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What is MBST (Magnetic Resonance Therapy) actually like?

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Participants ironseal13Scott Allen10Paul Murphy2Samuel Morgan40Sophia Morris3Steven Peterson7Gregory Scott66Elizabeth Adams11hiddentiger5rapidfalcon54silentjackal52Dennis Kelly23Ashley Scott58northerncobra64
ironseal13 ironseal13 MemberOP
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#1 ·
Hey everyone—has anyone here actually gone through the treatment mentioned above? My mom’s doctor suggested she undergo ten sessions, so I'm trying to gauge what to expect. Has anyone been through this? Any real-world feedback would be appreciated.
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
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#2 ·
Maybe try fleshing out that opening post a bit more, but let's skip all those random links to private companies.
ironseal13 ironseal13 MemberOP
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joined Mar 2011
#3 ·
Scott Allen10 said:Try to expand on the initial post a bit more—just skip the links to all those private clinics.

I included that link because my mom actually went there for an exam. They’re one of the few places—along with those spas in a small town—that claims to have some kind of magnetic resonance tech for "regeneration." Honestly, I wasn't surprised when they suggested it for her lumbar bone marrow regeneration ( 😕 at least, that's what they told her)

Her spinal density scans are fine, but she has osteopenia in her left hip—she was diagnosed with hip arthritis about 15 years ago. So, this whole recommendation—especially since it targets the spine—feels less like medical advice and more like: "We have this machine, let's run it as often as possible to squeeze more money out of people," regardless of whether it actually helps their condition.
Paul Murphy2 Paul Murphy2 Newcomer
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#4 ·
I’ve heard that the hot springs in that small town are pretty much the only ones you'll find around this part of the country
Samuel Morgan40 Samuel Morgan40 Active Member
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joined Mar 2010
#5 ·
Even you decided to bump a thread from eight months ago just to get that thought out there.
Sophia Morris3 Sophia Morris3 Newcomer
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#6 ·
I hope nobody takes offense at me reviving a thread from five months ago, but I would truly value hearing from anyone who has firsthand experience with this specific treatment method. Of course, we all know that medical therapies rarely act in a uniform manner—what works for one person might fail another entirely—but when you are facing an illness, you tend to become willing to try just about anything worth a shot. Consequently, any insight or anecdotal evidence you can provide would be immensely helpful. Thank you!
Steven Peterson7 Steven Peterson7 Newcomer
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#7 ·
I wanted to share my personal experience with MBST therapy, which I underwent at the Spinalis clinic in San Francisco.
About a year ago, I was diagnosed with knee osteoarthritis—basically, I'd worn down the cartilage—so I decided to give MBST a shot. It’s been six months since the treatment ended, and honestly, I feel fantastic. The pain in my knees is completely gone, but what’s most incredible is that I’ve regained full range of motion.
Gregory Scott66 Gregory Scott66 Newcomer
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#8 ·
Just wanted to share my experience with MBST therapy: twelve months ago, I started an osteoporosis program at the Spinalis clinic in San Francisco, and I just picked up my latest scans. They show a 20% improvement. My doctor actually looked stunned when he saw the new densitometry results—he couldn't believe I’d made that kind of progress in a single year without touching a single medication.
I'd highly recommend this therapy to anyone.
Elizabeth Adams11 Elizabeth Adams11 Member
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#9 ·
To everyone here, I feel compelled to share my experience with the treatment at the Mall of America under Dr. Krpan at his clinic in Santa Barbara. I opted for MRI therapy to deal with debilitating pain caused by osteoarthritis and osteoporosis. During my initial consultation, Dr. Krpan assured me I had an excellent prognosis, predicting a 60% to 80% improvement in symptoms and up to a 30% increase in bone density.
The regimen consisted of 23 one-hour sessions, costing a total of $4233. Since I live in Monterey and was unable to drive, my son had to take me; with travel, each trip took about two hours and 45 minutes. I paid the full amount upfront in cash, yet no receipt was ever provided. I eventually reported this violation to the IRS, and only after nine months of their investigation did a receipt finally surface. Honestly? I highly doubt Dr. Krpan faced any actual consequences for failing to issue a receipt.
My goal is to warn anyone suffering from similar conditions—and indeed the entire American public—so you aren't defrauded, robbed, or humiliated as I was.
The reality is this: nine months after completing the treatment, a bone density scan showed absolutely no change from where I stood two years ago. In fact, my pain levels have actually increased by 30% to 50%.
My son and I returned to Dr. Krpan’s office to demand a refund—which represented four months of my social security benefits—but he refused. His behavior was rude, inhumane, and completely unethical. When we mentioned the doctors we saw for follow-up care, he simply scoffed, quoting: "Those people are mere amateurs and hacks; I mentored them all, and without me, they would be nothing. If it weren't for me, this type of treatment wouldn't even exist in America."
It seemed every sentence he uttered began with "I..." Eventually, he kicked us out, telling me my only options were to continue his specific treatment or rely on crutches and a wheelchair. He even threw in a single free session, which, predictably, did nothing.
Greetings from Monterey
hiddentiger5 hiddentiger5 Newcomer
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#10 ·
I came here hoping to actually learn something about the MBST method. Instead, I just see a couple of people from Florida and California patting themselves on the back.
It’s pretty suspicious that the accounts behind those names both signed up just to drop a single comment. To me, it smells like someone from Spinalis is just running a one-person PR campaign.
rapidfalcon54 rapidfalcon54 Newcomer
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#11 ·
Does anyone here actually have some firsthand experience with this? And I’m specifically looking for someone who has contributed more than just a single post to this forum.
silentjackal52 silentjackal52 Member
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#12 ·
Harold Rodriguez84 said:Ladies and gentlemen, I feel compelled to share my experience undergoing treatment at the Mall of America under the care of dr. Krpan at his clinic in Santa Barbara. Driven by debilitating pain from osteoarthritis and osteoporosis, I opted for magnetic resonance therapy. During our initial consultation, dr. Krpan assured me I was an ideal candidate with an excellent prognosis; he predicted a 60% to 80% improvement in symptoms and up to a 30% increase in bone density.
The regimen consisted of 23 one-hour sessions, totaling $4233. Since I live in Monterey and was unable to drive, my son had to chauffeur me, making each round trip nearly three hours. I paid the full amount in cash upfront, yet no receipt was ever issued. I eventually reported this violation to the IRS, and only after nine months of their investigation did a receipt finally materialize. One has to wonder: did dr. Krpan face any actual consequences for withholding documentation?
My intention is to warn others suffering from similar ailments and alert the American public so they are not defrauded, robbed, or humiliated, as I so clearly was.
In fact, when I underwent a densitometry scan nine months after the treatments, my bone density remained unchanged from two years ago, while my pain levels actually increased by 30% to 50%.
My son and I returned to dr. Krpan to demand a refund—which would have covered four months of my social security benefits—but he refused. His behavior was rude, inhumane, and utterly unethical. When we mentioned the specialists we consulted following his "therapy," he responded, and I quote: "Those people are mere amateurs and hacks; I mentored them all, and without me, they would be nothing. If it weren't for me, this type of treatment wouldn't even exist in America."
It seemed every sentence he uttered began with "I..." Ultimately, he kicked us out, stating my only options were to accept his treatment or rely on crutches and a wheelchair. He also tossed in a free session, which, predictably, did nothing.
Greetings from Monterey

Has anyone here actually had positive results using magnetic resonance therapy for osteoporosis?
Medications like Fosamax carry numerous side effects, and hormone replacement therapy is equally problematic.

Could a treatment plan consist solely of calcium citrate and Vitamin D3 drops? 🤔🤔
Dennis Kelly23 Dennis Kelly23 Newcomer
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#13 ·
Anyone here have any recent experience with IBM? I’m seriously considering it for my knee osteoarthritis, and man, I really hope it actually works for someone... The research papers look pretty promising on paper, but you know how it goes. It’s an incredibly expensive therapy, and honestly, hardly anyone even knows it exists. I'm sitting here wondering if it's worth pulling several thousand dollars out of my pocket for a shot in the dark. Does anyone have any actual impressions or stories to share?
Ashley Scott58 Ashley Scott58 Newcomer
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#14 ·
I’m really curious to hear about everyone's experiences here—has anyone actually gone through therapy and come out the other side feeling positive about it?
Dennis Kelly23 Dennis Kelly23 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2020
#15 ·
I’ve spent the last few days down a massive rabbit hole googling MBST... And look, the data is there. There's a ton of research out there, but most of it seems to be bankrolled by the manufacturers themselves. The results they show are incredible, though—it basically looks like the absolute gold standard for therapy if you're trying to avoid surgery. There was even one study involving about 4,500 patients dealing with degenerative diseases, and everything looked stellar, like everyone saw huge improvements.

BUT

I can't find a single damn credible review that isn't hosted on their own website or their official YouTube channel. I've been digging through American forums, searching through various international boards, looking everywhere... and nothing. Nothing besides maybe two or three negative stories from people who said it didn't work for them. How is that even possible? How can there be thousands of "satisfied" patients in these studies and all these medical recommendations, yet there isn't a single positive review on a random blog, a forum, or some guy's YouTube vlog? Of course, their own site is packed with testimonials and photos of happy people... it honestly feels just like those cheesy NutriBullet commercials or those overhyped products you see on Instagram ads.
Something just doesn't feel right here...
northerncobra64 northerncobra64 Newcomer
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#16 ·
Hey everyone. I noticed things have gone a bit quiet in here lately... So, anyway, I figured I’d share my own saga:

Back in mid-June 2022, I went in for an MRI on my right knee, and the radiologist's report basically said this: "Across the sagittal, transverse, and coronal MRI slices of the right knee using various imaging techniques, the signal intensities and morphology of the anterior and posterior cruciate ligaments, the medial and lateral collateral ligaments,
the patellar tendon, the quadriceps tendon, and the iliotibial tract all look normal. I don't see any signs of a medial or lateral meniscus tear; they both seem to have the right shape and signal intensity. However, there are fissures and delamination of the articular cartilage in the middle part of the femoral trochlea—covering an area about 17x12 mm—and on the medial facet of the patella (which looks like Grade 3 chondromalacia per the ICRS classification), plus some fissures in the cartilage of the medial femoral condyle (Grade 2 chondromalacia per ICRS). The articular cartilage in the other visible joint structures appears to have normal width and signal intensity."
There was almost no swelling in the knee. All the other bone, soft tissue, and neurovascular structures looked fine in terms of signal and shape.

CONCLUSION:

The MRI findings for the right knee point toward chondromalacia of the patella and femur."

Now, looking back, this whole mess was preceded by two different sports injuries.

So, July 2021: I had this massive burst of power during a sprint while playing soccer, and I actually recovered pretty well after a few months. I had to wear a brace for maybe seven days right after it happened, then I moved on to light walking and swimming, and eventually, a few months later, I could do squats and light jogging without much trouble; though, honestly, I had no clue at the time that my cartilage was already starting to go south.

It turns out I totally aggravated that old injury and made things way worse when I went out for some sprints in May 2022—something I definitely wouldn't have done if I'd known my cartilage was already compromised—and then I ended up needing that MRI because the pain in my knee and quad was just brutal (plus, my knee felt super unstable). I couldn't even walk a straight line for more than 10 or 20 steps. My outer quad would burn so intensely that I literally had to stop and sit down. That lasted for several weeks, I guess.

Right now, the knee doesn't really hurt when I'm resting or even just walking, but sometimes I get this tightness and a burning sensation in the lateral part of my quad where it meets the knee, and the sensation there feels a bit duller—like the blood flow is low or something. For instance, if I do a scratch test on that specific spot, it feels less sensitive than on my left leg. Sometimes, if I walk for a long time, I feel that burning where the middle of the quad meets the kneecap. It used to kill me whenever I walked down stairs, but I did some MBST therapy which clearly helped bring the inflammation down, so I don't have that stair issue anymore. Apparently, you can even regrow cartilage with that method, so we'll see; I mean, I feel a bit better, and it's been nearly three months since the treatment. My range of motion is great, as long as I don't put too much heavy load on the knee. I do get some clicking and popping sounds when I squat, though (it doesn't hurt if I stay under 90 degrees—I tried it a couple of times just out of curiosity, but I don't actually do squats as a routine).

Currently, I’m taking Osteo Bi-Flex, Vitamin D3, K2, magnesium, and Omega-3s. I also use a massage gun on my quad quite a bit. I even picked up some ankle weights to do some light stretching and muscle strengthening exercises (I'll drop a link below). Every night, I stretch my quads on both legs—you really should do it on both sides to keep things symmetrical—lying on my stomach (what works best for me is grabbing the leg with both hands and turning the foot inward toward the other leg). I also stretch my hamstrings while sitting on my glutes. You can also work your quads by sitting in a chair with something fixed in front of you, like a bed or a wall. Then, keep one foot on the floor and use the other to gently (or firmly; just gauge your own intensity, there's a video on the link) push against that fixed object. Don't move the chair while doing it because it's supposed to be a static exercise, which is apparently how you protect the cartilage from friction and wear [also, you should switch which leg is pushing after every set—whether it's for a few seconds or minutes—so you hit the quad from different angles and strengthen it better]. Another tip is to always wear shoes with good cushioning, like memory foam, or even just soft anatomical slides/sandals.

I put together a few YouTube links here that might help with managing pain, building up muscle strength, and maybe even helping with cartilage regeneration, though I guess everyone is different:
(though, honestly, based on my own experience, I wouldn't recommend standard squats or deep squats right now);
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The way things stand right now, I just can't do a deep squat without my knee absolutely throbbing for several days afterward, which is pretty rough since I'm only 32.

I’ll probably head back to get another knee MRI this May, just so I can compare the scans and see if regenerative stem cell therapy (along with all the other stuff I've been doing) has actually done anything at all.
I'll be sure to post the results here once I know, don't you worry about that.

Please, share whatever experiences, knowledge, or recovery methods you guys have found, because who knows, maybe it'll actually help someone else out 😁

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