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Anthony Cook70 Anthony Cook70 NewcomerOP
6 messages
joined Apr 2012
#1 ·
Can an admin please explain why I’m not allowed to call Messi a midget?

It's just a nickname that stuck in my head when talking about him—the guy is clearly tiny, and probably would've been even smaller if he hadn't gone on hormone therapy back in his teens.

I don't see calling him a midget as an insult, but today a moderator threatened me, told me never to say it again, and slapped me with a 35-point penalty just for that word.

I've read the Forum rules front to back, and I honestly don't see where I'm breaking anything by using this nickname for the little Argentinian legend. Help me out here.

I'm not just whining for the sake of it; I want a specific explanation of which rule I actually violated.

Don't give me the "you're just trolling" excuse, and don't tell me it's because the moderator finds it "annoying"—the rules don't say you get punished just because a mod is tired of hearing something.

Because if calling a midget a midget is against the rules, then the whole soccer subforum is going to fall apart, considering we use funny nicknames for players in basically every single post.

When mods only pick and choose certain nicknames to punish, it just makes the whole subforum feel totally arbitrary.

Thanks for taking this complaint seriously.
redviper32 redviper32 Member
11 messages
joined May 2012
#2 ·
I mean, you really shouldn't call him a midget because, honestly, he just isn't one. Usually, people use that term for folks under 4'11", and he definitely clears that bar, so calling him that is basically just asking for trouble with FC Barcelona fans, which feels like total trolling to me.

And besides, who knows, there might be some guy hanging out on the Forum right now who’s actually shorter than Leo, but he isn't a midget either. So, I guess your post could end up being pretty offensive to someone like that too, you know?
Anthony Cook70 Anthony Cook70 NewcomerOP
6 messages
joined Apr 2012
#3 ·
If we actually enforced rules as strict as the ones you just laid out, about 85% of the people on this Forum would be getting banned for trolling.

I appreciate the effort, seriously, but this explanation doesn't really cut it—especially since you aren't even citing a single actual rule from the site.
redviper32 redviper32 Member
11 messages
joined May 2012
#4 ·
I’m honestly not quite sure what counts as strictly off-limits here. 😁

I mean, if you're just calling him a midget, you're basically just messing around and nothing more, I guess.
Alex Cook Alex Cook Active Member
157 messages
joined May 2009
#5 ·
Anthony Cook70 said:I honestly need one of the admins to step up and explain the logic here—like, seriously, why am I not allowed to call Messi a midget?...

Calling that "shorty" comment just the cherry on top of your little Football PDF opus... honestly, it’s perfect. That whole thing is basically just one giant collection of trolling and flame wars—I mean, you aren't even shy about throwing insults around at this point, are you? It's all just noise...

I've gone through all the rules here on the Forum... pretty much memorized them at this point...

Glad to hear that, seriously. I just really hope you actually took the time to dig into them from top to bottom... and didn't just skim the surface. 🙂

Look, before you start getting all rowdy and making a mess of things, let’s go over the ground rules for this Forum... I've seen enough chaos to know that without some basic guardrails, this whole thing goes south fast—and nobody wants to deal with that headache... Just read through the guidelines, play nice, and try to keep things civil. It’s not rocket science, really... just common sense, mostly.:

Look, if we want to keep this Forum from turning into a total dumpster fire and actually keep the discussions somewhat civil, we’re gonna need everyone to play by the rules. We’ve gotta maintain some level of decency here—so, basically, the following is strictly off-limits on the Forum:

Look, we’ve gotta follow the rules here in the United States—and I mean actually follow them, not just skim through... We're strictly prohibiting anything that breaks federal law. That means no hate speech, no calls for discrimination, and absolutely none of that business where people try to justify or glorify criminal acts. We also have zero tolerance for copyright infringement, animal cruelty, or anything involving the exploitation of minors. Seriously, don't even go there... stay on the right side of the law or you're out.
Look, just a heads-up for everyone—don't go posting your services or trying to hawk your products here without getting the green light from the admins first. If you're actually looking to run an ad or get some real exposure, do yourself a favor and reach out to the marketing department directly... otherwise, it's just going to be a waste of time...
Look, we’ve gotta address the elephant in the room regarding how people are acting around here—it’s getting a bit much... We're seeing way too much junk being dumped into the threads—stuff that's totally irrelevant, useless noise, or just straight-up off-topic nonsense that has zero to do with what we're actually discussing. It’s also becoming a massive headache because people are posting in ways that completely kill the flow... you know, making everything impossible to read. That includes using trashy, inappropriate titles or setting up profiles with signatures that just don't fit the vibe of this place. We need to keep things clean and focused if this is going to work...
It’s getting pretty ridiculous how some people are actively trying to sabotage the Forum staff—I’m talking about the blatant disregard for warnings, the constant attempts to resurrect deleted threads, and all that other nonsense... It’s like they think the rules are just suggestions or something. Honestly, seeing this kind of interference with the mods' work is just exhausting... it makes everything run so much slower than it should.
Look, let me be crystal clear about this—if you try to pull the whole "clone account" stunt while you've been banned from the Forum, you're asking for trouble. And I’m not just talking about one ban, either. Using multiple accounts to mess with people—you know, the classic move where you jump into a thread with different handles just to argue with yourself or pretend there's more support for your nonsense than there actually is... that kind of manipulative garbage is strictly off-limits. We see right through it, and it won't fly here...
Personal attacks... honestly, what happened to actually having a conversation? It’s getting pretty pathetic out there lately—just people hurling insults instead of actually making a point. If you can't defend your position without resorting to cheap shots at the person sitting across from you, then maybe you shouldn't be talking in the first place... just my two cents... Just straight-up baiting people into personal fights—you know, that whole toxic cycle of non-constructive nonsense involving politics, religion, or whatever other identity bullshit people want to weaponize... basically just pure trolling...
So, we’ve got people out here actually posting private info about other members... seriously? It's like some people just don't get how things work online. You think you're safe behind a screen, then suddenly someone decides to go full scorched earth and drop personal details that should have stayed buried. It’s messy, it’s low, and honestly, it’s just pathetic... turns out there are still folks who haven't realized that once that data is out there, you can't exactly pull it back in. Just a complete lack of class, really...
Posting private messages... honestly, what is even the point anymore? It’s just one more way for people to stir up drama where nobody actually asked for it... turns out some folks just love the chaos of dragging someone's business out into the open for everyone to dissect. Just feels messy... and kind of desperate, if I'm being real...

I’m not buying that "it's just a troll" excuse for a second... honestly, save it...

That’s your problem, isn't it...

Look, if some little guy decides to break a hard rule here on the forum, the whole soccer sub is going to fall apart—and let’s be real, that’s where all the jokes and nicknames live... everything would just go to hell...

There aren't actually that many terms that fly in the face of our community guidelines—I mean, if you look at a word like "midget" in total isolation, it’s probably right on the borderline of what we allow... but most of the stuff that pops up is way more toxic. We're talking about language that is aggressively discriminatory—whether it's targeting someone's religion, race, nationality, or just any other identity they hold... that kind of stuff is where we draw the line.

The issue here is you’re dropping that line in every second or third post—and through this constant relentless repetition, just like redviper32 already pointed out, you're clearly just fishing for a reaction from those FC Barcelona and Messi fans... and trust me, there's a massive crowd of them waiting to jump in. 🙂

Then there's the whole "humor" aspect of that phrase. If this supposed hormone therapy he was taking actually happened, then you're basically making light of someone's medical issues—but if it didn't, you're just trolling. It really can't be that complicated... 🙂

Trying to draw a parallel between, say, some massive "Dutch banking scandal" and his height is honestly just laughable at this point.

Selective banning based on specific nicknames just leaves the sub-forum completely at the mercy of whatever mood the moderators are in.

True, we're talking about selective moderation here. Banning posts that—get this—actually violate the rules. (see my explanation above)
Anthony Cook70 Anthony Cook70 NewcomerOP
6 messages
joined Apr 2012
#6 ·
Not trying to step on anyone's toes here, but I think I made it pretty obvious who I’m looking for an answer from.

If you guys happen to remember this from a few posts back, cool. If not, no big deal. Either way, I'll be happy if I at least managed to point out the unfairness for a second.

Look, this whole post isn't much to write home about and could easily be broken down into simple facts—and I really don't want to derail the thread by overanalyzing it—but regarding this part:

Alex Cook said:you've always been one to throw insults.

I’m gonna need some proof for that.
Ryan Vaughn7 Ryan Vaughn7 Active Member
154 messages
joined Jul 2009
#7 ·
Anthony Cook70 said:I’m not trying to dismiss anyone else's perspective here, but I think I was pretty clear about who I was looking to for an answer.

The admins can't give you an answer until the relevant moderators weigh in, which is why Alex Cook stepped up and explained everything perfectly.
Besides, like redviper32 pointed out—and thanks for that input—Messi doesn't have dwarfism. But even if he did, making excessive jokes about someone's physical disability isn't okay, even on a soccer subforum, which we already moderate more loosely than the other sections. Your comments didn't just cross the line; they blew right past it.
In this specific instance, you weren't banned out of nowhere. You received a warning beforehand. You chose to ignore it, and then you got the red flag to show we mean business. It's up to you now. Either you stop using those "friendly little jabs," or we'll be seeing you from the banned list.
brightpuma brightpuma Active Member
128 messages
joined Jun 2024
#8 ·
Glad to see some movement on my complaint the other day... 👍
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
1K messages
joined Nov 2015
#9 ·
brightpuma said:I mean, I'm actually kind of relieved that something finally moved forward regarding that complaint I filed the other day... 👍

Trust me, you aren't the only one who flagged him. 😳
bluetrucker64 bluetrucker64 Member
20 messages
joined Jul 2021
#10 ·
Wait, so he’s actually calling that guy Gaynald now?
Someone please walk me through this so I don't end up buying a bridge on these threads...
Anthony Cook70 Anthony Cook70 NewcomerOP
6 messages
joined Apr 2012
#11 ·
I haven't used the word 'shorty' in a week now. Since the main complaint was that I was overusing the term rather than the word itself, I wanted to check if it's cool to use it again in a future post?

That would be fair and right.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#12 ·
So, should you just start mimicking that specific phrase? From what I can gather, the issue isn't even really about that one word—it’s more about the whole communication style you seem to lean toward.
Anthony Cook70 Anthony Cook70 NewcomerOP
6 messages
joined Apr 2012
#13 ·
It’s not my communication style that’s the issue; people just love accusing me of trolling because I hold some pretty intense views that make them uncomfortable.
I make it a point to never be disrespectful, and I really stick to that rule.

As for the specific wording, I think the real trouble was just how often I used it. It's not like I'm planning on dropping it again in my next post—I definitely don't want another strike.

The phrase itself isn't even that offensive, so it feels like a real shame if it ends up getting a permanent ban.
Daniel Ward87 Daniel Ward87 Active Member
195 messages
joined May 2023
#14 ·
Anthony Cook70 said:The term itself isn't that heavy-handed, so it feels like a waste if someone gets a permanent ban over it.

Calling someone a "midget" is definitely offensive, even to people with dwarfism. Like Nika said, just steer clear of that word and you won't have any issues.

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