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Emily Martinez11 Emily Martinez11 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Does anyone have insight into the physiological logic connecting core workouts, running, and power walking to the health and function of organs like the stomach, gallbladder, or bladder?
I’m looking for something more specific than just a general statement about "improving overall health."
For example, we know Kegel exercises strengthen the pelvic floor muscles, which helps reduce frequent urination. Is there a similar direct correlation between abdominal training and stomach function?
Best regards,
s.
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
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#2 ·
Kyle Hernandez said:Does anyone happen to know if there is any underlying logic connecting core exercises, running, or brisk walking to the health and function of organs like the stomach, gallbladder, or bladder?
I am looking for something a bit more specific than just a general statement about how exercise improves overall organ function.
For instance, I know Kegel exercises strengthen the pelvic floor muscles, which helps manage bladder control issues. Is there a similar physiological analogy when it comes to abdominal workouts and the stomach?
Best regards,
s.

That is quite an intriguing question...
To be honest, I am not entirely sure I follow your line of reasoning... I am curious why you would suggest ab workouts might directly improve stomach function, or what specifically you were hoping to find out. With Kegels, you are essentially strengthening those specific muscles used to hold back a bathroom trip, which gives you better physical control. However, we don't really have voluntary control over our stomach muscles in that same way, so doing crunches won't "train" your stomach to behave differently. I suppose the connection is more indirect—by exercising, you burn off fat and reduce waste in the system. Since our bodies are accustomed to certain levels of sugar and fat, once we start burning them off, the metabolic processes speed up, which can kickstart digestion. Instead of reaching for a candy bar, you might find yourself craving fruit instead. So, in short, while exercise promotes faster metabolism and digestion, it won't "train" your stomach or intestines to hold out longer when you feel hungry.😉 😬
The only real connection I can think of is that overexerting yourself can actually exhaust your entire body, including your digestive system. While I am certainly no expert on the matter, I can tell you from my own experience—and from observing some of my colleagues at work—that when I push myself too hard during a workout, like a heavy cardio session or an intense aerobics class, if I don't pace myself and go all out right away, I often end up feeling nauseous or even needing to vomit.😢 It seems to be a symptom of the stomach simply being worn out by the physical stress.😉

I hope that makes sense... I am not quite sure how else to articulate these thoughts.😁
amberowl27 amberowl27 Newcomer
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#3 ·
I find myself dealing with this intense, gnawing cramping in my stomach whenever I attempt any kind of abdominal exercises. It’s honestly such a
distressing sensation that I’ve just stopped doing them altogether. To be fair, I am currently navigating some ongoing gastrointestinal issues that haven't quite been
sorted out yet, but even regardless of that...
Emily Martinez11 Emily Martinez11 NewcomerOP
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Carol Scott98;26426751 said:That's an interesting question...
To be honest, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that... why would ab workouts have anything to do with "improving stomach function" or whatever else you were trying to ask? With Kegel exercises, you’re contracting muscles similarly to how a woman might hold it when she needs to use the restroom. You're essentially strengthening those muscles so you can hold it longer before having to go. However, we don't have voluntary control over our stomach muscles, so doing crunches won't somehow "train" your stomach to work better. The real point is that exercising helps burn off fat and metabolic waste. Since our bodies are accustomed to certain levels of fat and sugar, once we start burning them off, the body tries to compensate, which speeds up the metabolism of all digestive organs. Instead of grabbing a candy bar during those times, you could opt for fruit. In short—exercise speeds up digestion, but it won't "train" your stomach or intestines to hold out longer when you're hungry. 😉 😬
The only thing you can really do is "exhaust" your entire body through overexertion, including your stomach. While I'm no expert, I can tell you that for me (and several of my colleagues), if I push myself too hard during a workout—say, jumping straight into intense cardio or an aerobics class after a long break without easing in—I often end up feeling nauseous and wanting to vomit... 😢 which is just a result of an "exhausted" stomach. 😉

Thanks for the detailed response. What you're saying makes sense, but since Kegel exercises strengthen the pelvic floor muscles—which is also an internal organ just like the stomach—it made me wonder if there was some connection between abdominal training and the stomach. Especially if fitness can cause the stomach to get "tired," maybe it plays a role in strengthening it too? I'm just guessing since I don't know, so I figured I'd ask.
Best regards,
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
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#5 ·
Thank you so much for such a thorough explanation. What you’re saying makes perfect sense to me, though I can't help but wonder if there's a deeper connection here. If Kegel exercises strengthen the muscles surrounding the bladder—which, after all, is an internal organ just like the stomach—I started wondering if there might be a similar link between abdominal workouts and gastric health. If intense fitness training can sometimes cause digestive issues, perhaps the core work itself is actually helping to tone those areas too? It's just a little theory of mine, as I'm certainly no expert, so I thought I'd ask.
Best regards,

Actually, Kegel exercises don't really strengthen the bladder muscle itself, but rather the sphincter and the lower pelvic floor, which is what allows us to control urination... I find it hard to believe we're strengthening the actual neck of the bladder (unless we're talking about the urethra? 🤔), because, as you pointed out, the bladder is an internal organ with muscles that aren't under our conscious control, so we can't exactly "work them out" 🤷

"...Kegel exercises strengthen the pelvic floor muscles, which helps restore vaginal muscle tone after childbirth, assists older women in maintaining urinary continence, increases sexual pleasure, and aids in the expulsion of cervical mucus and seminal fluid toward the vaginal opening..."
(http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/printables/)
Emily Martinez11 Emily Martinez11 NewcomerOP
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Carol Scott98;26462608 said:Kegels don't actually strengthen the bladder muscles themselves; they work on the sphincter, or the lower pelvic floor, which is what helps you "hold it." 🤔 I really doubt anyone is strengthening the muscles at the neck of the bladder (unless they meant the urethra?), because as you pointed out, the bladder is an internal organ. You can't consciously control or strengthen those specific muscles through exercise 🤷

"...Kegel exercises, which strengthen the pelvic floor muscles, help restore vaginal muscle tone after childbirth, assist older women with bladder control, increase sexual pleasure, and help clear cervical mucus and seminal fluid toward the vaginal opening..."

I have no idea where they got this idea about strengthening the bladder neck, but that is literally what it said. I don't bother with unreliable sources, so this was enough to pique my interest and get me to post. I’ll try doing them for a few years and let you know how it goes. :-)
I'm also curious if there's any connection to gastritis;
Every doctor is more than happy to run every test under the sun and write a prescription, but nothing actually works. I can't seem to get any real, actionable advice out of them—not even to start a meaningful conversation about it.

And where has the human touch gone? It's right back where it was during the Middle Ages (and honestly, things haven't been much better before or since).
Thomas Roberts9 Thomas Roberts9 Active Member
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#7 ·
Kyle Hernandez said:I am honestly not quite sure how there could be any connection between my neck muscles and bladder control, but I read it somewhere—and while I don't usually bother with unreliable sources—it was intriguing enough to make me want to post about it. I think I'll try practicing these exercises for a few years and then let you know how it goes. :-)
I am curious if there might be some sort of link to gastritis;
It seems that doctors are always eager to run every test imaginable and hand out prescriptions, yet it rarely provides actual relief; I struggle to get any specific advice from them beyond the common knowledge everyone already knows, and I can't even seem to start a real conversation about it.

Well, listen, the source could have been anything from a textbook to a professional journal or just some random website... 🤷
You shouldn't have to do Kegel exercises for years, because you usually start seeing results after just a few weeks (I wouldn't know from personal experience, of course, but that's what the books and the internet suggest, and it's also what a colleague of mine who does them regularly has told me 😉).

As for the doctors, you're absolutely right; the issue is that medical school essentially teaches them to treat people with pharmaceuticals rather than focusing on gut health (no holistic approach for anyone, I suppose! 😬), though many practitioners of alternative medicine would certainly disagree with them... but that's just how it is.
Maybe just pay attention to your gut and start exercising; perhaps you'll be the first person to actually uncover a definitive link between those two things. 😉

Kyle Hernandez said:And where has humanity gone? It went exactly where it was for the entire Middle Ages (honestly, things haven't really improved much before or since, have they? :-)

I find myself asking that question almost every single day... but unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a satisfying answer, as the kind of behavior we've been seeing lately isn't even typical of animals, let alone an intelligent species like ours. 😢 👎
(We have wandered a bit far off-topic, I suppose, but that is simply the way things are. 🙄)

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