you be more specific? Like, give me as much detail as possible on this:

My bad. Let me clear that up.

1.pdf Politics;
author;Pusac,
topic title: DOJ and intelligence agencies controlling 80,000 phones
page 2; the controversial topic I wrote about is listed under this section:
The controversial topic is "Senate Council for civilian oversight of intelligence agencies."
Question: why wasn't it its own standalone topic instead of getting buried under a broader one?

2.pdf Close to politics
author;Steven Allen9
controversial topic title: Dujmović's sneaky right-wing shift
Question: why is this under "Key"?
Charles Fox10 Charles Fox10 Regular
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#4 ·
I have an answer to that first question.

The reason is that right when this thread was started, everything happening within the intelligence community became relevant, tying directly into the ongoing debate about security agencies we've been having for two years now.
Personally, I’m not thrilled with the title, but the subject matter is certainly timely.

There are already threads covering Karamarko and Ostojić on the PDF. Given the current political scene and the discussions regarding Zoran Milanović's administration on the front page, I suspect adding yet another similar thread would just dilute the conversation even further.

That said, I get where you were coming from with your topic. Feel free to shoot me a DM if you want to bounce some ideas around; it’s definitely worth discussing over on the Politics board. No hard feelings.

As for your second question, you'll have to wait for my colleague.
Ryan Vaughn7 Ryan Vaughn7 Active Member
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joined Jul 2009
#5 ·
Steven Allen9 said:2.pdf Close to politics
author;Steven Allen9
subject; The sneaky right-wing shift from T. Dujmović
Question; why the lock?

You started a thread about some comment by Dujmović without even providing a link to the actual piece. Based on how you summarized it, it's hard to tell what actually happened. It’s a bit vague.
Also, you posted this in the wrong section. Threads about specific people belong in the political scene section. Look, if you want to start a discussion about a commentator like Dujmović, that’s fine by me. But let's keep it broad rather than fixating on just one single article. And maybe try to make a bit more sense, please.
Steven Allen9 Steven Allen9 Active MemberOP
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#6 ·
Charles Fox10 said:I've got an answer to that first question.

The timing isn't a coincidence. This topic only popped up because it became relevant again, given everything currently blowing up within the intelligence community. It’s basically tied directly to that ongoing debate about security agencies we've been chewing on for two years now.
Not exactly thrilled about the title of this thread, but let's face it—it’s incredibly relevant right now.

People are already hashing this out over on the Karamarko and Ostojić threads. Between that and the chatter about Zoran Milanović’s administration hitting the front page, the political scene is pretty much covered. Honestly, starting yet another thread on the same old stuff would just be more noise. Why dilute the conversation even further?

I get where you're coming from with this thread. Honestly, we should probably take this to the DMs and bounce some ideas around—this is exactly the kind of stuff that needs more discussion over on the main Politics board anyway. No biggie.

You'll have to wait on that second question until my colleague gets here.

Got it.
I figured that’s how this would go. Even when one single event triggers a massive wave of noise across a dozen different topics, trying to reel it in is a lost cause. It’s hard to police once everyone on these forums gets hit with a sudden burst of "creative" energy. Keeping things focused in such a tight space is a nightmare.
Thanks for the reply and the offer to work together.

Ryan Vaughn7 said:You started a whole thread about some comment from Dujmović without even providing a link. Based on your summary alone, it’s hard to tell what actually happened. Who knows?

Facts.
I’m opening this thread because Dujmović finally crossed the line. He’s spent his time insulting and belittling actual citizens—people who gathered with nothing but genuine intentions to make this country better. He wasn't even attacking the politics or the politicians; he was going after the people themselves. Why is that?
Look, I’m not exactly a fan of his, but I stumbled upon his latest column and just had to say something about how low this guy can sink.
Ryan Vaughn7 said:Also, you're in the wrong subforum. If you want to talk about specific people, stick to the politics section. Look, if you want to start a thread about that commentator Dujmović, go for it—I don't care. But keep it general instead of just obsessing over one single article. And maybe try making some actual sense, please?

Thanks for the advice. Like I already said regarding my take on Dujmović, I'm not going to waste any more of your time.
Can this be unlocked and moved over to the political scene, or am I stuck starting a whole new thread with the same title?
Ryan Vaughn7 Ryan Vaughn7 Active Member
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#7 ·
Steven Allen9 said:Is there any way to just unlock this and move it over to the political scene, or should I just start a new thread with the same title?

I think it’d be better if you just started a new one.

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