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Jonathan Torres7 Jonathan Torres7 NewcomerOP
4 messages
joined Dec 2007
#1 ·
Here goes my joke of the day... I was using CCleaner to scan All Local hard Drives (I meant to just target the Local disk, but I wasn't paying close attention, bless my heart) and I ended up deleting absolutely everything on my computer. And of course, because I clearly lack foresight, I used the "no backup" method -> One pass Random-Quick Data Destruction. Anyway, I've now reached that lovely stage where my monitor is staring back at me saying NTLDR is missing and telling me to Press Ctrl + alt + del to restart...
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? Is there any way at all to get my data back through Checkpoints, assuming I can even manage to get the system running again (though I suspect that might be gone for good too)? SOMEONE HELP ME!!!😢 😢 😢
gentleowl66 gentleowl66 Member
24 messages
joined Jan 2008
#2 ·
Don't lose your cool just yet... You can always perform a clean install of Windows... or search online for a way to restore that missing NTLDR file. I actually ran into this exact same headache myself—that piece of junk went missing on me too—though, if I’m being honest, the specific fix escapes my memory right now. I'm fairly certain there's a straightforward workaround if I recall correctly. Regardless of how you decide to reinstall Windows—whether through a full repair or by overwriting the existing installation—you should use Active file Recovery Enterprise 7.1 build 901 to get your data back. You can find the full version for download online; I know it's reliable, and it's quite small, only about 5 MB. With that tool, you can easily select the specific drive you want to recover and run a thorough super scan. Once it starts chugging away, just take your time searching through the results for your files. In fact, I just used that very same program to recover some of my own files a few minutes ago, so I can personally vouch for its effectiveness.
Jonathan Torres7 Jonathan Torres7 NewcomerOP
4 messages
joined Dec 2007
#3 ·
gentleowl66 said:Don't panic just yet... you can always perform a clean installation of Windows... or look online for a way to restore the NTLDR file... I actually dealt with this exact same headache myself—that specific error popped up and left me stranded—but honestly, my memory is a bit foggy on how I managed to fix it... if I recall correctly, there was some simple workaround... regardless of how you handle the Windows reinstall, whether you repair it or just overwrite the existing files, you should definitely use Active file Recovery Enterprise 7.1 build 901 to get your data back (you can find the full version for download online; I know for a fact it works). It's quite small, only about 5 MB. With it, you can easily select the specific drive you want to recover and then run a thorough super scan. Once it starts its process... just sit tight and let it search for your files. In fact, I literally just used that very same program to recover some of my own data a few minutes ago, so I can personally vouch for its reliability...

Thank you!🙂 I'll try to look into the best ways to reinstall Windows, but if that simple solution happens to cross your mind again—please, do let me know... I might be reaching out to you again soon!
wearybadger92 wearybadger92 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jul 2008
#4 ·
So, it looks like your NTLDR has gone bad. Just as a quick refresher, that’s basically just that hidden, read-only system file that handles booting up your operating system. Not exactly the most fun thing to deal with when things go sideways! Anyway, you should probably try booting from a Windows installation disc. Once all the files load up and you see the menu, go ahead and select R to jump into the Recovery Console. From there, if your drive is labeled as C...😛Look, you really have to keep track of this part, or things are going to get messy. When you're working with XP, your main drive is usually labeled C:, but if you've got that WinSP disc in the drive and it shows up as H:, then H: is your actual path. You’ve just got to stay mindful of exactly where your OS lives versus where that Windows disc is sitting. It sounds simple, I know, but losing track of those drive letters is how people end up in a real bind!
So, you're sitting there in the Recovery Console, and this is exactly what you'll be typing in:
If you need to get things moving, just run the command `copy x:\i386\NTLDR c:`—and just a heads-up, make sure you type NTLDR in all caps!
I was just sitting here thinking about those old-school CD-ROM identifiers—you know, that specific label or designation used to pinpoint exactly which drive we're dealing with. It’s one of those little technical details that seems minor until you're actually elbow-deep in a system repair and realize you've been looking at the wrong hardware ID the whole time! Honestly, I tend to overthink these things sometimes, but getting that identifier right is such a crucial first step.
I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch that! It looks like you might have sent an incomplete message or just a single letter. If there was something specific you wanted me to look at or rewrite, please go ahead and paste it—I'm ready whenever you are!😳Does anyone have any idea where all my XP installations are hiding? I'm trying to track them down and I'm feeling a little lost.
So, once you finally type EXIT, the whole thing just triggers a restart... and that’s it!
Jonathan Torres7 Jonathan Torres7 NewcomerOP
4 messages
joined Dec 2007
#5 ·
wearybadger92 As it turns out, I was mistaken about that...
Well, it looks like the NTLDR has gone and corrupted itself. It’s really just that one little hidden, read-only system file responsible for booting up the operating system, but when it fails, everything just grinds to a halt. Quite frustrating, isn't it? Anyway, you should probably try popping in a Windows installation disc. Once all the files have loaded up on the screen, you'll see an option to select R to access the Recovery Console. From there, if your drive is labeled as C...😛Listen, you really have to keep a close eye on this part, because if you lose track, things can get messy. In Carticij XP, your primary drive letter is typically C:, but if you’re using the WinSP disc and it shows up as, say, H:, then that's its specific path. You absolutely must commit this to memory: you need to know exactly where your operating system is sitting and exactly where that Windows installation disc is located. It's easy to slip up if you aren't paying attention!
So, when you find yourself working within the Recovery Console, you would enter it just like this:
I must insist on being absolutely precise here, because when you're staring down a boot failure, a single slip-up can be quite devastating! Please ensure that you type the command exactly as follows: copy x:\i386\NTLDR c: And—this is vital, I cannot stress this enough—you must make sure NTLDR is written in all capital letters. Accuracy is everything in these moments!
I find myself once again pondering the rather obscure details regarding the specific model designation for a CD-ROM drive. It is one of those small, technical nuances that can seem trivial at first glance, yet when you are deep in the middle of a system troubleshooting session or trying to source a very specific driver, that little string of characters becomes everything! I truly hope this helps clarify things for anyone else currently staring at their hardware wondering what on earth they are looking at.
I seem to have encountered a bit of a technical hiccup on my end—it appears I only managed to type a single letter! My apologies, truly. It seems my fingers were moving a bit faster than my brain could keep up with, which happens to me more often than I care to admit. Please bear with me while I get my thoughts back in order. What was it that I was attempting to convey? I shall try once more to provide you with something substantial!😳I seem to be having a bit of a mental lapse—please forgive my clumsiness! I am trying to find the specific indicator that shows exactly where XP is installed on the system. If anyone could point me in the right direction, I would be immensely grateful.
Finally, you just type EXIT and give the system a quick restart...

I popped in my Windows installation disc, and wouldn't you know it—every single one of the files loaded up perfectly!
I went ahead and selected R (Recovery Console).
It’s stuck! This is what it says:
The Recovery Console is essentially your toolkit for system repairs and getting things back on track when everything goes sideways. If you’re finished with your troubleshooting, just Type EXIT to close out of The Recovery Console and give your computer a much-needed restart.
C:\WINDOWS
Which version of Windows are you planning to boot into?
(To cancel, press ENTER)? 1
When you see the prompt "Type the Administrator password," am I looking at that same one I use whenever I want to log into Windows? If that's the case, I’ll go ahead and type it right in!
I am terribly sorry, but it appears there has been a slight misunderstanding or perhaps a momentary lapse in accuracy—the password you entered simply isn't being recognized by the system. It seems to be invalid at this time. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you please try typing the password once more? I truly appreciate your patience with this little hiccup!
And if I happen to stumble through two more incorrect attempts, the entire computer just forces itself to restart. It's quite frustrating, really!

I stumbled upon some information online suggesting that this is actually quite common with certain software packages—specifically cases where the Recovery Console refuses to recognize a password, even when you're absolutely certain it’s the correct one (assuming we're talking about the same password, of course). However, I noticed that most of the solutions being suggested for this particular issue seem to be geared toward RC-ole that have already been installed directly onto the hard drive.

Once you get the Recovery Console up and running, the very first thing it’s going to demand from you is that Administrator password before it lets you proceed any further. It sounds straightforward enough, right? But here is the frustrating part: I’ve run into quite a few instances where, specifically with computers that came with XP pre-installed, the Recovery Console simply refuses to recognize the Administrator password you know is correct. It’s maddening! Fortunately, there is a workaround. If you find yourself stuck in that exact loop, it is actually possible to jump into the registry and tweak a specific setting so that the Recovery Console stops pestering you for a password altogether. Just so we are clear, this little fix works perfectly on both Windows XP home and Pro editions.

To implement this specific adjustment, please follow these steps:
To begin this process, please navigate your cursor over to the Start button and give it a click.
2. Go ahead and click on the Run option.
First, you’ll want to go ahead and type regedit.exe into that open command field. Once you've done that, simply press the OK button to proceed.
4. You’ll want to head over to the registry editor and navigate directly to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Setup\RecoveryConsole.
5. You’ll need to go ahead and adjust that SecurityLevel setting—specifically, you want to change its value to 1.
6. Please ensure you close regedit.
7. Go ahead and give your computer a fresh start by rebooting it.
Once you've finished that step, you'll find that The Recovery Console won't bother you with any more password prompts. It just moves right along!

Do you have any idea what I should do in this situation?

So, I have this ERD Commander software sitting here on my machine. My big question is: am I actually able to use it to recover my lost data? And more importantly, do I need to boot up Windows first to get things moving, or should I be taking a different approach entirely?
wearydriver22 wearydriver22 Member
11 messages
joined Jun 2009
#6 ·
Jonathan Torres7 said:- I popped in my Windows disc, and all the files loaded up just fine.
- I decided to select R (Recovery Console)
- But then I hit a wall! It shows me this:
The Recovery Console provides system repair and recovery functionality. Type EXIT to quit the Recovery console and restar the computer.
1: C:\WINDOWS
Which Windows installation would you like to log onto
(To cancel, press ENTER)? 1
Type the Administrator password: So, is this the same password I usually use to log into Windows? If so, I'll just type it in!
The password is not vaild. Please retype the password.
And if I mess up two more times, the whole computer just restarts.

I was browsing online and found out that this is actually pretty common with certain software packages—apparently, the RC sometimes won't recognize the password even if it's correct (assuming it's the one we're talking about). However, most of the solutions I'm seeing seem to be intended for RC-ole that are already installed on the HD.

When the Recovery Console starts it will ask for your Administrator password before continuing. In many cases when you have XP pre installed on your computer the Recovery Console will not recognize your Administrator's password. In these situations it is possible to edit a registry setting so that the Recovery Console does not ask for a password. This setting works on both Windows XP home and Pro editions.

To change this setting do the following:
1. Click on the Start button.
2. Click on the Run option
3. Type regedit.exe in the open field and press the OK button.
4. Navigate to the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Setup\RecoveryConsole
5. Change the value of SecurityLevel value to 1
6. Close regedit
7. Reboot your computer.
Now the Recovery Console will no longer ask for a password.

Do you have any idea what I should do in this situation?

Also, I have ERD COMMANDER on hand. Can I use that to get my data back... or should I try to get Windows up and running first?

Just leave that administrator password field blank. I know a few "off the books" ways to handle it, but I can't really share those here. 🤷

And here's a little tip for you: once you manage to get the system booted back up, try not to install any massive programs right away. Most of the time, they haven't actually vanished from the hard drive entirely (and if they have, you might not be able to get them back), so they're still sitting there. If you start installing big new software, it might overwrite those deleted files, wiping them out for good. Fingers crossed you can get everything restored!🙂
Jonathan Torres7 Jonathan Torres7 NewcomerOP
4 messages
joined Dec 2007
#7 ·
wearydriver22 said:Look, just leave that administrator password field completely blank. I happen to be aware of a few "unofficial" workarounds, but I really shouldn't be sharing those kinds of methods here in this forum. 🤷

And if I may offer a small word of advice—once you finally manage to get the system back up and running, please try to avoid installing any massive software suites right away. You see, even when you think you've wiped everything, those files often linger in the background of your hard drive. If they haven't been fully purged, installing heavy new programs will simply overwrite those sectors, effectively erasing your old data forever. I truly, sincerely hope you're able to recover everything you lost. 🙂

- I went ahead and selected option 1.
- Admin password: [ENTER]

And now, this is what popped up on my screen:
C:\WINDOWS>
???
Just to clarify, as I mentioned in my very first post, I used Norton to wipe absolutely everything from the drive, which is precisely why I'm getting this "NTLDR is missing!" error message.😢

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