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Tyndall, please take over the ŽK administration

Started by stormyraven14 · · 👁 4 views · 13 replies

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Participants stormyraven14Jamie Thompson3Joseph Ward2Tyler Grant76hollowmason64Joshua Jones13velvettrucker52Susan Price30mellowraven22
stormyraven14 stormyraven14 MemberOP
25 messages
joined Mar 2014
#1 ·
because Sašenjka clearly lacks both the patience and the objectivity to handle it.
I don't know why he's constantly on edge—or why he’s picking fights with certain people—but I'm relatively new here and I'm already completely fed up with him sticking his nose into everything... the double standards, the way he ruins every possible discussion just because someone touches his fragile ego. Not to mention that one time he posted here on Amtrak explicitly stating that "this is an American forum and obviously Americans should have more rights here," which isn't just a total nonsense statement, but it also flies in the face of US law and the rules of this forum. The administration's decision to allow someone to spout such nonsense is... well, let's just say it leaves a lot to be desired.
If he can't handle the moderation style or the way people communicate on ŽK, then maybe he should find something less demanding to do, and just call it a day.
The subforum isn't some chaotic mess, nor is there anything major going on there; the mods are perfectly fine—they even tolerate oversized images (😁)—and ŽK is really the last bastion of decent communication. There's honestly no need to stomp in there like a bull in a china shop.

Anyway, to make a long story short, Tyndall, please consider swapping Sašenjka with someone else for a different subforum because this just doesn't make sense... everyone on ŽK gets on his nerves anyway, and they aren't exactly docile little children like the ones over on ŽuD who just sit there and take it. 🤷

Thanks for looking into this.

Edit — since I didn't specify exactly what I mean by "grinding," take a look at the disproportionate number of klonkin's and lastanov's posts that were deleted versus those that weren't, the imbalance in points... and if you feel like it, maybe spend a little time looking at the regular banter in the thread where the "problems" actually started. If you do, it'll become pretty obvious to you what I'm actually talking about.
stormyraven14 stormyraven14 MemberOP
25 messages
joined Mar 2014
#2 ·
Alright, so to save you from having to dig through everything—this is where it all started...

ZgSash said:The traditional reasons really boil down to this—the entire community used to pitch in to help the newlyweds get their start...
We were building this house from the ground up—everyone was chipping in however they could, whether it was donating livestock feed or dropping off a piece of furniture here and there...
Honestly, today is just a gaudy little parade—it doesn't really serve any purpose other than giving a few local idiots an excuse to get drunk and act reckless...

Joseph Ward2 The user said:So, did you actually end up sanctioning those people who were trying to get me banned from the forum for life...? 😳 Just tell them... 😬

ZgSash said:The reason I lifted your ban this time—well, it's really just to give you a fair shot at proving you can actually behave decently and act like a normal person...
This isn't exactly something you can just mess around with...

Is that what moderation looks like...?
This isn't moderation—especially not in a mystery thread. The guy showed up to join a casual discussion, only to suddenly start acting like some strict drill sergeant for no reason at all. Even if what Lastan and klonkin said later technically counts as "commenting on moderation" in a formal sense—it's not like this forum is Saša's personal PDF file. He clearly doesn't get it, and logically, or by any other standard, those comments aren't actually about the moderation itself... What Saša pulled here isn't even remotely close to actual moderation.

Moderators are supposed to guide the conversation and keep topics on track—but to do that effectively, they really ought to have a decent grasp of the subject matter they're overseeing... It’s hard to moderate something you don't actually understand. Beyond that, using a show of authority to shut people down or leaning into sarcasm and provocation just to mess with long-term users—well, there's simply no excuse for that kind of behavior in this thread...
Jamie Thompson3 Jamie Thompson3 Member
17 messages
joined Aug 2008
#3 ·
Even he got handed a red card for this one.
Damn.
stormyraven14 stormyraven14 MemberOP
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joined Mar 2014
#4 ·
And then, just to have the last word, Klonci says:
klonka, that was an insult—just poorly wrapped in a joke, fueled by this silly idea that the off-topic subforum is somehow exempt from the rules that apply to the rest of the site
it isn't, and it won't be, I guarantee it
a relaxed atmosphere—sure, joking around—is fine, and talking about whatever you want—that's okay too
but insults, provocation, belittling others, and general malice simply won't fly here and the off-topic section won't become some unmoderated corner where any idiot can run wild

In the meantime, I accept the apology and am lifting the warning and the ban, but please, keep your grievances in the appropriate sections.

When you compare that to how he was talking to Joseph Ward2... 🤷

Edit: So, wait—under which specific site rules does something worth 500 points get wiped away just because of an apology? The site is full of people offering apologies, yet they don't get unbanned. From what I can see, it seems like he actually knows he broke the rules, but he just doesn't have the guts to admit it—so instead, he puts on this act of being a saint seeking forgiveness, once again ignoring the actual Forum rules. I hope it’s clearer now why and how Lastan and the others lost their cool.

Seriously, Tyndall, just move him away from there. Please.
Joseph Ward2 Joseph Ward2 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2012
#5 ·
Honestly, I don't think ZGsahs really gets what's actually going on at the local precinct, especially when it comes to all those weird little mysteries floating around.

Those of us who frequent that corner of the internet have been hanging out there forever, and we tend to keep things pretty laid back—which, for the longest time, didn't bother anyone, and from what I can tell, nobody's going to take offense if someone gets mentioned in a thread. The sheer amount of traffic on those posts says more than enough about how good the content was and why it shouldn't have been messed with in the first place.

And seriously, you guys need to take another look at those bans for Lastan and the rest of the crew; they're way over the line.
Tyler Grant76 Tyler Grant76 Active Member
79 messages
joined May 2009
#6 ·
Joseph Ward2 said:I honestly don't think ZgSash really understands what's going on here at the main board, especially regarding all the local mysteries.

It's not just happening with ZgSash on the main board, either. I mean, half this forum has been hit by these equally nonsensical bans.
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
411 messages
joined Jan 2016
#7 ·
Jamie Thompson3 said:Honestly, that post just earned a straight red card.
God, man.

Are you guys actually kidding me right now? I don't get it—what part of this is even debatable? 🤷
Joshua Jones13 Joshua Jones13 Active Member
69 messages
joined Jun 2006
#8 ·
stormyraven14 said:Look, I won't beat around the bush. Tyndall, please just move over to a different sub-forum with Sašenjka because this whole thing is pointless. Everyone on the General Discussion board is constantly getting on his nerves anyway, and they aren't exactly the type to act like scared little kids on the Law & Order board, wasting their breath for nothing. 🤷

I don't see why the Law & Order board is being brought into this. If you have issues with how L&O is moderated, go ahead and say so, but I have to point out that the folks posting there aren't exactly terrified children, nor are they just talking nonsense.
The Law & Order section is more strictly moderated, but there's a reason for that, and comparing it to General Discussion doesn't make much sense. If people were actually just wasting time, I suspect Amtrak would be flooded with complaints against us, which hasn't happened.
stormyraven14 stormyraven14 MemberOP
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joined Mar 2014
#9 ·
hollowmason64 said:Are you guys kidding me right now? I don't get it—what part of this is actually up for debate? 🤷

If you aren't really sure what we're talking about here, please... just try to refrain from spamming the thread. Thanks.
stormyraven14 stormyraven14 MemberOP
25 messages
joined Mar 2014
#10 ·
Michelle Phillips54 said:Why is the main board getting dragged into this now? If you have issues with how the main sub-forum is being moderated, just say so—but I have to point out that the people posting there aren't some clueless kids, nor are they just blindly following whatever happens...
The main sub-forum is more strictly moderated, but there's a good reason for that—it doesn't really make sense to compare it to the general chat area. Even if things seem a bit extreme sometimes, I don't think Amtrak would be flooded with complaints against us, which hasn't happened.

This isn't about you or Nico, but it definitely has everything to do with Saša—who, honestly, when he goes in there to clean things up, the grass practically stops growing. I've asked Tyndall to take a look at this; if you guys don't know what's going on, or if you're afraid to speak up, or something else entirely... just please refrain from off-topic comments. I'd really love for this thread to make it to its conclusion in one relatively cohesive piece...

If I ever have an issue with your moderation, I'll let you know—either privately or over on Amtrak. Don't worry about it.
velvettrucker52 velvettrucker52 Member
31 messages
joined Dec 2011
#11 ·
stormyraven14 said:They aren't exactly charming, are they? They act like a bunch of terrified little kids over at the local DMV, just wasting everyone's time and blowing smoke for no reason. 🤷

It would truly make my day if someone could drop a link to the thread where some random user on Reddit just decided to post complete nonsense for no reason.

As Michelle Phillips54 pointed out, the ŽuD subreddit is much more strictly moderated. There’s actually a very logical reason for that, though. Since you have all three sides of a marriage triangle playing out in one thread, things get incredibly delicate. It only takes a single second for the whole thing to spiral into total chaos.
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 Regular
304 messages
joined Feb 2017
#12 ·
Michelle Johnson16 said:The issue isn't just limited to this specific thread; ZgSash has been sweeping through half the board with these nonsensical bans.

Take, for instance, that ridiculous ban you received for 😁

I am certain Tyadall (or whatever the name is) will handle this properly, much like the last time when someone was being incredibly rude and insulting Christians in a discussion about National Geographic.
It’s on the exact same level as what happened above, if not worse.
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
411 messages
joined Jan 2016
#13 ·
stormyraven14 said:If you don't actually know what we're talking about, please just refrain from spamming. Thanks.

Look, I totally get which posts you guys are referring to. It’s just that you don't happen to agree with my take on that specific card, and... well, that's just how it goes. 🤷

Just to clear the air—when I'm defending certain plays today, I'm talking about very specific instances. Just wanted to clarify that so there isn't any confusion. 😳
mellowraven22 mellowraven22 Active Member
105 messages
joined Jan 2007
#14 ·
There’s already a thread covering all this stuff.

Regarding that whole "takeover" of the Federal Reserve, that’s just not how things work.

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