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Are nicotine vapes actually healthy?

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Participants Joshua Lewis11dustymarlin10Alexander Hall43Samuel Smith5Samuel Moraleslonebadger6
Joshua Lewis11 Joshua Lewis11 NewcomerOP
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joined Oct 2008
#1 ·
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IotedNJ2EVs

The initial setup runs about $183, which includes two batteries along with a charger and a digital vaporizer
. It comes with five cartridges, which provides roughly the same satisfaction as ten packs of traditional cigarettes.

Each additional cartridge costs approximately $2.25, providing enough supply for about two days of use
if your daily habit typically involves forty cigarettes over a forty-eight hour period.

Think of this digital vaporizer as a sophisticated piece of modern engineering; it utilizes advanced liquid atomization technology to mimic the experience of smoking without the combustion—meaning no fire, no embers, and no smoke—thereby avoiding many of the unpleasant side effects that traditional smoking imposes on both the user and those nearby.

Inside the device, a low-nicotine cartridge feeds liquid into an atomizer zone where an ultra-micro pump pressurizes it, breaking the liquid down into a fine mist of particles measuring between 0.5 and 1.5 micrometers. These droplets are then dispersed into an ultrasonic field, creating an aerosol that, through inhalation and airflow, produces a vapor that feels remarkably like cigarette smoke, yet lacks the harmful combustion byproducts.

I would truly value your thoughts and feedback on this.
dustymarlin10 dustymarlin10 Active Member
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joined Nov 2015
#2 ·
Joshua Lewis11 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IotedNJ2EVs

The kit runs about $183, and you get two batteries with a charger plus a digital vape
and 5 cartridges (which is basically like having 10 packs of Marlboros).

Each new cartridge is roughly $2.25, which should last you two days
if you're hitting about 40 cigarettes in that timeframe.

A digital vape is just this high-tech gadget using modern tech and liquid atomization to mimic the experience of smoking without the actual fire, embers, or smoke—supposedly cutting out all those nasty side effects for the user and everyone else nearby.

Inside the device, there’s a low-nicotine cartridge that feeds liquid into an atomizer zone where an ultra-micro pump pressurizes it, turning it into these tiny 0.5-1.5 micron mist droplets that hit an ultrasonic field. These droplets then disperse into an aerosol where the inhalation and airflow create a vapor that feels just like cigarette smoke (carrying nicotine for the smoker, but supposedly none of the other toxic junk).

What do you guys think? Any thoughts?

And we're just pretending nicotine isn't bad? At all? 😂😂🤣🤣
Alexander Hall43 Alexander Hall43 Member
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#3 ·
I mean, let's be real—nicotine itself isn't actually the main villain when you look at the rest of a cigarette. It’s especially a different story if you aren't even inhaling it into your lungs.
dustymarlin10 dustymarlin10 Active Member
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#4 ·
Really?

Well, why don't you just give this a quick read:

http://www.verywellhealth.com/nicotine-benefits-and-risks-5204391

And honestly, you could probably find another hundred articles claiming nicotine is actually "good" for you if you looked hard enough...

So go ahead, enjoy yourself... just maybe try not to inhale it through your lungs, yeah?
Alexander Hall43 Alexander Hall43 Member
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#5 ·
dustymarlin10 said:Is that right?

Well, you should probably give this a quick read:

http://www.webmd.com/articles/nicotine-facts

Honestly, you could probably find over a hundred articles out there discussing the "positive" aspects of nicotine...

So, hey, enjoy yourself... just try not to inhale it through your lungs, okay?

Look, I never said it wasn't harmful—I just think it’s relatively less damaging than the alternatives, especially when you consider there are about 4,000 toxins in a single cigarette. I totally get that it's incredibly addictive, but being habit-forming doesn't automatically make something uniquely lethal to your body.
I mean, coffee is addictive too, and it isn't exactly killing us.
Samuel Smith5 Samuel Smith5 Active Member
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joined Apr 2007
#6 ·
Wow. So they finally figured out a way to get your nicotine fix without actually lighting up a cigarette. 😁
Now we just have to wait for someone to stumble upon a way to detox from these damn e-cigarettes.
Samuel Morales Samuel Morales Member
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joined Mar 2011
#7 ·
Samuel Smith5 said:now if they could just figure out some kind of rehab for these digital cigarettes, maybe we'd actually get somewhere

😂😂
lonebadger6 lonebadger6 Active Member
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joined Oct 2018
#8 ·
dustymarlin10 said:Is that so?

Well, you might want to give this a read...

http://www.webmd.com/articles/nicotine-facts

and honestly, you could probably find another hundred articles talking up the "benefits" of nicotine...

So, go ahead and enjoy yourself... just maybe try not to inhale it through your lungs...

Nobody is actually claiming it’s good for you or saying nicotine isn't harmful in general, since the addiction factor alone makes it a problem...

but this specific article doesn't really dwell on any "damaging" effects beyond the fact that it's addictive...

The carcinogenic properties of nicotine in standalone form, separate from tobacco smoke, have not been evaluated by the IARC, and it has not been assigned to an official carcinogen group. The currently available literature indicates that nicotine, on its own, does not promote the development of cancer in healthy tissue and has no mutagenic properties. Its teratogenic properties have not yet been adequately researched, and while the likelihood of birth defects caused by nicotine is believed to be very small or nonexistent

For those who aren't fluent in English—nicotine isn't classified in any carcinogen group...
and current research suggests that nicotine, by itself, doesn't trigger cancer growth in healthy tissue...
lonebadger6 lonebadger6 Active Member
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#9 ·
If you hadn't spent all that energy trying to act so incredibly superior and condescending—mostly by mocking everyone else instead of actually making a point—you might have actually bothered to read the very article you linked and noticed this...

The distinction between nicotine and substances like alcohol, heroin, or cocaine lies in the fact that nicotine from cigarettes doesn't cause acute poisoning. But that's irrelevant when classifying nicotine as an addictive drug, because addiction is defined by the inability to stop using the substance, not by how toxic it is in a single dose.
dustymarlin10 dustymarlin10 Active Member
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#10 ·
lonebadger6 said:If you hadn't spent all this energy trying to act like some condescending genius—which, let's be real, isn't even happening since you aren't actually making points but just mocking everyone else—maybe you would have actually bothered to read the article you linked and noticed this:

Give me a break.
If anyone’s acting like they know everything here, it’s definitely you.
Why don't you take a look at this thread on Reddit before you try telling me nicotine poisoning isn't a thing:

View on reddit

Seriously, if nicotine poisoning wasn't real, why would it be a standard exam question in pharmacology and toxicology classes at any major US medical school?

Besides, nicotine is easily one of the most potent natural toxins out there:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/nicotine-poisoning

So, moving forward, stop talking nonsense and quit twisting the facts just to justify your own addiction.
lonebadger6 lonebadger6 Active Member
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#11 ·
And once again, you seem incapable of actually reading your own links... you know, people usually read more than just the headlines if they want to actually grasp the point being made...

It’s honestly a lost cause trying to measure just how much you struggle to process other people's posts, though I suppose there's no point in elaborating when your final sentence was such a nonsensical mess that perfectly illustrates you haven't understood a single thing...

Nicotinism is simply the term used to describe someone who is a chronic smoker. We aren't talking about "poisoning" in the traditional sense of the word here.

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we aren't talking about nicotine poisoning in the most direct sense of the word.

The term "nicotinism" just points to the existence of a risk factor—namely, the fact that one smokes cigarettes and is addicted to them.

And finally:

The difference between nicotine and drugs like alcohol, heroin, or cocaine is the fact that nicotine through cigarette smoking does not cause poisoning

those are quotes from your own links, and the second one is a carbon copy of the one you posted a few days ago...

To put it bluntly—you have no clue. Which isn't necessarily a crime since this clearly isn't your field of expertise, but it is a problem when you try to lecture others while having no idea what you're talking about...
Actually, any intelligent person would have realized by now that they should probably just walk away from this conversation, especially since for anyone actually paying attention, it's perfectly clear that the harmful nature of nicotine as an addictive substance is never in question...

And the fact that you're throwing around phrases like "cut the crap" and "stop talking nonsense" makes me wonder which addiction is currently messing with your nerves...

So, once again, with my best regards—using two of YOUR own links (you didn't even notice they are identical texts):

nicotine through cigarette smoking does not cause poisoning


Is it possible that you've finally processed this, or do you need me to bring Professor Ozren Podnar right to you—since you keep posting his work as links—so he can explain it to you face-to-face...

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