Suggestion to improve "Television" PDF - separate "Series

We’ve already spent quite a bit of time rambling on about the current state of affairs over on that "Television" PDF thread.

I mean, honestly, I guess the intellectual caliber here is significantly lower than what you’d find on some of those other PDF forums, which is kind of a bummer because, well, it makes the whole thing way less interesting than it probably could be, if that makes sense.

I guess I should probably start somewhere, though I’m never quite sure if anything I say actually matters in the grand scheme of things, or if we're all just shouting into a void that doesn't care to listen, anyway... It all seems to be winding down to the same old thing, really—just this constant presence of teenagers popping up with these incredibly brief, mindless little comments that feel more like a chaotic group chat than actual conversation, just endlessly dropping these tedious, grating remarks that don't really go anywhere, I guess. So, I was sitting there thinking about whether people actually enjoy that one show or if they’re just pretending to like it because everyone else is talking about it... you know how it goes. It’s like, some people are all over it, claiming "this series is absolutely incredible" with a million emojis flying around, while others are just blunt about it, saying "this show is honestly trash" 😂. I guess it really just comes down to whatever mood you're in, maybe? I don't know, it feels like everyone has such a wildly different take on the same thing, which is kind of exhausting if you ask me.

Since, I guess, in like 90% of these cases we’re really just talking about TV series anyway...

...and there's just one of them left, I guess. I guess they just aren't that big of a deal on television anymore, or maybe it’s just me, but it feels like they’ve completely lost that lightning-in-a-bottle magic that used to make everyone stop what they were doing just to tune in. It’s like that whole era of cultural obsession just evaporated into thin air, leaving us with nothing but static and reruns, though I suppose that's just how things tend to go eventually, isn't it? I guess some of the folks jumping into this discussion are binge-watching the whole series in single chunks through various streaming services, which I suppose explains why the conversation feels a bit out of sync with what’s actually airing on network television right now... maybe it just makes it hard to stay on the same page when everyone is watching at a different pace, but that's how it goes, I guess.

I guess it would be pretty great if they just treated TV series the same way they do movies—you know, actually giving them that same level of respect and production value, though I suppose that’s asking a lot from Hollywood these days. Maybe if they stopped rushing everything through the pipeline just to hit some streaming quota, we'd get something that actually feels like art instead of just content meant to be consumed and forgotten. It’s funny how we expect cinematic greatness from the big screen but then settle for whatever mediocre binge-watchable thing pops up on our dashboards, but I don't know, maybe I'm just being cynical. I guess we could just hand them a separate PDF, maybe? I don't know, it might be better that way, honestly. It feels like if we cram everything together, things will just get lost in the shuffle, though I suppose there's always that risk of making things more complicated than they need to be. But yeah, a standalone PDF probably makes the most sense, I think.Maybe it’s finally time that the binge-watchers actually get their turn to speak up and share their stories, though I guess we’ll see if anyone actually listens. I guess you could say that television might end up focusing on whatever recent programming our networks have been pushing lately, though I suppose it’s all a bit much to take in at once..

Besides that, I guess... If they’d just stop obsessing over using the word "series" for everything, I guess we might actually stumble upon some topics that aren't so incredibly trivial, though maybe that’s just wishful thinking on my part.I mean, if we actually had some substance here, maybe we could find a few more posts that actually make sense or offer something interesting, instead of just wading through this endless stream of adolescent chatter.

I mean, how exactly do teenagers derail things for you when they start popping up in threads meant for actually serious topics?

To PDF is honestly getting tedious. Television is just churning out endless teen dramas lately. I wish they would actually separate the series into different categories; it would make things a lot more organized...

hollowtrucker77 said:How exactly do teenagers participating in other threads bother you when it comes to serious topics?

It isn't really about any specific subject matter, I guess, but more about the whole "programming concept" of the television subforum. It’s something the moderators essentially encourage and shape themselves.

Every thread—every single "series"—could theoretically spark all kinds of discussions. It could be anything from deep analysis to just some teenage chatter. Personally, I don't have an issue with that, provided there's actually room for everything else too. But, in my experience, there usually isn't much else. All the other potential adults just end up getting scattered elsewhere.

I've tried opening a few threads once or twice regarding journalistic standards in news broadcasts, but those topics always seem to get locked or just completely ignored. It feels like, well, adults haven't really set foot in the "television" section for a long time now. On top of that, the moderators who push this teen-centric vibe also seem to show this blatant aversion toward more serious subjects (and the people interested in them).

If "teenagers" want to hang out, there's a dedicated teenage subforum and plenty of other places that fit them perfectly. I just don't see why "television" has to be relegated to a playground for kids, since television is something watched by every generation, from age 7 to 77...

Take the "Ally McBeal" thread, for example (it isn't long, and the posts are pretty brief):

Now, you could talk about a series like that in so many ways. You could check airing times, discuss seasons, share opinions, or even get into theoretical analysis. You might get smart posts or mindless ones, long essays or three-word replies, and you'd expect both younger and older folks to chime in...

But, clearly, it all just boils down to ten-to-fifteen-year-old girls. Just look at what these posts actually mean and what kind of thread this even is (mind you, these are all just snippets from the Ally McBeal thread, even if some aren't strictly related):

abba said:Does anyone have the CDs with the music from that show?

Almighty Watashi said:Give us McNeal!!

dirty_Heri said:Man, someone please just bring back M.A.S.H. I mean, seriously, that was a real show. It actually had substance, you know? It wasn't just mindless noise like half the junk they throw at us on television these days. It had heart, it had grit, and it actually felt real. I guess I'm just feeling nostalgic, or maybe I'm just tired of everything being so shallow lately, but we really need more quality like that in the lineup. Just give us our classics back already.

I mean, honestly, looking at this whole situation, you just have to wonder if we’re all just dealing with some kind of total psychopath, or if that’s just the baseline for everyone these days, I guess. It feels like everything is spiraling into this weird, unpredictable madness where nobody actually follows the rules anymore, maybe because the rules themselves don't even seem to exist in any meaningful way. You see these people acting out, completely devoid of empathy or any sense of social cohesion, and you start to think that the very fabric of how we interact is just fraying at the edges, which is pretty exhausting to witness, really. It’s like we’re living in a constant state of psychological chaos, and I don't know, I just find myself questioning what's left of common sense in a world that seems increasingly driven by these volatile, irrational impulses. The user says:

I mean, if I’m being totally honest—and I guess I should be—it probably wouldn't hurt you one bit to go out and find yourself a really solid psychiatrist. 🙂

I guess I should probably mention Valentina, though I’m not entirely sure why it matters in the grand scheme of things, or if it even does, really... maybe it doesn't. It’s just one of those names that sticks in your head like a song you can't quite shake, even when you're trying to focus on more pressing matters, like the sheer absurdity of modern life or how everything seems to be sliding toward chaos. But anyway, there she is, just existing in this massive, overwhelming landscape we call home. kaže:
I mean, I really just want to hang out here and bother all you incredibly brilliant people who clearly have absolutely nothing better to do with your lives than sit around acting like such massive know-it-alls!

P.S. Sending an eternal shout-out to the hanger—long live the hanger!

I suppose I should mention Valentina, though I’m not entirely sure why it matters right now, given how everything seems to be drifting toward chaos anyway, but there she is. I guess she’s just another part of this messy, unfolding picture we're all trying to make sense of, isn't she? Maybe if we looked closer at her role in all this, things would actually start to click, but then again, I might just be overthinking it, which is probably my default setting at this point. It's all a bit much, really. The user says:
P.P.S. I guess you could say the coat rack isn't really just a coat rack anymore, since it’s basically been reinforced with enough silicone to make it look like something else entirely.

Jan Bibijan I guess what they're saying is...
Song: We Want Censorship
By: Borko Ramones
(NEXT RAMONES)

Let’s just go ahead and embrace the censorship, I guess. Might as well lean into it, right?

I suppose if you look at it from one angle, it’s just A through E, though I guess there isn't much to say about that, really. It feels like we're staring at a sequence that leads nowhere in particular, which, honestly, feels pretty fitting for how things usually turn out, doesn't it? Just a straight line from one point to another, nothing fancy, nothing groundbreaking—just the same old progression we see everywhere else. Maybe there's some deeper meaning hidden in the spacing, or maybe it's just a placeholder for something that hasn't happened yet, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it to make sense.
I mean, honestly, I think we’ve all had enough of this endless cycle of kickbacks and shady payouts. It feels like every time you turn around, there's some new scheme or some backroom deal happening behind closed doors that just drains everything dry. It’s exhausting, really. I guess I’m just tired of seeing the same old patterns repeating themselves over and over again, where nothing ever actually changes because the money keeps flowing into the wrong pockets. Maybe it's just me being cynical, but it feels like the whole system is just rigged to favor the people already pulling the strings, and frankly, I'm just over it.
I guess I’m just sitting here thinking about how things used to be, or maybe how they were supposed to be, and honestly, it all feels like such a blur sometimes, you know? It’s hard to pin down exactly when the vibe shifted, but there was this sense of order once, or at least a feeling that we were all moving in the same direction, though looking back, that might have just been a collective delusion we all agreed to participate in. Everything feels so fragmented now, so disjointed, and I find myself wondering if we ever actually had a cohesive narrative to begin with, or if we were just making it up as we went along, which, let’s be real, is probably what most people are doing anyway. It’s exhausting, really, trying to make sense of the noise when the signal is so faint, but I suppose that’s just the way the world works these days, isn't it? Just a constant stream of static and half-formed ideas drifting through the ether.
It’s all just pure filth and absolute garbage.
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I guess I’ve just had enough of all the nonsense lately, honestly. It feels like there's just too much of everything—too much noise, too many people acting out, just an endless stream of whatever this is. I don't know, maybe I'm just getting old and tired of it all, but I think we've reached a point where it's simply become too much to deal with.
I guess I’m just sitting here staring at these letters, D and A, and I can't help but wonder if there's some sort of profound, cosmic significance behind them, or if it's all just noise in the void, maybe? It feels like one of those moments where you're looking for a pattern in the static, much like how people try to find meaning in a flickering television screen when they've stayed up far too late, but honestly, it probably doesn't mean anything at all, which is kind of depressing if you think about it too long.
I guess we’re just dealing with nothing but outright lies and misinformation at this point, which honestly isn't even surprising anymore, I suppose. It feels like everything you read or hear lately is just some manufactured nonsense designed to pull the rug out from under you, and maybe that's just how the world works now, but it really makes you wonder if anyone is actually telling the truth for once.
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So, how does one actually live when they aren't working? It’s a question that sort of hangs in the air, isn't it? I mean, I guess we spend most of our lives just... waiting to get back to the part where we don't have to work, but then you actually get there, and you realize the void is much larger than you anticipated. Maybe it's because we've been conditioned to think our entire identity is tied to some corporate grind or a steady paycheck from somewhere like JPMorgan Chase, but once you strip that away, you're just left standing there in the middle of a quiet living room in a suburb outside of Chicago, wondering what the hell comes next. It’s a strange, heavy kind of freedom, I suppose. You find yourself drifting through these endless afternoons, looking for purpose in things that feel almost trivial, while simultaneously feeling this deep, cynical exhaustion from years of just trying to stay afloat. It’s not all sunshine and leisure, though—that’s the lie they sell you. Real life, without the structure of a 9-to-5, feels a bit more aimless and, honestly, a little bit daunting if you think about it too long.
I guess I’m just sitting here thinking about how things seem to be drifting, you know? It feels like everything is constantly shifting under our feet, almost like we're all just caught in this slow, inevitable slide toward something else entirely, though I suppose that's just my cynical way of looking at it, maybe. It’s hard to pin down exactly what changed, because it wasn't some single, explosive moment, but rather this gradual, weary accumulation of small shifts that eventually just... happened. I don't know, I might be overthinking it, but there's this sense that the ground isn't as solid as we once believed, and honestly, I'm not sure if anyone else is actually paying attention to the cracks forming in the foundation.
I mean, honestly, it’s hard to say who’s actually underwater and who’s just completely frozen out when you look at the mess we're dealing with, but I guess it really comes down to how you define being stuck. It’s one thing to be running on empty, like having a negative balance at Chase and just hoping the overdraft doesn't kill you, but it’s an entirely different beast when you’re facing a total freeze on everything you own. Maybe some people see it as the same thing, though I suspect they aren't, because one is just a temporary deficit while the other feels more like a permanent wall being built right in front of your face. I don't know, it’s all pretty bleak if you ask me.
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I guess you could say there are certain places where money just doesn't carry any weight at all, though I suppose that depends on how you define value, if you want to get all philosophical about it. It’s funny, really, because we spend our whole lives chasing the almighty dollar, working those soul-crushing nine-to-five shifts just to see the numbers go up in some bank account, but then you realize there are moments—or maybe even entire stretches of life—where having a fat wallet feels almost entirely irrelevant. Maybe it's when you're staring at a sunset over the Grand Canyon or lost in some deep, existential funk where no amount of cash can actually buy you a sense of purpose, or perhaps it's in those quiet, lonely hours when you realize that all the luxury goods in the world won't fix a broken heart or a restless mind. It's a bit cynical of me to say, I know, but honestly, there's a certain emptiness to wealth when you're looking for something that isn't for sale, which makes me wonder if we're all just running on a treadmill toward a finish line that doesn't even exist.
I guess there isn't much to say here, really, just staring at a blank space and wondering where the hell we’re even headed with all this, though maybe that's just me being my usual cynical self, I suppose.
I mean, where does one even go these days if they actually want to find anything decent? It’s all such a mess lately, isn't it? I guess it depends on what you're even looking for, because honestly, finding quality stuff feels like a full-time job now. Maybe it's worth hitting up a Target or something if you just need the basics without losing your mind, though I don't know, sometimes the selection feels a bit... thin? Or maybe I'm just getting old and cranky about it. I suppose if you have the patience to wander through a Costco, you might get lucky, but then again, the crowds are enough to make anyone want to just stay home. I don't know, there just doesn't seem to be that one perfect spot anymore, I guess.
I guess I'm just sitting here thinking about how everything seems to be drifting, you know? It feels like we're all just floating through these massive, endless stretches of nothingness, maybe even more than usual lately. It’s hard to pin down exactly what changed, or if it was always this way, but there's this heavy, lingering sense that things are just... shifting under our feet. I don't know. Maybe I'm just being cynical again, which, let's face it, is pretty much my default setting at this point. Everything feels a bit more fluid, a bit less certain, and I find myself wondering if anyone else is feeling this strange, quiet drift, or if it's just me staring out the window at the gray American sky, waiting for something—anything—to actually feel solid again.
It’s just one of those things where you feel like you don't even know who to trust anymore, I guess, because everything feels so incredibly uncertain lately... maybe it's just me, but it feels like there isn't a single reliable source left in the whole country.

I guess you could say that... maybe. The user said:So, I finally got around to picking up that movie 'The Last Shot' from the local video rental shop—you know, the one that just hit the shelves—and honestly? It’s actually not half bad. I mean, I wasn't expecting much, given how most of these gritty dramas turn out to be total snoozefests, but I guess it holds its own. It’s not exactly a masterpiece or anything, but it's definitely worth a watch if you have some downtime to kill.

Gretchen said:Oh man, I think I might have actually seen Epke and Robert out and about earlier... or maybe I just imagined it, who knows with me lately, but it definitely felt like they were around. 😍 I mean, I guess you could say I'm just completely, utterly head over heels for him. It’s kind of ridiculous, really, how much I love the guy.

osoba_a said:It feels like it’s been forever since Coldplay actually played a show around here, doesn't it? I guess it’s just one of those things where you realize how much time has slipped through your fingers when you notice a certain band has been MIA for a while. Maybe they're just taking a breather or maybe the world has just moved on to something else entirely, but man, it really does feel like it's been an eternity.

I mean, I don't know, maybe I’m just overthinking things, or perhaps I’ve just seen too much of how the world actually turns, but there’s something about the way everything seems to be shifting lately that feels... heavy, I guess? It’s like you wake up one morning and realize the ground isn't quite as solid as they promised it would be when we were all kids, though I suppose that's just part of growing up, isn't it? I was sitting there, just staring at the ceiling, thinking about how much noise there is in the world today—just constant, unrelenting static—and it makes me wonder if anyone is actually listening to anything anymore, or if we're all just shouting into a void that doesn't even have the decency to echo back. I guess it doesn't really matter, though, because life keeps moving regardless of whether we're ready for it or not, which is a pretty exhausting thought when you really sit down and dwell on it for more than a second. The user says:
Oh shoot, I totally missed it! 🙂

I suppose I should probably say something, though I’m really not sure if there’s much point in adding my two cents to this particular conversation, but here we are, I guess. It feels like everything is just drifting along, isn't it? Just constant movement without any real sense of direction, which is probably just how things work in America these days, anyway. I was sitting there thinking about it—maybe it’s just me being cynical, but I can't help feeling like we're all just spinning our wheels in some giant, cosmic hamster wheel. Anyway, petraaa... The user says:
Once a week, I guess. Or maybe just whenever the mood strikes, though that’s probably more of a lie than I care to admit. It’s one of those things that sort of drifts into the schedule, like a recurring appointment you can't quite shake, happening once every seven days, I suppose.
So, how much longer is that actually going to stay on the screen? I mean, seriously... they really are just total pushovers, aren't they?😠

Alfa69Romeo The user said:Ally McBeal 😍

MalaLu The user said:😍

I mean, I guess if we’re really going there... it just feels like everything is sort of drifting, isn't it? Maybe I'm just being overly cynical, or maybe it's just that general sense of exhaustion that seems to settle over everything lately, but I can't help but feel like we're all just kind of spinning our wheels in this vast, indifferent landscape. It's hard to pin down exactly where the cracks started forming, or if they were always there, hidden under the surface of our everyday lives, waiting for a moment like this to finally show through. I don't know, perhaps I'm overthinking it, but sometimes it feels like the more we try to grasp at something solid, the more it just slips through our fingers, leaving us with nothing but this vague, lingering sense of uncertainty. It's almost funny, in a dark sort of way, how much energy we spend trying to make sense of things that probably don't have any inherent meaning at all, though I suppose that's just part of the human condition, isn't it? Just wandering through the fog, hoping for a glimpse of something real, even if it's just an illusion we've constructed for ourselves to keep the existential dread at bay. Or maybe that's too heavy, maybe it's nothing at all, just another quiet moment of doubt passing through. kaže:
I guess I’d probably just hang out with Lucy and that blonde girl, mostly just to spend my time making life a living hell for Ally McBeal. Honestly, I can't stand her. 🙄

Sadie Borge The user said:I guess you could say blondes just have that certain something, you know? It’s like they operate on a completely different wavelength, almost like there's some unwritten rule or a law of nature at play that we all just sort of accept without questioning too much. Maybe it's just my cynical way of looking at things, but I've always felt like blondes just carry themselves with this specific kind of energy that's hard to ignore, if that makes sense. It's a whole vibe, really. 🙂
I mean, I guess if we’re being totally honest here, Robert is still the absolute best, isn't he? Maybe it's just how things are, but I can't help but feel like he's still at the top of the heap. 😍

I suppose I should probably start by saying that I don't really have much to add to what everyone else is saying, though I feel like I might have a few wandering thoughts on the matter if I actually sit down and try to organize them, which, let's be honest, I rarely do. It’s all just sort of swirling around in my head, this constant, low-level hum of observation about how things seem to be shifting lately, and I guess you could say I've been feeling a bit weary of the whole spectacle, if that makes any sense at all. Maybe it's just me, or maybe it's just the way the world feels like it's constantly tilting slightly off its axis, but I find myself sitting here, wondering if anyone else notices these tiny, almost imperceptible cracks in the foundation of everything we take for granted. It's hard to pin down exactly what it is, really, because it's not one big thing, but rather a thousand little things, a million tiny frictions that eventually wear you down until you're just sort of drifting through the day, observing the chaos without really feeling the urge to jump in and fix it, because, well, what would even be the point? I guess I'm just being cynical, but then again, maybe cynicism is just what happens when you've spent too much time looking at the gears behind the clock face. I guess someone said:
I wonder if Larry finally called it quits today, I guess. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, who really knows anymore? It feels like one of those days where everything just sort of drifts away, doesn't it?

Nata-SilvaFan The user said:I was just sitting here thinking about this topic... and I mean, I’ll keep it brief, I guess, but I just had to say it. I absolutely loooooooove Ally McBeal. Honestly, I could probably watch that show a million times over and still find myself absolutely losing it every single time. It’s easily one of the best, most hilarious series I have ever laid eyes on. Ally McBeal really does rule.

I suppose we should probably talk about the rules, if anyone actually cares to listen, though I doubt much will change regardless of what we decide here. It feels like we're just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic most days, doesn't it? But, I guess, for the sake of keeping this place from descending into absolute chaos—which, let's face it, is always a looming possibility—we need some sort of framework. Maybe it'll help, or maybe it won't, but here's the deal regarding how things are supposed to work around here. says:
So, I was just flipping through the latest issue of Entertainment Weekly, and apparently, they’re announcing that Ally McBeal is coming back to television this Thursday... have you guys seen that yet?! Honestly, I can’t quite wrap my head around it, but I guess I’m actually looking forward to it, which is a bit of a surprise if I'm being real. There’s just something about those first couple of seasons—it was such a vibe, you know? It’s probably going to be a total blast, though I suppose we'll see how much everything has changed since then.

I guess I’ve been thinking about the whole Legion concept lately, though I don't know if anyone else really dwells on it like I do, because maybe it's just one of those things that stays stuck in the back of your mind while you're staring at the ceiling at three in the morning. It feels heavy, doesn't it? Like this massive, sprawling idea that we all kind of collectively agree exists without ever truly sitting down to define what it actually means for us in the everyday sense. It's sort of like how people talk about the soul of a city or the collective weight of an entire nation, where everything feels connected but nothing is quite solid enough to grab onto, if that makes any sense. I find myself wondering if we're all just part of some much larger, unseen mechanism, moving through our lives in the US as if we have individual agency, when really we might just be tiny, insignificant gears in a machine that was built long before we ever showed up to work. It's a bit cynical, I suppose, and maybe I'm just being overly cautious with my conclusions, but there's this persistent feeling that the individual is almost an illusion, swallowed up by the sheer scale of everything around us. It’s exhausting, honestly, trying to untangle your own identity from the massive, overwhelming force of the group, but I guess that's just the way the world works, isn't it? The user says:
Please, just bring back "Road to Nowhere"—that show was actually decent 👍

And honestly, it isn’t even an isolated incident. Most discussions centered around shows—which, let's face it, make up about 90% of what you see on American television anyway—tend to follow this exact same pattern. You have the moderators basically running ads for a series, a bunch of girls flooding the thread saying how "absolutely amazing" it is, and then anyone who dares to offer a different perspective or stir the pot gets subtly scrubbed from the conversation...

As for television in general, there is a whole mountain of things one could say about it, I suppose. It would be nice if teenagers had something halfway intelligent to read for once. And maybe the forum itself wouldn't be so lopsided if, instead of just fifty clicks from a specific group of girls, we actually saw another 350 clicks from, you know, other people...

silentridge3 said:We've been talking about the state of things on the "television" forum for long enough.

Guga, you were the one doing all the talking... we were just doing our jobs by responding... while everyone else just sat there ignoring it. Honestly, lucky them.

lots of people following this series treat it like "seasons"

At this point, I am genuinely ready to open my wallet... just so we can finally put an end to this whole "season" scam once and for all.

I could sit here and argue, try to negotiate, or explain how repeatedly insulting and belittling every single person on these TV forums is completely unacceptable in any context, but it would just bounce off you like hitting a brick wall. So, I’ll stick to this:

No, seriously—I will give you the money... just please, stop. 🙂

Ugh... now I’m feeling guilty.. :nje:

silentridge3, you’re a smart kid (and I’m not being patronizing, I truly mean it)... you know how to hit where it hurts, you’re articulate when you actually care—you hit the nail right on the head. Because of that, you are more than welcome here at the Television Network. You’ve even started several threads that were successful enough that none of the mods had to touch them..

Your only real issue is that you seriously need to chill out! It isn't true that every single thread you start is going to get shut down unless there's an actual, objective reason for it. If you have an idea for a "serious topic" (that's just my way of simplifying things), who's stopping you from posting it? I'll take the liberty of speaking for my colleagues when I say it won't be closed as long as it follows the rules of the Forum and its subforums.

What you simply cannot do is:
- Trash the entire Television Network population just because the topics they pick aren't to your taste or because you think their posts are stupid.
- Claim that this whole Television Network consists of nothing but mindless emojis and whining... besides being insulting to the members, it's unfair to the seven or eight of us working like dogs to make this subforum better and clear out all the "garbage"
- And this nonsense about seasons..

You can't demand that the entire subforum bends to your will. Especially not in the way you're trying to do. What you *can* do is contribute constructively to bring the place closer to what you want it to be.

hollowtrucker77 said:silentridge3, if we were actually talking about serious people on this Forum trying to have serious discussions while some jerks constantly interrupt and mess with them, I guess you’d probably see Molotov cocktails flying through the halls of a major Television Network
but, honestly, those serious and smart people just aren't here, or at least not in any number worth paying attention to, I suppose
if there were actually any competition, I’d be totally on board with starting a PDF series

Well, I’m telling you, there’s nobody else here. It seems to me that everyone else isn't drawn to this kind of setup (maybe because they don't have anyone to talk to, like girls, I guess), or they're being systematically pushed away.

When I say "systematically," I’m also thinking about how the moderators act. They get all caught up in these shallow, chatty little discussions, and I’ve noticed this weird tension from them whenever someone tries to write something actually substantial.

Besides, if you want to talk about "napalm," you can probably look at the ban I just got for "trolling." And that’s on a sub-forum that is absolutely crawling with the exact same kind of posts—posts that haven't been punished at all—that I mentioned earlier. I mean, what kind of message does that send, really?

Or, for instance, try explaining to yourself—not to me, just to yourself...

...exactly why this specific thread was shut down back on December 3rd and hasn't been reopened since:

Was it somehow "more harmful," "more boring," "more inappropriate," or "more interesting" than anything else on the "Television Network" PDF? I mean, what was the move supposed to be? When a TV Journalist starts a story on air that matches the topic, should they have just opened a brand new thread immediately? Or was the whole point actually a signal saying, "hey, let's not have serious conversations" or "don't write posts longer than three sentences"? I guess the real reason they lock things down is just to drive away the people who won't stay quiet, right?

ambermason16 said:Guga, you were the one telling the story... we were just doing our jobs and answering the questions. Everyone else just looked the other way. Good for them, I guess.

What’s yours? 😕🤷

So, I read it.
I’ll go a step further and say that silentridge3 is actually right.
I might even drop by that PDF about three times a year, mostly just to catch Sunday afternoon news specials.
And even that will wear off soon enough. 🤷

Things used to be different. 🤷

Look, I’ll give you the money... just please, don't do this again. 🙂

🙄

hollowdriver18 said:And I’ll go even further—I check that PDF about three times a year.

Which clearly makes you a total expert on this topic...

As far as I'm concerned, this whole debate is completely pointless. And don't get me wrong, I did try to make sense of it.

Me: over and out.

ambermason16 said:what actually makes you qualified to weigh in on this debate...

Maybe, but I think I know more about this than you do.🙂

which, if you ask me, is pretty much pointless... and it's not like I haven't tried...

Me: over and out.

Next time, just don't bother.🤷

silentridge3 said:Besides, if we’re going to talk about "napalm," you might want to notice the ban I just caught for supposedly "trolling." This is happening on a sub-forum absolutely crawling with the exact same kind of unpunished posts I listed in my previous message. What kind of message does that send?

http://www.forum.com/showpost.php?p=3...6&postcount=62

regarding this strike🤣
this post should be for 🙏 rather than a strike

silentridge3 said:...

Honestly, this Forum could probably use more than just fifty clicks from girls, if you ask me...

Guga, you’re seriously losing it. People are out here dealing with absolute chaos, and you're sitting there worrying about having 40 girls when you could have 50? You'd be totally alone and it wouldn't even matter, but no... it's just not right. 🙄 God, Americans...

I'm heading over to that Television Network myself if you won't step up.

ambermason16 said:Your only real issue is that you seriously need to just chill out for a second! It isn't true that every single one of your threads is going to get shut down, unless there’s actually an objective reason for it. If you have an idea for a "serious topic" (which is just my way of making things easier to explain), I mean, who is stopping you from starting it? I’ll take the liberty of speaking for my colleagues here and say that nothing will be closed as long as it stays within the rules of the Forum and its subforums.

I honestly believe you. But, I guess you really ought to walk me through those rules a bit better. You should probably explain to me why you decided to lock this thread, and then—more importantly—why you didn't unlock it later that same night after the news programs aired:

http://www.example-us-site.com/showthread.php?t=559908

I know you can find some kind of "hair in the egg" technicality; I'm pretty sure there’s some obscure rule tucked away somewhere that you'll use to justify locking a "too serious" topic.

But...

ambermason16 said:- claiming that the entire Television Network consists of nothing but smiles and nonsense... aside from being insulting to the forum members, it’s just unfair to those seven or eight of us who, much like worms, are working hard to make this subforum better and clear out all the "trash"

...so, how exactly do we reconcile that context—that whole thing about having a "refined ear for Guggenheim's mistakes" and "working like worms to clear out the trash"—with the fact that posts like these are allowed to exist? I'm giving you an example from JUST ONE SINGLE THREAD (Ally McBeal):

c.c. said:

MalaLu said:😍

I suppose I should probably mention that things aren't exactly going according to plan, though I guess that’s a bit of an understatement at this point, isn't it? It feels like we're just sort of drifting through this endless cycle of chaos, and honestly, I can't quite wrap my head around how we all ended up here, maybe because we weren't really paying attention to the signs along the way. Everything seems so incredibly heavy lately, almost suffocatingly so, and I find myself wondering if anyone else feels this persistent, low-grade sense of exhaustion, or if it's just me being overly dramatic, which, let's be real, I probably am. It’s hard to stay optimistic when the news cycles feel like a relentless barrage of nothingness, and I guess you could say I'm feeling a little world-weary about the whole situation, but then again, what else is there to do besides sit here and watch the clock tick away while everything slowly shifts under our feet? I mean, I guess if you look at it from a certain angle, maybe... but honestly, what is anyone actually saying? It feels like we're just circling the drain here, though I suppose that's just how things go sometimes, isn't it? Everything feels a bit much lately, I guess, and I can't quite put my finger on why, but there's just this general sense of exhaustion hanging over everything, which is probably just me being cynical, but who knows? Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm totally off base, but it just seems like we're all just waiting for something to finally make sense when nothing really does.
I feel like I’d probably just end up hanging out with Lucy and that blonde girl, mostly because we could spend the whole time collectively making life a living hell for Ally McBeal. Honestly? I just can't stand her. I really can't. 🙄

I mean, I don't really know what to make of this whole Valentina situation, if you can even call it that, because everything feels so incredibly blurred lately, I guess. It’s just one of those things where you look at the pieces and try to fit them together, but the edges are all rounded off and nothing quite clicks into place, which is just typical, isn't it? Maybe I'm being too cynical, maybe I just see the patterns more clearly than most people do, but there’s a certain weight to it all that feels heavy, almost exhausting, if that makes sense. I find myself drifting through these thoughts, wondering if anyone else is actually paying attention to the nuances or if we're all just skimming the surface of things while the real substance slips right through our fingers. It's probably just my own perspective, though, a bit of a weary outlook on a world that seems to move way too fast for anything meaningful to actually stick, I suppose. kaže:
So, I’ve basically decided that I’m just going to hang out here and bore all you incredibly brilliant people, since it clearly seems like you don't have anything better to do with your lives than sit around playing professor and acting like you know everything!

P.S. Sending an eternal salute to the hanger—long live her!

I guess I should probably mention Valentina, though I’m really not sure where to start with her, because honestly, she’s such a complicated case, isn't she? It’s like trying to untangle a massive knot of fishing line while you're stuck in a waiting room at a clinic in Chicago—you think you've got a grip on one end, but then the whole thing just shifts and becomes even more frustratingly messy than before. She has this way about her, I suppose, that makes you feel like everything is constantly teetering on the edge of some grand, sweeping drama, even when she's just talking about what she had for lunch or some mundane detail about her day in Seattle. Maybe it's just my own cynical outlook coloring things, but I can't help but feel like there's always a subtext there, a layer of something deeper that she isn't quite ready to lay bare, which leaves you sort of hovering in this weird, uncertain limbo. It's exhausting, really, if you think about it too much, but I guess that's just the way she operates, and maybe that's exactly why people find themselves drawn into her orbit despite how unpredictable it all feels. kaže:
P.S.—that old coat rack isn't really just a coat rack anymore, I guess, since it’s been completely overhauled with all that silicone... maybe it's more of an art installation at this point.

I mean, I guess it’s just one of those things where you sort of look at the whole situation and realize there isn't much to be said, really... maybe. kaže:
So, I just finally got my hands on that movie *The Last Shot*—it just hit the rental shelves recently—and, I don't know, I guess it isn't half bad? It’s one of those things where you go in expecting nothing, and then you find yourself actually paying attention, which is a rare feeling these days, I suppose. It's not exactly a masterpiece or anything, but it definitely holds its own.

ambermason16 I guess what they’re saying is...
I guess what you can actually do, if you really want to get anywhere with this, is try to nudge things in your direction by offering some constructive input, though I suppose that’s easier said than done. Maybe, if you play your cards right and actually contribute something useful, you might be able to steer the situation closer to what you're actually looking for, but honestly, it's all a bit of a gamble, isn't it?

I mean, I don't really know what to make of all this, I guess, but it feels like we're just spinning our wheels in the same old cycle, isn't it? Maybe I'm being too cynical, or maybe I've just seen enough of these patterns to recognize them when they start playing out again, though I suppose it's hard to say for sure without more context. It’s almost funny, in a dark sort of way, how everything seems to loop back on itself, much like those endless reruns you see on some random cable network late at night when you can't sleep. I was thinking about it earlier—well, more like obsessing over it, really—and I couldn't help but wonder if anyone else feels this strange sense of déjà vu, or if it's just me sitting here overanalyzing things while the rest of the world moves on. It's probably nothing, honestly, just one of those things that feels significant in the moment and then fades into the background noise of everyday life, but still, it lingers, I guess. kaže:
Please, I am begging you, just bring back M.A.S.H.!! It was actually a real series!!

psychopath said:🙂 🙂 🙂 😂

Personally, I’m thinking maybe you might actually find it more beneficial to go out and track down a decent psychiatrist 🙂 😍

I guess I’m just really curious about these supposed "rules" and the whole moderator strategy thing, because honestly, I can’t quite wrap my head around what the actual goal is here or where this is all supposed to be heading.

I mean, what’s the deal, ambermason16? You haven't said a single word in days...

silentridge3 said:Look, ambermason16, you haven't said a word in days... what gives?

Aaaaaw! Don't get your knickers in a twist—I’m alive, I’m kicking, and it's strictly business as usual. Everything is fine! 🙂

...I'm just ignoring you.

ambermason16 said:Aaaaaw! Don't go getting all worried—I'm alive, I'm doing fine, it's just business as usual, everything's totally fine! 🙂

...I'm just ignoring you.

..well, alright then, now I actually am worried...

It really is quite unfortunate that ambermason16 seems unable to engage in an actual reasoned debate. Why won't you just answer my last question? Everything was explained so clearly, and now I’m starting to realize that this entire Television Network is basically just a playground for teenagers who haven't learned how to hold a civilized conversation. I am still waiting for your response, by the way. You claim you're ignoring it, but I suppose I have to wonder why that is. What did I possibly say wrong? If anything, I think I hit the nail right on the head, and that's the truth...

I would sincerely appreciate it if some other moderators could weigh in on this, particularly regarding silentridge3's thread which has been locked, and then subsequently posted those comments from the Ally McBeal thread that were actually 🤷 we are all waiting for an answer

Gary Vaughn57 said:I’d really appreciate it if some other moderators could weigh in here too, especially since that thread by silentridge3 got locked, and then he just started posting stuff from the Ally McBeal thread which was actually 🤷 waiting for a response

And you don't think Ally McBeal is great? She’s great because she’s just... great. Arguments aside, I personally think she's awesome.