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Who moderates the 'World' subforum?

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Susan Price30 Susan Price30 RegularOP
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#1 ·
I sent a private message to one of the politics moderators about a specific thread about a week ago. Another mod seemed to be hanging around there too, and they’re active on that subforum almost every single day—I noticed them replying to various topics, which is how I figured that out. However, this particular thread doesn't really seem to be monitored by a moderator, so I'm wondering who specifically is in charge of overseeing the PDF World section.

thanks
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 RegularOP
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#2 ·
If possible, I’d like to request that the admin review the deleted posts from user within the aforementioned thread, specifically regarding instances of extreme and persistent verbal abuse.

Thanks and best regards,
Sandra Gonzalez3 Sandra Gonzalez3 Active Member
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#3 ·
Susan Price30 said:... looks like the mods are nuking this one...

Visited, deleted, locked!

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Susan Price30 Susan Price30 RegularOP
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#4 ·
Kevin Williams56 said:Visited, deleted, locked!

Cheers, thanks! Now I'm just hoping the admin takes a look at the reported posts involving that clone's blatant insults.
Sandra Gonzalez3 Sandra Gonzalez3 Active Member
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#5 ·
Susan Price30 said:Yeah, thanks! Now I’m just waiting on the admin to actually deal with those reported posts where this clone was being straight-up abusive.

Well, that's literally their job, isn't it?! 🤷
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 RegularOP
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#6 ·
I suppose I don't know. Either you think it's your job to constantly nitpick and delete my posts in this thread while letting others go off-topic or troll unchecked, or perhaps you simply aren't interested in insulting someone through a blatant personal attack on blues dada.

Well, you certainly handled everything perfectly...
Sandra Gonzalez3 Sandra Gonzalez3 Active Member
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#7 ·
Susan Price30 said:maybe, who knows. either you think it's your job to nitpick and wipe my posts while letting other off-topic crap or trolls slide... or you just don't care about giving a massive insult and a personal attack on Blue Dada.

yeah, you handled everything perfectly... just flawless...

Look lady, the admins can see all three of your posts that I nuked from this thread. They're free to weigh in, or even bring them back if they actually deserve to be read.

Glad you're so happy with how I handled things. 👍
Daniel Ward87 Daniel Ward87 Active Member
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#8 ·
Susan Price30 said:Also, if possible, could an admin please take a look at the deleted posts from user in that thread mentioned above? There was some seriously nasty, non-stop bullying going on there.

Thanks a bunch, cheers!

Tabula Rasa got hit with a permanent ban. Honestly, looking at his track record on this Forum, he earned it.
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 RegularOP
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#9 ·
Thanks, Daniel Ward87. If I could just ask one more thing: why was this thread locked?> The anniversary celebrations are still going on, and the title of the topic is 60 Years of the Reign of Queen Elizabeth. It’s an ongoing matter that remains highly relevant.
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 RegularOP
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#10 ·
Look, ma'am, the admins can see all three of your posts from that thread I deleted. They’re free to weigh in, and they could even restore them if they think they actually belong here.


My point was just about your selective deleting that we saw on that other thread. That's all...
Sandra Gonzalez3 Sandra Gonzalez3 Active Member
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#11 ·
Susan Price30 said:Look, my point was just about that selective deleting we saw happening in that other thread. That's all there is to it...

When you say "which one"... what's that even supposed to mean? Seriously... Still waiting on that update... honestly... "Witnessed"? You mean more of you? Who exactly witnessed anything? All I see here is your complaint... and honestly, it’s pretty vague as hell. No specifics at all...

Look, I need some actual, concrete examples of this "selective" deleting they’re doing. Let's get real so we actually know what we're talking about here...
hiddenmoose16 hiddenmoose16 Newcomer
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#12 ·
Kevin Williams56 said:When you ask "which one," what exactly do you mean? I can't work with just "smo." If you want me to rewrite something, give me the actual text. I don't do guesswork. "Witnesses"? What do you mean by "you all"? Who exactly witnessed anything? All I see here is your complaint—and frankly, it’s pretty vague. You haven't provided a single concrete detail to back it up.

Look, I need you to give me some actual, concrete examples of this "selective" censorship you're talking about. Let's get specific so we're all on the same page.

Look, personally, I'm with Susan Price30 on this one. The way you and a handful of others moderate the politics section is pretty obvious to anyone actually paying attention.
Don't start coming at me with that "be more specific" crap. I stated my opinion. You don't have to agree with it, and I'm not asking you to.
I don't post on the Forum all that much—mostly I just lurk and read—but from where I'm sitting, it looks like everything is heading straight toward a total disaster.
Sandra Gonzalez3 Sandra Gonzalez3 Active Member
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#13 ·
hiddenmoose16 said:Look, personally I’m with Susan Price30 on this one. The way you and a few others handle the political moderation is obvious to anyone with eyes...
And don't come at me with that "show me proof" crap. I stated my opinion. You don't have to agree with it, and I'm not asking you to.
I've been hanging around the Forum, posting here and there, reading more than I write, and honestly? It feels like this whole place is circling the drain...

And listen, hiddenmoose16, if we're talking about "artistic vibes" or just your gut feeling, hey, you're entitled to it. Saying "I hate how politics are moderated" is fine. Me or someone else on the Forum might think you're wrong, but you've got a right to say it.

But if we're gonna start whining about "selective deleting" of posts, then I'm gonna demand actual receipts. I'm not accepting hearsay as gospel truth. If you're making accusations, back them up...
hiddenmoose16 hiddenmoose16 Newcomer
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#14 ·
Kevin Williams56 said:Look, hiddenmoose16, if we’re talking about "artistic" vibes or just my own gut feeling, you’re obviously entitled to yours. Saying "I don't like how the site is being moderated" is a perfectly fine stance to take. Whether it's me or someone else on the Forum disagrees with you, everyone has the right to voice their opinion.

If we’re going to start throwing around accusations about "selective censorship," then I’m going to insist on seeing hard evidence. We can't just let these claims sit there based on hearsay and expect everyone to take them at face value. If you're going to make an accusation, back it up with facts.

The only reason I’m even reaching out is because of that "artistic" way you address the ladies on this Forum—especially that bit about "honoring the reading experience."
I just can't bring myself to care about this "artistic" masterpiece, especially when you consider the platform it’s being used to influence—politics. It's just not for me.

Since I’m already here...
If you’ve got a specific grievance, put it right here. postuIt feels like you completely ignored my point just to pivot into some petty back-and-forth. Let me be crystal clear: I’m not here to bicker with anyone, and I certainly have no interest in getting into a mudslinging match with you.

I said what I said. 😁
Long live...
Sandra Gonzalez3 Sandra Gonzalez3 Active Member
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#15 ·
The main reason I’m even replying is because of that "artistic" way you address a lady on this Forum, especially that whole bit about "insulting someone's reading"...
And honestly? I'm not fascinated by some "artistic" performance, nor am I interested in how that crap affects this site (PDF Politics)...

Look, that answer needs a lot more context. 🙂

hiddenmoose16 said:but since we're here...
You’ve got a specific complaint right here in this post, which you seemingly ignored just to turn this into some petty back-and-forth. And let me be crystal clear—I have zero interest in bickering with anyone, especially you...

I said what I said. 😁
Live and let live...

I wrote that post after I moderated the thread, wiped out the problematic comments, and locked it because it had completely lost its purpose. It turned into a playground for subjects throwing themselves at the throne, demanding we delete any criticism and punish anyone who doesn't worship her like a goddess...

Then came the sweeping, baseless accusations about "targeting" certain posts, "selective deleting," and all that nonsense... so naturally, I asked for them to actually get specific.
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 RegularOP
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#16 ·
When you say "we witnessed this," are you implying there were multiple people involved? Who exactly was witnessing it? All I see here is your complaint, which feels quite vague and lacks any real substance.

So, I would appreciate it if you could provide specific examples of this "selective" deletion so we can actually discuss facts rather than assumptions.

__________________

Look at the last two pages, for example.

And one more thing—I'm not a fan of your tone, so I don't want to continue this. This is the second time you've acted argumentative and condescending whenever someone offers criticism regarding your moderation on a sub-forum specifically designed for that purpose; it seems to be a recurring pattern for you.

Personally, I was just looking for feedback and input from others (like the admins, for instance) regarding the points I raised here...
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 RegularOP
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#17 ·
What actually prompted me to reach out was that "artistic" way you address the women on this Forum, especially that part about "forbidding reading"
And honestly, I’m not particularly fascinated by such an "artistic" approach, nor am I impressed by the platform it impacts (Politics.com)...

thanks. 🙂 It’s good to know others are noticing this too, not just me...

Besides, if you look through other threads on PZK, the rhetoric used in this particular style seems identical. I can't tell if anyone offering criticism or asking questions here is being viewed as looking for a fight, or if they are simply trying to resolve an issue—which, in my opinion, is exactly why PZK exists.

It has become a playground for subjects to vent their devotion to the Reign of Queen Elizabeth, while simultaneously demanding the deletion and punishment of any critique, all while provoking those users who refuse to treat the old lady like a deity or worship her.

The thread author, Blue Dada, hasn't stopped anyone from writing anything; if anything, they were the victim of a gang attack by the same people whose off-topic or troll posts you let slide, despite them constantly being rude and insulting without getting banned.

Ultimately, the admin can see all of this and decide what is actually happening here. I hope the thread that was closed with this comment gets reopened:

It seems everything that needed to be said about the old queen has been said.

So, until next time.
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 RegularOP
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#18 ·
Well, even that response needs a bit more context to make sense. 🙂


And what would that actually be? In your view, does this "context" you seem to see justify your rudeness, or am I missing something?

Because that's exactly how it comes across... it's strange logic, or rather, a privilege you're claiming for yourself (since I highly doubt the Forum owner or any admin gave you that kind of leeway).
Sandra Gonzalez3 Sandra Gonzalez3 Active Member
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joined Oct 2008
#19 ·
Susan Price30 said:__________________

specifically the last two pages, for instance...

And another thing—I really don't like your tone, so I don't want to keep this going (this is the second time you've acted combative and patronizing whenever someone criticizes how you moderate this specific sub-forum; it seems like your default setting).

Personally, I was just looking for opinions and input from others (like the admins) regarding the questions I brought up here...

Oh, there it is. Another baseless, sweeping accusation. Look, Susan Price30, you're wrong. You got a perfectly decent response before you started whining about people "targeting" your posts. Both you and I—and God knows the admins too—know nobody was targeting you. Everything that got deleted deserved to be deleted.

And hiddenmoose16 got a fair response, too. Everyone gets what they deserve here: polite people get politeness, and trolls get what's coming to them. 👍 So you can take those new lies about me having a "standard way" of acting and shove 'em.

And what would that even be? And you think whatever "context" you see justifies your rude response or something? I don't get it.

Yep, my "rude" response is justified by your intentionally rude and totally unfounded accusations.

As for the topic, like I told hiddenmoose16, it's not being reopened. It turned into a giant ego trip for some old lady, and every time there's a critique, her little subjects jump in like they're on fire. How long do these two old fossils think they can stand out in the rain and wave at their followers... and what does any of this have to do with actual global politics? Who actually cares? Go to some gossip site, celebrity news, or whatever trashy tabloid you like. I think you guys had plenty of time and space to worship your queen... don't overdo it now and start asking for a hand to hold.

If the admins feel differently, then step up.

Peace.
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 RegularOP
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#20 ·
Well, here we go, yet another baseless and sweeping accusation. Look, Susan Price30, you aren't right. You received a perfectly reasonable response before you started making claims about people "targeting" your posts. Both you and I—and heaven knows the admins too—know there was no targeting involved; everything removed was simply content that deserved to be removed.

Mr. Matovina also received a decent response. Everyone gets treated according to their own merits: polite users are treated politely, while those being malicious get what they deserve. So, you can take these latest fabrications about me having "standard procedures" and just throw them in the trash.

It isn't true, because on the Zelda's Complaint regarding bans thread, when I complained about a ban you handed out using similar logic—claiming biased and selective moderation—you were unnecessarily rude, argumentative, and immediately started bickering. If anyone wants to see how you react to criticism from anyone else here, they can just check that thread. So, sorry, but you're wrong, and insisting you're right when you clearly aren't isn't getting you anywhere...

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