Quote: Nixon 1968 - Moderator for astrology

P.S. Also, when you're grabbing those posts, try to grab the whole thread next time (you left out your own replies up there).

Lisa Cox4 said:So, you're complaining on behalf of everyone on the forum. That’s just not how we do things here.

Look, you missed the point—you need to specify exactly which rule was broken and why it specifically affects you.

Well, alright then, alright then, alright then

I guess I wasn't being clear, huh? 😁

I'm speaking for myself, honestly. What bothers me about this PDF is the insults and the trolling that nobody seems to touch. If that's still fuzzy, I can try explaining it again tomorrow, maybe via a private message, just so I don't clutter up this thread. 🤔

I didn't bother pulling my own posts from the sequence above because they don't break any rules and, more importantly, they stay on topic. If you disagree, feel free to highlight them yourself, tell me what's wrong, or just let the mods handle it however they see fit.

All this back-and-forth and stalling isn't really my thing. I have much better ways to spend my evening. 👋

Olivia Mitchell14 said:So, so, so

Was I being unclear or something? 😁

I'm complaining on my own behalf here because what bugs me personally about this forum is the insults and the trolling that just goes unchecked. If you're still struggling to grasp that, I can try explaining it again tomorrow—maybe via DM so I don't keep cluttering up this thread. 🤔

I didn't bother pulling out my previous posts because they haven't broken a single rule and, more importantly, they're actually on topic. If you disagree, then be my guest—go ahead and pick them apart, tell me what's wrong with them, or just penalize them if that's what the mods think is right.

I honestly don't have the patience for your dragging things out. I've got much better things to do tonight. 👋

Look, you can't just spam this thread; it's meant for clearing up confusion. You started this whole thing, so you need to see it through... otherwise, what you're doing is either pure trolling or just straight-up harassing the site staff (and believe me, someone actually reads these complaints).

Lisa Cox4 said:P.S. Also, when you're copying posts, try to grab the whole thread next time (you left out your own replies above)...

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Like, take those people with over 100 posts wiped from that Offtopic section who are all somehow linked to how you just ignored everything happening in astrology, which basically let the whole mess spiral out of control... The Admin has been notified about this, and I actually have this one super weird situation where posts just magically vanished right after a complaint was filed regarding how you moderate or just fail to keep things in order. I’d much rather explain the connection to someone unbiased, and honestly, without being mean, I don't think you are...

I don't owe you any specific examples or even feel like giving them since you've been totally ghosting my DMs for months regarding complaints about constant insults like calling people "unhinged" and stuff... I'm just handling everything else with the right objective people now, especially since you had over half a year to show some neutrality and it's pretty clear you didn't really do anything about it...☕

Well, it looks like hollowdriver18 is the only one trolling here. Again.

I mean, if you have eyes and can actually read, my grievance should be pretty obvious. It’s not like I didn't just copy and paste the posts to show what I mean. 🤷

Look, I just want Lisa Cox4 to come out and explain herself to everyone once and for all.

She dropped this little "problem" into the subforum, claiming there's a bunch of obsessive clones running around stealing people's virtual identities—which basically means stealing someone else's smileys 😕—and that they're also using up incorrect personal astrology data (you know, sun signs, rising signs, etc.).

The thing is, she’s never actually specified who she's talking about or why. And how would she even know anyone's true astrological combination anyway? Like, knowing the exact moment someone was born, down to the minute.

It’s even more ironic that, as an astrologer who works with other people's birth charts, she won't even reveal her own.

As far as I know, she’s only pointed the finger at one other user so far—Shakira—insinuating she's a clone.

If she's so certain, I'd love to see her just say it clearly: who is whose clone, who is stealing which virtual identity or smileys, and what everyone's actual, legitimate astrological makeup is.

Everything else feels like nothing more than stirring the pot, creating confusion and harassing the members.

Here are some posts regarding this whole situation:

I really wonder how much leeway a moderator has to throw these kinds of accusations at users without offering a single logical explanation or proof. Tomorrow, it could easily be me being accused of trolling. 🤷

hollowdriver18 said:it’s honestly hilarious how someone who’s been absolutely tearing apart the sub for years suddenly has such an issue with people using "inappropriate language"

man, the cursing on this Chat is just next level... ☕

I’ll just add that all this massive outburst of nonsense (🙄🤣) is basically just a little mouse compared to all the absolute garbage you helped create or co-create over on Astro...

you really oughtta be ashamed...

It’s pretty hard to take anyone seriously as a standard when they only know how to say "omg lol" regarding astrology...

Besides, the whole point of this sub is supposed to be sharing knowledge and learning together, so where's the actual issue? All we ask is for everyone to play nice in the forum, and I think the sheer amount of replies from certain folks really shows the dedication, the good vibes, and most importantly, the commitment to learning astrology...

Olivia Mitchell14 (myself, along with plenty of others who feel just as frustrated) participates regularly and respectfully as a member here, contributing her own perspective, and isn't that exactly what helps a community grow?...

I’m not looking for an answer from you, just from people being objective. You can check profile Olivia Mitchell14 whenever you want to see her post history and everything else; it's all right there for anyone to verify. Honestly, I don't think there's anything else to say about it...

Olivia Mitchell14 said:I’m honestly wondering how far a moderator can go with these kinds of accusations against individual users without actually stepping up to provide a logical explanation or any real proof.

Look, on this forum, users are allowed to have clones as long as their original account hasn't been banned—and yeah, they can even have multiple ones. A moderator can act just like any other user and ask people not to do it, especially if they feel it's hurting the quality or the overall "vibe" of the community. That's exactly what I did. If the user doesn't want to fix it, the moderator can't just drop a ban on them for it; you just have to accept that your attempt at persuasion didn't work. And that's precisely what I did.

Besides, every single link you listed leads back to Chat topics. So, once again, you haven't actually specified what you're complaining about regarding the moderator of astrology—which specific rule are they supposedly breaking?

Lisa Cox4 said:On this board, users can run clones as long as their main account hasn't been banned. They can even have multiple ones. A moderator—just like any other regular user here—can ask people to stop doing that, especially if they feel it might help maintain quality or a "healthier" vibe on the forum. That’s exactly what I did. If the user doesn't want to fix it, a moderator can't just ban them for it; you just have to accept that your attempt to steer things didn't work. So, I accepted it.

Besides, all those links you mentioned are from the chat thread. So, once again, you haven't actually specified what exactly you're complaining about regarding the moderator for the astrology section—which specific rule are we talking about here?

The user in question only posts in the chat thread.

But I already stated what my issue was regarding your work on the astrology PDF. Can anyone else chime in here? How long is Lisa Cox4 going to keep repeating the exact same thing?

Grace Smith said:☕

Like, what about those hundred-plus posts getting nuked from that Offtopic section? They’re all somehow tied back to how you just sat there and ignored everything regarding the astrology drama, which basically let the whole mess spiral out of control. The Admin has already been looped in, and honestly, I’ve even got this one perfect little situation saved that makes it pretty obvious why certain posts suddenly vanish right after a formal complaint is filed about your failure to actually moderate or keep things civil. I’d much rather explain the link to someone who isn't biased—and since I don't think you're being insulting, I'm assuming you aren't one of those people.

I'm under no obligation to list specific examples for you, especially since you've spent months completely ignoring my DMs regarding the constant insults like being called "unhinged" and stuff... I'll just deal with the actual objective parties from here on out. You had over half a year to prove you could be fair, and frankly, it's pretty clear you haven't lifted a finger. ☕

So, Grace, let me say it again—I don't see any point to this post other than pure trolling and harassment.

Doesn't an astrology chat fall outside the scope of the astrology moderators' jurisdiction? 🤷

Since I was actually hanging out in that chat when it happened, I felt like adding my two cents... honestly, all you really did was call out a member for doing something she’s totally entitled to do under the site rules, which just ended up causing a massive mess and making things super awkward for everyone involved for way longer than necessary before you even made the "accusation," especially since you could have just sent her a quick PM to share your thoughts instead of jumping in publicly with that whole "guilty until proven innocent" vibe over something perfectly allowed among decent people... without all those little snarky comments like "we'll see how this story ends" (which basically means "wait until we hit page 100 of this thread").

The way you handled it was just straight-up bullying all the other people in that thread...

I mean, seriously, who even acts like that? 😕 It goes against every rule in the book, including the moral ones you keep preaching about, because those rules are supposed to ensure "innocent until proven guilty," not what you were doing by acting like the complete opposite...

A single chat isn't your territory to moderate, yet you unceremoniously jumped in to critique Olivia Mitchell14's posts in that same chat using moderator logic that wasn't even needed, since she was just sharing her opinion without attacking or calling anyone out. Just an opinion... 🤷

You're just creating confusion... you're "reading" people all wrong and then coming down on them so hard. You don't even react when people are being offensive, even though the other moderators are always quick to step in at the slightest hint of it. 🤷

Even when something isn't directed at you, you "read" it through your own lens, and then it just comes down to how much tolerance the person you misread has, while in situations where it's crystal clear someone is being insulted—and exactly who they're targeting—you stay quiet just because you claim it happened in a chat. 🤷

The issue is real, otherwise people wouldn't be complaining this much. Something needs to change, and I think a good place to start would be realizing that you aren't stepping in to stop insults because you're being subjective about it...

Lisa Cox4 said:So, Grace Smith, let me say this again—I honestly don't get what the point of this post is if it's just you trying to troll or mess with me...

Oh, so now me pointing out how I spent months being insulted, reaching out to you via DM over and over again only for you to do absolutely nothing about it, is considered trolling?

Sorry, but I am definitely nobody's "psycho"...🤷

It’s not me trolling here, it's just the cold, hard reality of how nothing was done about all those insults on that PDF file...🤷

Olivia Mitchell14 said:And what am I even complaining about regarding your work on the PDF? I clearly mentioned astrology. Can someone else here actually step up and react? How much longer is Lisa Cox4 going to keep repeating the exact same thing over and over?

Look, you didn't really point out anything specific, and you didn't say anything when it was bothering you earlier—so now you get an answer from the admin. Whatever.

Grace Smith said:One single chat isn't the entire moderation sphere, but you still went out of your way to target Olivia Mitchell14's points in that specific thread using "mod logic." It felt unnecessary because she was just sharing an opinion—not pointing fingers or calling anyone out. Just a thought... 🤷

Oh, thanks for the reminder... Honestly, I’m dealing with similar treatment from that moderator in the chat topic. She seems to misinterpret my words—whether it's by accident or on purpose—to make them sound rude or offensive when they aren't. It feels like she’s twisting things just to force me into commenting on moderator behavior. Even after I tried to clarify, she just keeps throwing the forum rules and her own authority at me, basically implying I'm in the wrong just because I disagreed.

I can dig up those posts if anyone actually wants to see them.

At the end of the day, I think this sub needs someone a bit less biased—someone who won't turn a small thing into a massive headache.