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Support resources for families dealing with cancer and other serious illnesses

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slyseal28 slyseal28 Member
11 messages
joined Mar 2007
#1421 ·
cosmiceagle4 said:The cure for cancer is already out there. It’s not some mystery we haven't solved; it’s just a matter of who is willing to admit it.
Honestly, I have to wonder: how much do they actually care about finding a cure for cancer? It’s hard not to be skeptical when you look at the sheer scale of the industry involved.

Honestly, this is incredibly unprofessional of you. I’m almost embarrassed to say it, but those were some seriously foolish remarks.

cosmiceagle4 said:There’s no such thing as an incurable disease. There are only people who refuse to be cured.

Statements like that are bordering on pure insanity. 🙂

cosmiceagle4 said:Here is the link to that Chinese study:
http://www.scribd.com/share/upload/5...vcd8dqq41b4q1i
Here is what my diet looks like lately:
http://www.scribd.com/share/upload/5...ldfh0tpcqg4ur0

Ty, those links you sent aren't working. I tried clicking through, but none of those pages featuring your "miraculous discoveries" actually load.
Grace Stewart6 Grace Stewart6 Member
37 messages
joined Mar 2009
#1422 ·
@cosmiceagle4/">@@cosmiceagle4
I skimmed through the text quite quickly, and if I’m interpreting this correctly, animal proteins are being cast as the primary villain here.
I have to admit, the sheer volume of conflicting dietary advice for cancer patients is somewhat disorienting.
One source insists on nothing but grains and vegetables while strictly forbidding fruit, yet another claims the exact opposite by emphasizing fruit and veg above all else. Then you have some suggesting starvation tactics, while others argue you should eat as much as possible to bolster the body's strength. How is one supposed to navigate such contradictions?
When my father was admitted to the hospital, I was honestly appalled by what they were serving him—mostly just pasta, potatoes, and rice. Now, I find myself wondering if there is some deeper logic behind such a diet, or if it simply boils down to whatever is cheapest on the menu.
Roger Hall15 Roger Hall15 Active Member
107 messages
joined Jul 2003
#1423 ·
Dear Vince, please accept my deepest condolences. 🙂
I am just so incredibly sorry for your loss, and for all the heartache you, your mother, and your sister have had to endure lately. I know you’ve got the strength to get through this, even with everything coming your way in the days ahead. Hang in there, dear Vince. 🙂
brightgardener8 brightgardener8 Active Member
157 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1424 ·
Thanks everyone for all the support 🙂
mistyridge5 mistyridge5 Member
25 messages
joined Jan 2012
#1425 ·
Hello everyone,

I haven't been around here for almost a month now.
Between doctor appointments, dealing with my viral issues, and finally squeezing in a quick trip, things have been quite busy.

The final test results—the ones following my chemotherapy—just came back, and everything is A-OK!!!

Of course, the happiness is overwhelming, and I suppose all those emotions are just starting to surface now.

brightgardener8, please accept my sincere condolences. I know how crushing those feelings can be. When my Mom passed away, I missed her so much (and still do), which makes me think so much about the suffering and pain she went through at the end..
Hang in there!!

So, what we have left is a box of Zofran—both the tablets and a box of ampoules (it's a pack of 4, consisting of 2 larger and 2 smaller ones).
If anyone happens to need them, please feel free to send me a private message. I'd love for them to go to good use... maybe help someone else just like they helped us...
cosmiceagle4 cosmiceagle4 Member
10 messages
joined Dec 2008
#1426 ·
Here’s the link. Anyone is free to download the document.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/8597253/Kinesko-istraivanje-1

I have absolutely no interest in this other than a simple desire to help whoever might find it useful. If I were looking to profit from this material, I certainly wouldn't be posting it publicly.

This stands as perhaps the most extensive study on carcinomas ever conducted.
We are looking at a serious piece of scientific research here.
The study involved a cohort of 860,000 people. It’s hard to imagine how anyone could simply overlook data on that scale.
This isn't just some neighborhood rumor or hearsay. Besides, it doesn't cost you anything to sit down and go through fifty pages of text.
Please, take the time to read it.
cosmiceagle4 cosmiceagle4 Member
10 messages
joined Dec 2008
#1427 ·
Grace Stewart6 said:@cosmiceagle4/">@@cosmiceagle4
I skimmed through the text pretty quickly, and if I understood correctly, animal proteins are being blamed for everything.
I have to admit, all this dietary advice for cancer patients is a bit confusing.
In one place, they recommend nothing but grains and vegetables while strictly banning fruit. Then, on the flip side, they suggest nothing but fruit and vegetables. Some people advocate for fasting, while others claim you need to eat as much as possible to strengthen the body. It’s hard to know which way to turn.
When Dad went into the nursing home, I was horrified by what they were feeding them—mostly just pasta, potatoes, and rice. Now I'm second-guessing myself, wondering if there might be some other reason for such a diet beyond it simply being the cheapest option.

Who exactly is banning fruit?

I've spoken with quite a few doctors who are already becoming aware that animal proteins act as a direct catalyst for cancer development.

Of course, cutting out animal proteins isn't enough on its own; more than 80 percent of your diet should consist of raw plant foods—meaning things that aren't thermally processed.
That includes grains, legumes (steamed, of course), nuts, fruits, and vegetables. Did I miss anything?

But even that isn't sufficient.
There are several factors that those dealing with malignant illnesses should follow with fanatical devotion:

Getting as much fresh air as possible,
moderate physical activity (some people think that just pacing back and forth counts, but you actually need to work up a light sweat),
drinking only plain water (ideally filtered, using a Brita or something similar)
healthy nutrition (there is Chinese research that backs this up),
rest—specifically eight hours of sleep,
and maintaining a peaceful atmosphere at home; faith, ideally involving prayer, and spending quality time alone with oneself and with God.

These are the true factors for healing.
Amanda Murphy62 Amanda Murphy62 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Nov 2008
#1428 ·
...read through it...nothing revolutionary, nothing new...we're just spinning our wheels...for years, everyone's been researching this in their own little silos...the truth is, there's no cure, and there won't be one anytime soon, unfortunately...I've had my fill of "miracle workers," researchers, big talkers, and empty promises.
Nicholas Hughes2 Nicholas Hughes2 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Oct 2008
#1429 ·
cosmiceagle4 said:Of course, just cutting out raw egg whites isn't enough—you’d need over 80 percent of your diet to be raw plant-based, which basically means nothing heat-treated.
That would include grains, legumes (if you steam them, I guess?), nuts, fruits, and veggies. Did I miss anything?

I won't quote the whole thing because I'm a bit rushed right now, but I really have to weigh in on this post...

I mean, seriously, what are colorectal cancer patients supposed to actually live on if they follow this logic? Since they aren't supposed to eat fruit except for maybe bananas—everything else has to be turned into compote...
And when it comes to vegetables, they can only have chard and spinach (oh, and potatoes!), but no tomatoes, no cucumbers... and don't even get me started on legumes
or any kind of grain
At this rate, they'd basically be living on nothing but chard and potatoes...🙄

Meat (and by meat, I mean everything except red meat) and white fish... according to doctors, they actually contain way more beneficial nutrients than they do harm.
Edward Bailey6 Edward Bailey6 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Aug 2008
#1430 ·
brightgardener8—my sincere condolences.
Edward Bailey6 Edward Bailey6 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Aug 2008
#1431 ·
mistyridge5-I am seriously so happy for you!!!!!!! Soak up every single second of it!!!!

Just wanted to drop a quick update—my father-in-law is doing way, way better. It’s been about a month since he started radiation... and honestly, they haven't told us anything yet regarding how many more sessions he needs. He’s actually got an appetite, which is good—everything seems pretty much within the normal range for now, I guess. The only thing is, we still don't know if his numbers have gone down, up, or just stayed exactly where they were.
cosmiceagle4 cosmiceagle4 Member
10 messages
joined Dec 2008
#1432 ·
Where did this notion come from that fruit is off-limits?
According to information found on the Pliva health pages:

Using fruits and vegetables to prevent cancer
Research conducted by scientists in the United Kingdom suggests that pectin—a type of fiber found in many fruits and vegetables—might actually lower the risk of developing cancer.

By utilizing high-tech microscopes in their labs, researchers at the USDA analyzed pectin and determined that it can effectively block the activity of the Gal3 protein, which is known to trigger cancer development.

You can find pectin in a wide variety of produce, though apples and oranges are particularly rich in it.

The scientific consensus is that it’s far more effective to incorporate a diverse range of fruits and vegetables into your diet—ideally aiming for five servings a day. This holds true regardless of whether you focus on specific items like blueberries, which have gained quite a reputation as a "superfood" due to their notable health benefits.

Data collected in the United States shows that blueberry sales have surged by 132% over the last two years.

PLIVA Health
mistyridge5 mistyridge5 Member
25 messages
joined Jan 2012
#1433 ·
Kimberly Bishop91,

Thank you so much for the kind wishes—I really appreciate it. I’m truly hoping that some wonderful news is just around the corner for you too!!! 👍
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#1434 ·
Look, cosmiceagle4, we all know exactly what you're getting at here👍. This conversation has already happened on this forum. Thanks anyway. Bye👋
Nicholas Hughes2 Nicholas Hughes2 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Oct 2008
#1435 ·
cosmiceagle4 said:Where on earth did you get the idea that fruit is off-limits?

doctors

it’s pretty obvious how much you actually know about what you're lecturing us on... 🙄

someone dealing with colon cancer (not just any cancer, mind you—I'm talking specifically about this case because I've seen it firsthand) shouldn't be eating fresh fruit because the skin can stick to the intestinal wall, which ends up causing all sorts of digestive issues

(of course, people cheat and eat fruit anyway, or they just peel everything—but basing an entire diet on something that isn't recommended? honestly, that's just ridiculous. And the fact that you're getting so defensive and asking where the idea came from... well, it really shows how little you grasp this topic👋)
cosmiceagle4 cosmiceagle4 Member
10 messages
joined Dec 2008
#1436 ·
Here is some firsthand insight into how cancer can truly be overcome:
Dr. Lorraine Day served as a regular professor at medical school.
She was diagnosed with breast cancer, which eventually grew to the size of a ball.
The metastases had spread throughout her entire body, leaving her unable to even get out of bed.
At that point, everyone had essentially given up on her......
Take a look at her experience.
It is quite encouraging.

Part 1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...73047491&hl=en

Part 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...21137924&hl=en
Kimberly Green23 Kimberly Green23 Member
16 messages
joined Jun 2008
#1437 ·
brightgardener8 said:Dear friends,
My mother passed away yesterday. 🙂
She suffered for far too long, so in a way, I feel a sense of relief that her struggle has finally ended.
I truly hope she is in a much better place now.

Nothing will ever be quite the same without her.

brightgardener8, please accept my sincere condolences, even if they are a little late. You are absolutely right—things won't be the same, but you will find the strength to move forward through the beautiful memories you hold of her.
Kimberly Green23 Kimberly Green23 Member
16 messages
joined Jun 2008
#1438 ·
slyrider11 said:I want to thank everyone for the kind words of support.
Mom should be coming home this Monday or Tuesday, and I am truly hoping she can recover in the comfort of her own house (as much as that is even possible).
For the moment, she isn't experiencing intense pain, and I sincerely hope it stays that way. My biggest worry is for her, and for her grandkids who are so incredibly attached to her—this would be absolutely devastating for them.
If anyone here on the forum has dealt with this specific type of tumor, I would dearly love to hear about your treatment experiences or anything you can share.
Please forgive me if someone has already posted this and I simply missed it.

I hesitated for quite some time before deciding whether to reach out. To be honest, my stepfather faced a situation almost identical to what your mother is going through right now. Removing the tumor wasn't an option, so the doctors attempted a bypass instead. Unfortunately, within less than a month, the procedure became futile because the tumor had grown too large again. The one small glimmer of light in all that suffering was that, until his very last day, he remained entirely free of pain. I realize that what I’m sharing isn't exactly comforting, but please, try to make the most of these precious moments and surround your mom with every ounce of love and attention you can give.
shadowmason6 shadowmason6 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2008
#1439 ·
brightgardener8, here’s my (slightly late) little update. 😢

Grace Fowler, I honestly just have to say, I am constantly blown away by your grit, your bravery, and that relentless optimism of yours... I find myself scrolling back through your old posts every now and then just to get inspired... 🙂 I’m really pulling for things to turn around soon! We’re all right there with you!

That damn girl hasn't checked in for a bit... how are things going with her?

Come on guys, give us some good news for once!

My mom just finished her sixth round of chemo. Honestly, I’m so incredibly proud of her. She’s been totally exhausted—which, let's face it, is just how she is—but she handled the whole thing like a total champ. In two months, she has to go back for some deep-dive testing. Of course, I’m doing everything I can to keep her spirits up and keep her laughing, because I won't let her sink into those dark moods, even for a second... though, man, that's a tall order with her personality...
And just when we thought we could finally catch our breath, it looks like my father-in-law is facing surgery for inflammatory bowel disease. He’s currently waiting on his biopsy results. 😢

We were actually planning to head out tonight to catch a lecture by Lothar Hirneis (it was at 8:00 PM over at the ADA in Beverly Hills), but it looks like we aren't going to make it. Has anyone here actually heard him speak or maybe read one of his books? I haven't gotten around to either... so I'm not sure what to make of it, but, hey, at first glance, it seems like it might be worth hearing about his take on alternative cancer treatments and the insights he's gathered over the years.
If anyone happens to be there, maybe you could share your thoughts so I know if it's worth making the trip tomorrow (there are sessions at the Fashion Institute of Technology at noon and 6:00 PM at the senior center on Fifth Avenue).
brisksurfer brisksurfer Newcomer
6 messages
joined Jun 2009
#1440 ·
Listen, everyone, I’ve tried coming back to this thread a few times now, but honestly, I just burst into tears every single time I start reading anything.... Regardless, I truly admire the strength you all have to endure these hardships.
At the end of June, we found out my Dad has throat/pharyngeal cancer... everything had been perfectly fine until then. He was doing great, aside from an occasional sore throat. He’d see his doctor about it for about a year and a half, but they kept telling him it was nothing—until it finally turned out to be a tumor. At first, they thought it was about 5x2.5cm. He had to rush into surgery at a military hospital... and that's when they realized the tumor was much larger than they initially thought. Luckily, it hadn't spread extensively (there were tiny traces in the stomach, but the doctor says it's negligible). They had to perform a reconstruction of his throat after removing the affected area. About a month ago, he finished radiation (he went through 32 sessions). He’s been holding up well so far, but the real issue is that since the surgery, he can't eat or swallow normally. Up until the end of radiation, he could manage blended food, but then he couldn't even do that. He seemed to be improving right after the radiation ended, but over the last three days, things have taken a turn for the worse again. There's absolutely no saliva production and he can barely swallow anything. His neck is swollen again. He’s lost so much weight that he has zero energy left. I am at my wits' end with him... he’s heading back to the doctor for a checkup this Wednesday. 😢

Has anyone else here dealt with something like this? 🙂 I don't know anyone who would understand what I'm going through... every time I let my guard down and think he's getting better, everything just goes to hell. 😢

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