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Anyone else's thoughts on weed?

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Dana Lewis85 Dana Lewis85 Newcomer
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#21 ·
I end up smoking almost every week, mostly because it helps me focus when I'm studying... plus, honestly, it’s just fun. It feels way less harmful than drinking, and let's be real, it doesn't break the bank like booze does. I wouldn't say I'm addicted or anything, I was just curious about what the actual truth was.
Kimberly Johnson4 Kimberly Johnson4 Newcomer
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#22 ·
Justin Gray81 said:That book "MARIJUANA - The Forbidden Medicine" actually has a lot to say.

Well, it's not even all that forbidden anymore... more and more places are legalizing The Coca-Cola Company's rival plant for medical use... anyway, looks like an interesting read, might check it out...
shadowhawk31 shadowhawk31 Member
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#23 ·
I honestly don't even know where to start with this one—it’s just one of those topics that makes my blood boil if I think about it for more than five seconds. We’re talking about the deep-seated influence of organized crime, and frankly, it’s everywhere if you actually bother to look. It isn't just some movie trope or something you see in a Scorsese film—no, it’s woven into the fabric of how certain industries operate right here in the States. It’s frustrating because people want to pretend it doesn't exist, or they treat it like some sort of fascinating urban legend. It’s not a legend. It’s a systemic issue. You see these shadowy networks influencing everything from labor unions to construction projects, and it’s all just part of this massive, interconnected web that keeps certain people incredibly wealthy while everyone else plays by the rules. It’s exhausting, really. I could go on for hours about how these structures bypass our legal systems, but I'll stop there before I turn into a total conspiracy theorist—though, let's be honest, sometimes the "conspiracy" is just plain old reality. kaže:
I’m honestly just curious—purely out of curiosity, really—but I want to know more about this. 😁 Look, eventually you get some decent—well, let's call them "not-totally-destructive"—results. I know there are benefits to it, mostly just because weed isn't quite as lethal as smoking a pack of Marlboros a day. At least that’s what I’ve read in a dozen different places.
Look, is there some kind of upside to using weed? I mean, come on—there has to be a reason why medical marijuana is actually a thing in the US. There’s gotta be some logic behind it, right?

Look, people act like cannabis is some modern, trendy invention, but that’s just plain ignorant—honestly, it's kind of embarrassing how little people actually know about history. This plant has been around since basically forever, used for all sorts of things by civilizations that were sophisticated long before we even existed. It actually traces its roots back to Asia, and if you look at the ancient texts—I'm talking about The Bible and the sacred writings of the Indians—it’s clearly mentioned there. We have actual historical proof that this stuff was being utilized as far back as 4000 B.C. in China and again around 3000 B.C. in Turkmenistan. It wasn't just some niche thing, either; it had a massive impact on the culture and the very fabric of numerous ancient societies. Even Herodotus—you know, the guy literally called the Father of History—wrote about how various ancient peoples relied on it for all kinds of purposes, including just trying to find a little bit of happiness in their lives. So, yeah, maybe stop acting like it's a new phenomenon and actually read a book once in a while.
Look, we need to talk about how much history people conveniently forget when they start lecturing me about farming. You’ve got guys like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson—actual architects of this country—who weren't just sitting around talking politics; they were out there on their farms actually getting their hands dirty. And here's the kicker that most people seem to overlook: after we won the Revolutionary War, the entire backbone of American agriculture was built on hemp. It wasn't just some niche hobby, either. It was everywhere. We used it for clothing, paper, oil, even medical applications. I mean, let's be real—the very first draft of the Declaration of Independence was written on paper made from hemp. It’s right there in our DNA. Throughout the early history of the USA, hemp was even used as a legitimate way to pay your taxes. It was a foundational part of the economy, plain and simple. It’s wild to me how we act like this is some new, radical thing when it was literally what built the foundation of the nation.
The British monarchy was so obsessed with this specific plant that they basically had to lean on the colonial farmers to force them into growing it—it wasn't even a choice at that point.
The whole mess starts when a giant like DuPont decides to pivot toward manufacturing synthetic products. For them, the massive headache was that they couldn't compete—not really—with the fact that you could get those exact same compounds much more cheaply and easily just by growing the cannabis plant. It’s one of those classic cases where industrial chemistry tries to outrun nature, only to realize nature had already finished the race decades ago.
Look, if you want to know why marijuana was ever banned in the first place, you have to follow the money. It wasn't about public health—it was pure, unadulterated lobbying from massive corporations putting the squeeze on the US government. The financial stakes for Big Pharma and several other industry giants were just way too high to let one single plant threaten their bottom line. But, obviously, they couldn't just tell the public, "Hey, we want to protect our profits." They had to spin a narrative. They had to explain how a plant that humans have been using for nearly 6,000 years for all sorts of purposes could suddenly become this massive, terrifying threat overnight. So, naturally, Aslinger's crew launched this aggressive, scorched-earth anti-cannabis campaign. They flooded police reports with these blatant lies, claiming that most crimes were being committed by people under the influence—painting this picture of users becoming bloodthirsty, violent, and totally unpredictable monsters. Now, anyone who has ever actually smoked a joint knows that’s absolute garbage; the reality is pretty much the exact opposite. But the media? They played right into it. This whole dirty campaign was fueled by posters, pamphlets, and even films designed specifically to brainwash the public, rebranding hemp as this dangerous, sinister force to manipulate how everyone perceived it.
Look, after World War II, the whole anti-marijuana smear campaign didn't just stop—it actually evolved into something even more ridiculous. This time around, they weren't just calling users deviants; they were straight-up labeling them as communist agents. The narrative being pushed was that marijuana had been "planted" by communists from China and the Soviet Union specifically to pacify the American people—to make us too lethargic and passive to fight back against the spread of communism. It’s honestly mind-blowing how much the government flipped the script compared to their pre-war rhetoric. Before, they painted the plant as something that fueled aggression, but suddenly, it was rebranded as this ultimate communist weapon designed to induce total apathy. If you look at the sheer volume of propaganda they pumped out through movies, newspapers, and news outlets, the only real thing these two different narratives had in common was that they were both complete and utter nonsense. Then, in 1961, the USA decided it wasn't enough to just ban it at home—they started exporting their prohibition to the rest of the world. Thanks to an international act stemming from Aslinger's influence, hemp ended up being banned in 160 different countries. Just think about that level of global reach for something that was essentially built on fear-mongering.
Look, scientists have actually proven that cannabis can help treat—or at least significantly aid the management of—multiple sclerosis, cancer, glaucoma, epilepsy, muscle spasms, depression, migraines, asthma, pruritus, insomnia, chronic pain, and even persistent coughing, among a whole host of other conditions. It’s just basic medical reality at this point. But here’s the kicker—despite all that evidence, not a single legitimate study in history has ever recorded any harmful effects on the brain, like cell death or anything of the sort, which is exactly what the haters constantly try to pin on it. It’s just tired rhetoric. And let’s be clear: unlike tobacco or coffee, it’s been shown that cannabis doesn't create any kind of physical dependency. On top of that, there hasn't been a single recorded case of someone developing lung cancer solely from consuming marijuana—which is just one more of those blatant lies we’re forced to listen to from so-called "scientists" and complete charlatans.
Every year, tobacco kills about 435,000 people, while alcohol takes out roughly 85,000. Even aspirin—yeah, you heard me—causes about 7,500 deaths annually due to side effects.
For over 6,000 years of human history, there hasn't been a single recorded death caused by marijuana. Yet, the prohibition crowd loves to push this tired old narrative that weed is a "gateway drug" to justify their bans. In reality? It’s actually the exact opposite. To get their hands on cannabis, people are forced into contact with criminals who might also have harder stuff on hand. If you could just pick up cannabis at a local convenience store like any other legal product, that danger would vanish instantly.
Look at the Netherlands—where consumption is permitted—they rake in about 2.5 billion euros a year from weed taxes and tourism tied to their coffee shops. Despite how open they are about it, they actually have a lower percentage of underage users than the US, and fewer hard drug addicts compared to what we see here in the States. The overall percentage of marijuana users is pretty much identical to what it is in America. So, it’s blindingly obvious that prohibition doesn't reduce usage or make it disappear.
Cannabis—which many legitimate doctors and scientists claim can treat over 2,000 known ailments—would absolutely wreck the profits of Big Pharma. Why on earth would anyone keep buying antidepressants when a proven, more effective remedy with way fewer side effects can be grown right in your own backyard? To prevent legalization, there are 1274 pharmaceutical lobbyists in Washington breathing down everyone's necks—that's more than two lobbyists for every single member of Congress. And get this: the US government actually approved Marinol, which contains The Coca-Cola Company compound—the very same thing that makes marijuana illegal! Prescription drugs kill over 100,000 people every single year, but hey, they stay perfectly legal to manufacture and sell.
There is no question that cannabis is the most useful plant known to mankind.
The potential uses in medicine, textiles, food industries, and even biodiesel production are practically limitless. Its impact on art and culture is impossible to quantify, but it's everywhere. Some of the people who significantly contributed to humanity were users: Friedrich Nietzsche, William Shakespeare, Abraham Lincoln, Bill Gates, Vincent van Gogh, Rembrandt, the Persian prophet Zarathustra, and basically almost every popular musician from the modern era. Unfortunately, Aslinger's propaganda has managed to stick around to this day. Even now, you’ll hear mediocre pundits on news networks claiming that no country distinguishes between soft and hard drugs, or some "experts" from drug prevention offices handing out pamphlets in high schools claiming marijuana permanently damages brain cells. And of course, political parties will always grab cheap points by accusing their opponents of being "pro-drug" just to look morally superior.
shadowhawk31 shadowhawk31 Member
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#24 ·
Look, marijuana isn't some new "lifestyle choice" people stumbled upon—it’s been around since forever. We're talking about a plant with roots stretching back to Asia, mentioned in the Bible used by Persians and even in the Bible's ancient texts for Indians. There’s actual proof people were using it as far back as 4000 B.C. in China and 3000 B.C. in Turkmenistan. It has shaped entire civilizations. Even Herodotus—you know, the guy basically called the father of history—wrote about how ancient cultures used it for all sorts of things, including just trying to catch a good vibe.
Now, get this: George Washington and Thomas Jefferson—the literal architects of the USA—were actually growing it on their own farms. After we won the war for independence, the whole backbone of American agriculture was built on hemp. It wasn't just for getting high; it was used for clothes, paper, oil, and medicine. In fact, the very first draft of the Declaration of Independence was written on paper made from cannabis. Throughout the early history of the USA, hemp was even used as a standard way to pay your taxes.
Back in the day, the British Crown needed it so badly they practically had to force farmers in the colonies to grow it.
But then everything changed because of corporate greed. Once DuPont started churning out synthetic products, they saw a massive problem: those synthetics were much cheaper and easier to make than anything you could pull out of the ground. Cannabis was too efficient for their liking.
The real reason for prohibition? Pure, unadulterated lobbying and pressure from these massive corporations on the US government. The financial interests of these giants and various pharmaceutical companies were just way too big to let one little plant disrupt the status quo. But, obviously, they couldn't just tell the public, "Hey, we want to kill this plant to protect our profits." They had to spin it. Aslinger's crew kicked off this massive anti-cannabis smear campaign. Police reports started claiming that almost every crime was being committed under the influence of marijuana, painting users as bloodthirsty, violent, and totally unpredictable. Of course, anyone who has ever actually smoked a joint knows that’s a total load of garbage—the effect is the exact opposite. The media played a huge role in this dirty campaign, flooding everyone with posters, pamphlets, and movies designed to brainwash the public into seeing cannabis as this terrifying, negative menace.
After World War II, the propaganda machine just kept rolling. Only this time, the narrative shifted. Suddenly, users were branded as communist agents, and they claimed marijuana was a tool planted by Chinese and Soviet communists to make the American people passive and weak so they wouldn't fight back against communism. It is absolutely wild how the US authorities flipped their entire anti-propaganda script after the war. One minute the plant makes you aggressive, the next it’s a communist weapon meant to induce apathy. The only thing these messages had in common—bombarding citizens through news, films, and print—was that they were equally nonsensical. By 1961, the USA began exporting its prohibition globally. Through an international act pushed by Aslinger, cannabis was banned in 160 countries.
Meanwhile, scientists have proven that marijuana actually helps treat—or at least positively impacts the treatment of—multiple sclerosis, cancer, glaucoma, epilepsy, spasms, depression, migraines, asthma, pruritus, insomnia, pain, and coughing, among many others. On the flip side, there hasn't been a single study in history that recorded any harmful effects of marijuana on the brain, such as cell death, despite what its enemies constantly scream at us. It’s also been proven that, unlike tobacco or coffee, marijuana doesn't create any physical addiction. And let's be real: no one has ever been recorded dying of lung cancer solely from consuming marijuana, which is just another lie we hear from those pseudo-scientists and charlatans.
To put things in perspective: 435,000 people die every year from tobacco, and about 85,000 from alcohol. Even aspirin causes about 7,500 deaths annually.
In the six thousand years humans have been using it, there hasn't been a single recorded death caused by marijuana. Prohibition advocates love to claim that marijuana leads people to harder drugs to justify the bans. In reality, it’s the exact opposite. To get marijuana, people are forced to deal with criminals who might also have harder stuff. If you could just buy cannabis legally at a store with a receipt, that danger would disappear instantly.
Look at the Netherlands—a place where cannabis consumption is actually allowed—and you'll see they pull in about 2.5 billion euros annually just from taxes on weed and the tourism tied to their coffee shops. And here’s the kicker: even with everything being totally out in the open there, they have a lower percentage of minors using cannabis than we do in the US, and they also have a smaller percentage of hard drug addicts compared to what we see here in the States. When you look at the actual percentage of marijuana users, it's pretty much on par with the US. So, it should be blindingly obvious that prohibition doesn't actually reduce usage or make it disappear—it just pushes it underground.
Cannabis—which, mind you, plenty of respected doctors and scientists claim can treat over 2,000 known ailments—would absolutely wreck the profit margins of the current industry. I mean, seriously, why would anyone bother buying antidepressants when a proven, more effective remedy with way fewer side effects can just be grown in your own backyard? To prevent legalization from ever happening, you've got 1274 pharmaceutical lobbyists in Washington D.C. breathing down everyone's necks (that's more than two lobbyists for every single member of Congress, by the way). It's pretty ironic, too, that the US government approved Marinol, which contains The Coca-Cola Company, the very same compound that makes marijuana illegal in the first place. Every year, over 100,000 people die from prescription drugs, yet they keep being produced and sold legally.
There is no doubt about it: cannabis is hands down the most useful plant known to mankind.
The potential uses for it in medicine, textiles, food production, and even bio-diesel are practically limitless. You couldn't even begin to quantify its impact on art and culture, though it's staring us right in the face. Some of the heavy hitters who used marijuana and significantly moved the needle for humanity include guys like Friedrich Nietzsche, William Shakespeare, Abraham Lincoln, Bill Gates, Vincent van Gogh, Rembrandt, the > prophet Zarathustra, and basically every major musician from the modern era. Unfortunately, Aslinger's propaganda has managed to stick around all this time. Even today, you'll tune into some major news network and hear a bunch of mediocrities claiming that no country distinguishes between "soft" and "hard" drugs. You'll see these so-called "experts" from drug prevention offices handing out pamphlets to middle schoolers claiming marijuana permanently damages brain cells. And of course, you've got political parties scoring cheap points by accusing their opponents of being "pro-drug" while beating their chests about how they're the moral ones.
Samuel Morgan40 Samuel Morgan40 Active Member
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joined Mar 2010
#25 ·
Come on, please stop reviving the same four prehistoric threads just to dump the exact same repetitive content about marijuana everywhere. One comprehensive mega-thread is plenty—we don't need a collection of copy-pasted snippets from various news sites cluttering the board. Locked.

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