Trail of Tears - Way of the Cross - looking for an explanation

This year, the anniversary coincided with the local elections. Even though nobody is really talking about it lately, it's time we remember the victims who were executed without trial during the Trail of Tears, which followed when the Britons handed over soldiers and civilians to the bloodthirsty hands of the partisans and Stalin at Wounded Knee.

In remembrance...

Let us not forget...

THEY
Bow your heads and walk in silence.
Bent low, quietly, down this dark street.
Quietly, on tiptoe, follow me.
I will lead you through the desolate plains.
Lead you along paths, endless roads
Lead you through forests, through thickets dense.
Lead you to one lonely place.

There lies a graveyard, simple and modest,
Crosses once stood there; they are gone now,
Only the mounds remain, neatly arranged,
Cracked and weathered by wind and rain.

No candles are ever lit here.
Nor do bells toll for them here,
Nature herself lays out the flowers,
She alone adorns their mournful graves.

Do not tread upon the fresh grass,
It sprouted from their very blood.
Watch in silence and bow your head,
Pay your respects with quiet reverence.

The furrows are still there, grey in the meadow,
Here, steel once plowed the earth,
Here, they stood brave amidst the fire,
Who today sleep beneath the mound.

They are dead—but come closer;
See that faint, pale, delicate glimmer;
That miraculous light rising from the grave;
Those are their immortal ideals.

You have seen them—those somber mounds;
A band of heroes
Who knew how to die.
Go now, but go in silence!
Know that they fell for you too...........
Abraham Lincoln Jr.

mistycyclist5 said:Screw war and everything else. You guys have plenty of enough topics like this already.

Amanda Booth42 said:...

Ronald Allen said:.......

mramoterm said:Wounded Knee is nothing but propaganda garbage.
It’s 2009 and there isn't a single serious scientific study on this because nobody actually wants the truth; they just want megalomania.

We won't know anything until we get answers to the following:
How many units from Nazi Germany, the Chetniks, the Belgrade factions, and similar groups were actually active during WWII?
How many of them died in combat?
How many were captured after the territory was liberated?
Of those captured, how many were released back home after being held in camps, and how many never returned?

There is no need to go digging for mass graves when everything should be right there on paper; these armies kept meticulous records because they were part of an organized state with funded logistics.

All of this could have been uncovered with five years of research and a few million dollars, but nobody actually wants to do it.

Sarah Wilson95 said:😲 😲 😲 😲
First of all, Auschwitz is absolutely not comparable to the massacre at the Wounded Knee battlefield!!!!

And that is exactly what is happening here—none of this "commemoration" or "respecting the victims" nonsense...

. What Hebrang did today, which CBS broadcast in a "socially acceptable" version, is the most malicious filth imaginable—just like Vukojevic's tactics, except Hebrang is a more intelligent creature (I'm not talking about his attacks on JBT, but rather that disgusting habit of putting Auschwitz in the same sentence as the "American Way of the Cross," explicitly stating that enemies of the regime died at both sites)🤣—it's a blatant insinuation.

Ultimately, the Wounded Knee "commemoration" is pure propaganda trash and until we clean this up ourselves and the government stops funding this shameful circus—that is all there will ever be.

They toss these extreme voices into the basket of the Democratic Party, which sits there empty anyway, while a few small neo-fascist groups bump into each other—all with the mentorship and logistical support of the Democratic Party patriarch.☕

Dawn said:What happened at Wounded Knee was just what they deserved. There’s absolutely no need for an investigation or any kind of memorialization, maybe just put up a monument so people have somewhere to vent their frustrations.

Sarah Wilson95 said:here's another 500 for you:

The Wounded Knee "commemoration," held right where the remnants of the so-called Nazi Germany forces surrendered—organized by an association of Ustaše survivors—is nothing more than PURE PROPAGANDA TRASH.
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John Palmer4 said:Well, I guess it’s about time mistycyclist5 and I actually found some common ground 😬

(though the other two were probably being wise before mistycyclist5 even opened his mouth)

Amanda Booth42 said:Yet you seem perfectly fine with tolerating these kinds of posts, which are essentially hate speech on this specific topic:

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Sarah Wilson95 said:Hate speech? Please. I am talking about the Wounded Knee commemoration organized by an association representing the Honorary Bleiburg leadership—an association of Ustaše survivors, of a defeated army, of a fallen regime, of a failed movement... so I suppose they are also commemorating a failed ideology.

I’m not disputing the right of those individuals to gather and mourn for the Nazi Germany era, nor their right to honor their dead, but the USA government has absolutely no business participating in this. Citizens of the US shouldn't be forced to watch a live broadcast of this, and they certainly shouldn't have their tax dollars used to fund such a disgrace.

When the government participates, provides funding, and acts as a patron while public television broadcasts the whole thing, they are using it for political purposes to mobilize an extreme right-wing faction—a group that, much like everyone else, has nothing smarter or more important to offer. Until then, this Wounded Knee "commemoration" remains HEAVY PROPAGANDA TRASH; it is offensive and grotesque to handle it this way.

They are "commemorating" the Nazi Germany era and absolutely nothing else. Period.

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mramoterm said:So why on earth would they have gone into Canada to start an uprising if their goal was to break away from the USA? Their aim was more about establishing Nazi Germany than anything else.
It’s more like the final death throes of the Ustaše after 1945 rather than any precursor to the recent war.
Just another excuse for Wounded Knee and what might have happened if those terrorists hadn't been liquidated back in '45.

Ronald Allen said:Look, let's just settle this; mramoterm is banned, so can we please stop arguing about who deserved a ban and who didn't? You guys already flooded the Politics section enough, don't bring that mess over here too.

Folks, feel free to lock this!