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Is Chloraseptic okay to use as an antiseptic for self-catheterization?

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swiftbear86 swiftbear86 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
I don't have any details on that specific disinfectant, but when you pick up your prescription at the pharmacy, you should be able to get a self-catheterization gel. It’s great because it acts as both an anesthetic and an antiseptic at the same time.

Like this one, for example:

Could you give me a bit more detail about everything included in your prescription pickup?

I just realized that Chloraseptic is actually a hand sanitizer; I bet if you look closely at the label, it'll say it isn't meant for mucous membranes.
I think they carry Cepacol here—it's used in OB-GYN clinics too—but I don't have the pricing right in front of me. I can check tomorrow. My only worry is that it might end up being pricier than Hibiclens.
Nicholas Myers Nicholas Myers Active Member
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#2 ·
I'm inclined to agree with swiftbear86.

It seems to me that Chloraseptic is primarily intended for skin disinfection—specifically for hands. Using it on genital areas or mucous membranes feels far too aggressive. One really ought to consult a urologist before experimenting with this kind of disinfectant on their own.

For disinfecting the urethral opening, products containing chlorhexidine are typically recommended. For instance, using a diluted solution of a standard chlorhexidine gluconate would be a common approach.

The price depends on the packaging and the fact that you have to dilute a concentrated solution, though I suspect it ends up costing about the same as Hibiclens.😢

The gel mentioned by swiftbear86 also contains chlorhexidine, among other things.
Anthony Peterson50 Anthony Peterson50 Member
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#3 ·
According to my insurance benefits, I am entitled to 450 single-use Nelaton catheters, 900 ml of gel, and bed pads for incontinence—none of which are actually useful to me. What I truly require, yet cannot obtain through my coverage, are antiseptic solution and gauze pads. I have been using "Zylocaine" from McDavid, which serves as an antiseptic, but the staff at the hospital instructed me that before inserting the catheter, one must clean the urethral opening using both an antiseptic and gauze. Is this step strictly necessary, or would the gel alone suffice given its antiseptic properties? Both the antiseptic and the gauze are prohibitively expensive since I consume them in such high volumes—roughly 80 pads a month—so if the gel is sufficient on its own, it would be a significant relief.
I would appreciate any advice you might offer.
Anthony Peterson50 Anthony Peterson50 Member
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#4 ·
I have also included the manufacturer's link for Zylocaine from McKesson here: http://www.farco-pharma.de/index.php...mod&np=63&p=63 It explicitly states that I am required to cleanse the urethral opening before applying the gel itself.
It appears I will ultimately need to track down a more budget-friendly alternative to Hibiclens. Does anyone happen to know of a more affordable antiseptic than Hibiclens?
I am somewhat skeptical about whether Chloraseptic gluconate would be a superior choice; since it requires dilution, I would likely be forced to purchase distilled water to go along with it, wouldn't I?
swiftbear86 swiftbear86 Active MemberOP
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#5 ·
I found this mucosal disinfectant called Skinsept mucosa—it's listed in Canadian, but I'm hoping you can make sense of it.

It comes in a 500 ml bottle for about $29, so honestly, sticking with Hibiclens is probably still your best bet if you're looking to save some cash.
Anthony Peterson50 Anthony Peterson50 Member
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#6 ·
Alright, I appreciate the assistance. I intend to make inquiries at several more pharmacies, though one quickly learns that most retailers, much like any other merchant, tend to push their high-margin inventory first. ;-)
swiftbear86 swiftbear86 Active MemberOP
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#7 ·
Anthony Peterson50 said:Alright, thanks for the help. I think I'll check with a few more pharmacies. Usually, though, just like any other retail clerk, they try to push their most expensive items first. ;-)

We aren't pushing anything on you!
We just offer what’s actually available on the shelves, and honestly, there are very few products out there specifically designed for the urogenital mucosa.
Anthony Peterson50 Anthony Peterson50 Member
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#8 ·
swiftbear86 said:We aren't out here promoting anything!
We are simply suggesting what is readily available on the market, and frankly, there is a distinct lack of products suitable for the urogenital mucosa.

My apologies; I had no intention of offending anyone or causing any sort of disturbance.
I am still struggling to locate an antiseptic for self-catheterization that is more affordable than Hibiclens. At the moment, I am using Cepacol, which was given to me by a friend undergoing peritoneal dialysis, but it isn't quite working for me. After applying this Cepacol, I have to wait a significant amount of time for the antiseptic to evaporate, otherwise the stinging sensation becomes unbearable.
Back at the hospital, they used some sort of red liquid as an antiseptic. Could that perhaps be a diluted version of a red Betadine solution? Furthermore, I find myself quite perplexed by the sheer variety of Betadine options available; I genuinely cannot discern which one would best serve my specific needs. Should I opt for the red Betadine or the gluconate version? Does the choice matter, and if so, what is the required dilution ratio for self-catheterization?
The Betadine gluconate appears to be clear, so perhaps that isn't what they used in the clinical setting, or...? If these require heavy dilution, they might actually be more cost-effective than Hibiclens since the supply would last much longer. Thank you in advance for any guidance you can provide.
analogtrucker10 analogtrucker10 Newcomer
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#9 ·
My doctor mentioned that by using Cepacol and disinfecting the catheter, I could potentially reuse it multiple times rather than just once. Has anyone here actually tried this? I’m also curious about the specific process for disinfecting the catheter properly. I’ve reached out to pharmacists and a few medical professionals, but I haven't been able to get a straight answer from anyone. If anyone could share some insight or their own experience, I would truly appreciate it.
Anthony Peterson50 Anthony Peterson50 Member
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#10 ·
I fail to see how such a procedure is even feasible; one would have to flush the catheter with that specific antiseptic both internally and externally, then store it in some sort of sterile container afterward, which strikes me as an impossible task. Perhaps you ought to consult the very doctor who provided you with that advice in the first place. Personally, I rarely struggle with a shortage of catheters, yet I am perpetually running low on gels, and what irritates me most is being forced to purchase my own antiseptics. I seem to go through an entire liter every three weeks. My research online suggests that the product known as Orajel is restricted to hospital use in Austria and the US, making it unavailable at local pharmacies. In fact, according to the usage regulations here in America, advertising it directly to the public is strictly prohibited. On a different note, I encountered an Austrian physician online recommending a 20% borax and glycerin solution—something that can be compounded in a pharmacy lab—as a substitute for Hibiclens. Has anyone here actually tried this? Does it serve as a reliable alternative for self-catheterization antiseptic?

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