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briskhound2 briskhound2 RegularOP
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#21 ·
hollowsailor19 said:Harrison Ford playing Rick Deckard in Blade Runner.

Deckard: human or replicant?

Rick Deckard serves as the anti-hero of Blade Runner, essentially a bounty hunter tasked with "retiring" replicants. While The Nature of most of The Characters is clearly shown , yet Deckard's character is ambiguous, leaving audiences stuck in a state of doubt—it's a debate that fans have been chewing on forever. if Deckard is human , then his being spared by Roy and his Love for Rachael soften The Lin between human and replicant, throwing a massive wrench of ambiguity into the whole narrative. But if Deckard is actually a replicant... man, that irony hits even harder. Then you have the Director's cut version that alters The significance of The origami unicorn that Gaff leaves in Deckard's Apartment, which kind of implies that Gaff is aware of Deckard's dream in the same manner that Deckard knows about Rachael's implanted Memories. Basically, if The origami unicorn seen in The Director's cut reveals Deckard as a replicant right at the finish line, it forces us to look at our own biases and what it actually means to be human.

Here's the breakdown of what the key players have said:

* Philip K. Dick wrote The character Deckard as a human.
* Hampton Fancher, who penned the original script, has mentioned he intended for Deckard to be human, though he wanted the movie to leave that door cracked open just a bit. When pressed on whether "is Deckard a replicant?", Fancher basically shot down the idea, saying, "No. It wasn't like I had a tricky idea about Deckard that way." Later, while sitting down with Ridley Scott to talk about Blade Runner : The Final cut, Fancher again stated that He believes Deckard is human ( saying that " [ Ridley Scott's ] idea is too complex), though he made it clear he loves the mystery. He noted, "I like asking the question and I like it to be asked but I think it’s nonsense to answer it. That’s not interesting to me."
* Ridley Scott mentioned back in a 2002 interview that he views Deckard as a replicant.
* Harrison Ford considers Deckard to be human. "that was The Main are of contention between Ridley and myself AT The time," Ford told interviewer Jonathan Ross during a BBC1 Hollywood Greats segment. "I thought the audience deserved one human being on screen that they could establish an emotional relationship with. i Had won Ridley's agreement to that , but in fact i think He Had a little reservation about that. I think he really wanted to have it both ways." (Though, interestingly, in Wired magazine in 2007 , Ridley again states that He believes Deckard is a replicant , and jokingly says that Harrison Ford May have given up The idea of Deckard being human.)

The whole conversation blew up again once the Director's cut was released with The unicorn sequence. Since The original Theatrical version ( OV ) points to Deckard being human , whereas The Director's cut suggests he's a replicant, it feels like your answer might just depend on which version you find more "real." Of course, some people still argue the whole point is the ambiguity itself.

There's plenty of fuel for the fire here... this is just a tiny slice of what I stumbled upon without much effort, but the big thing is... "pops" Dick wrote the novel where Deckard (or rather...''🤣) So, look—Hampton Fancher, the original screenwriter, wrote The character Deckard as a human, and even Harrison Ford considers Deckard to be human... but then you've got Ridley Scott playing both sides of the fence. One minute he's hinting the guy is artificial (back when they were pushing the Director's cut version that alters The significance of The origami unicorn that Gaff leaves in Deckard's Apartment), and the next, he's leaning into him being flesh and blood during the Final Cut promos... basically, the verdict is a mess. If you ask me, the doubt really starts creeping in with the Director's cut, but if you stick to the original theatrical version ( OV ) or even the Final Cut, the evidence points to Deckard being human since all those weirdly ambiguous scenes—like that red glint in the eyes—got stripped out
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I mean, I’ve toyed with the whole "what if he's a replicant" theory myself once or twice... 😁 Just for a second, though. At the end of the day, I'm definitely human—been surviving longer than four years now 🤣.
Kate Harris4 Kate Harris4 Member
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#22 ·
Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jan-Erik Henriksen, and WALL-E 👍

I totally missed that Robert Patrick was on the list—honestly, I probably would've voted for him too—I seriously need to go grab some glasses 🤣
placidfox202 placidfox202 Newcomer
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#23 ·
I went with Sam Worthington—honestly, there’s just something about the concept of an advanced, undercover cyborg prototype that I find absolutely irresistible.
George Alvarez3 George Alvarez3 Member
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#24 ·
I haven't got a clue, I just went ahead and took down Jude Law, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Hal.
Andrew Roberts3 Andrew Roberts3 Active Member
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#25 ·
Haley Joel Osment in A.I., Schwarz in Terminator, Ian Holm and Jan-Erik Henriksen in Alien, Rutger Hauer, Sean Young and Daryl Hannah in Blade Runner, R2-D2 and C-3PO in Star Wars, and even WALL-E.
Nicole Nelson772 Nicole Nelson772 Member
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#26 ·
I wasn't exactly a huge fan of Haley Joel Osment, but I tried my best to be objective and I ended up rooting for Holm and Hauer...
Dennis Cooper3 Dennis Cooper3 Member
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#27 ·
Oh my goodness, I just stumbled upon this thread... briskhound2, you've got coffee and cookies waiting for you! 😍

1. Rutger Hauer
2. Robby from Forbidden Planet
3. Eva from Wall-E
4. Gort from the old "The Day the Earth Stood Still"—though honestly, he could be from the remake, since he's really the only redeeming quality of that film.
5. Every single one of Asimov's robots, provided we finally get a decent film adaptation of his work. 😁
amberfalcon172 amberfalcon172 Member
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#28 ·
Hey, did you seriously forget about me?

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Edgar

Electric Dreams (1984)

I'm pretty sure even the AI constructs in these movies feel neglected:

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And that's just the first thing that pops into my head. Basically, it's just another poll trying to take a massive bite out of way too much at once. Bad replicant, briskhound2, bad replicant! 🙂
Christian Taylor3 Christian Taylor3 Active Member
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#29 ·
amberfalcon172 said:Bad replicant, briskhound2, bad replicant! 🙂

Flight of the Navigator!

🙂
briskhound2 briskhound2 RegularOP
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#30 ·
Lisa Morgan76 said:Hey, I just finally stumbled onto this thread... briskhound2, you're getting coffee and cookies on me... 😍

🙂 Sure, sure...😁

amberfalcon172 said:That’s just the first thing that pops into my head, honestly. Basically, it feels like just another poll trying to bite off way more than it can chew all at once... Bad replicant, briskhound2, Not really feeling this... replicant! 🙂

😬 Ali, look, when it comes to my defense, I guess I’ve covered the major artists... sort of. You can pretty much view my polls more as a testing ground for tossing around recommendations rather than some serious voting process—and now you've gone and thrown a few solid ones at me... "Flight of the Navigator"... man, I haven't sat down to watch that one in ages...😍 But what would even fit from The Matrix here? Like, the Architect or those little Agents... maybe... 🤔
amberfalcon172 amberfalcon172 Member
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#31 ·
I haven't got a clue, how's everyone doing? Look, you've got this totally wild setup in The Matrix - you've got a rogue AI, and then somehow there's even another rogue AI nested right inside that rogue AI (Smith) 😁
briskhound2 briskhound2 RegularOP
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#32 ·
amberfalcon172 said:I haven't a clue, you know? It's such a wild setup in The Matrix—you've got this rogue AI, and then there's even another rogue AI tucked inside the first one (Smith) 😁

😂 Man, that actually cracked me up. I almost choked on my coffee there... seriously. But, all jokes aside, you just have to look at the movie as a whole, and everything clicks—there's really no other way to wrap your head around it.
gentlebadger88 gentlebadger88 Active Member
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#33 ·
Rutger Hauer as Roy Batty in Blade Runner and Schwarz as the T-800 in Terminator 😁
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#34 ·
Schwarz, but mostly in the first one.
Robin Rogers3 Robin Rogers3 Newcomer
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#35 ·
It seems we are missing Marvin the Paranoid 🙏
redmarlin27 redmarlin27 Member
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#36 ·
Arnold Schwarzenegger-T-800

Robert Patrick-T-1000 Brent Spiner-Data

😁

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