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Harold Richardson4 Harold Richardson4 Member
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joined Nov 2007
#2241 ·
FOR IV

I managed to dig up something else for you (honestly, I've been practically buried in herbal remedy books lately)
"RED CLOVER TEA is frequently consumed to stimulate liver and gallbladder function, particularly during acute or chronic congestion (Melissa Kim45 - give this a shot for mom)
It's also used to kickstart an appetite. In certain cultures, red clover tea is the go-to remedy when significant weight loss occurs following major surgeries—SPECIFICALLY STOMACH SURGERY—leaving the patient frail and lacking any desire to eat."

Instructions: To prepare the infusion, use the flowering part of the plant without the stems, or just the flower heads themselves. Steep 2 teaspoons per cup of water; let it sit for 10 minutes, then drink 2 to 3 cups daily, with or without honey
(IV, keep in mind that Dad can only handle very tiny amounts of honey)
Benjamin Grant6 Benjamin Grant6 Member
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joined Aug 2008
#2242 ·
Amy Hayes28 said:For those who have beaten ovarian cancer, besides an elevated marker, did you experience any other symptoms? How did you first discover something was wrong?
I am scheduled to have my 😁

drawn next month...

My mother spent over a month in the hospital having fluid drained from her abdomen via aspiration. She’s a heavy smoker, and early last year, she started noticing some shortness of breath. Her stomach felt tight and bloated, though she didn't think much of it because she’s always had that specific build—very thin, but with a little bit of a belly. However, once she started feeling sharp pains in her stomach area, she went to see a doctor, who then ordered a chest scan. The lungs themselves appeared clear, but they found some cloudy fluid present. She was referred to a gynecologist, which led to the biopsies... During that entire period, none of us even considered the possibility of cancer, as she hadn't experienced any side effects beyond that internal pressure.

We only realized it was cancer a month later, when the biopsy confirmed that the fluid in her abdomen contained malignant cells suggesting potential ovarian cancer. She was discharged to home care with instructions to return once the results were finalized. My father and his doctor—who happens to be a close family friend—felt we couldn't afford to wait, given that there were 5.5 liters of fluid in her body and her marker was sitting at 461.8!

Seven days later, after arriving at Aviano, she was officially diagnosed with stage IIIC ovarian cancer. And that is where our particular journey truly began...

I sincerely hope everything turns out fine for you and that it isn't ovarian cancer.

kisses
Roger Hall15 Roger Hall15 Active Member
107 messages
joined Jul 2003
#2243 ·
The results look good. Next checkup is in a month. 🙏
She didn't end up having that second bronchoscopy, so hopefully everything is fine. For now, at least. 🙏
The doctor was really pleased and called her "main" physician right away—who wasn't even there—just to share the news. No more chemotherapy. 🙏

Otherwise, man, she’s just... wandering. She gets dizzy, walks unsteady, and seems weak. It’s always worse before an appointment because she’s just exhausted from surviving it all. And then she’ll give me a call out of nowhere, acting like it's an emergency, telling me to come over so she can show me something. So I show up, and what do I see? She found these ridiculous slippers with massive soles—honestly, who knows when or where she got them—with like a two-inch sole and maybe a four-inch heel. And she struts around in them all proud. 😲
And what was she trying to do? She was reaching up to hang a calendar—she has three in the apartment, plus another one in the hallway. I asked her why on earth she needs so many calendars. "I need them," she says. This one she likes, this one has to stay, and the third one is a Catholic one and "has names on it." I just hope she doesn't start calling people around town to congratulate them on their name days. 😁

I honestly can't gauge the situation anymore. When she first got sick, back in, what, the year before last? Back when we thought it was something else entirely, I started staying closer to her and spending much more time by her side, so I began seeing things I had no clue about.
Like how she’d mess with her food, or THROW food on the floor while eating—she’d spit it out of her mouth, and the dog would be standing guard ready to make it disappear instantly. 😁
It actually surprised me how neglected the apartment has become. For instance, she had absolutely no idea the bathroom sink had cracked.
Under my firm hand, 😁 a lot of things have improved. But then she gives me that look—that senile expression, that slack lower lip—and it just hits me. Yet, sometimes she’s totally fine and has a completely different demeanor. Then, out of nowhere, she’ll say something completely nonsensical. The other day, I’m at work, we’re on the phone, and she tells me, "I won't be able to wave to you because it's so cold outside." 😲
Wave to me? I’ve been at work for three hours; I left home ages ago. 😲
She just brushes past it and hangs up on me, leaving me sitting there feeling utterly bewildered. 🤷

I’m torn on whether to let her just rest for a while—whatever that means, let it play out—or if we should push for a neurological exam to figure out what's causing this mental fog, and find a decent neuropsychiatrist who will actually examine her properly instead of just drugging her into becoming a zombie. If her condition doesn't significantly worsen, maybe it's better not to bother her.
Roger Hall15 Roger Hall15 Active Member
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#2244 ·
Linda Campbell said:FOR IV

So, I managed to dig up something else for you (I've basically been buried under herbal remedy books lately)
"RED CLOVER TEA is frequently used to jumpstart liver and gallbladder function, especially during acute or chronic congestion (Melissa Kim45 - give this a shot for Mom)
as well as to help stimulate appetite. In certain cultures, red clover tea is taken when someone experiences weight loss following major surgeries—PARTICULARLY STOMACH SURGERIES—leaving the patient weak and lacking any desire to eat."

How to use it: prepare an infusion using the flowering parts of the plant without the stems, or just use the flower heads themselves; use 2 teaspoons per cup, let it steep for about 10 minutes, and drink 2 to 3 cups a day, either plain or with a bit of honey
(IV, just a heads up, Dad can only handle a very tiny amount of honey)


Thanks. 😘
I think I might start drinking this myself, too, since I've been dealing with this nagging pain on my right side for a while now—it hits so hard sometimes I can barely catch my breath; it's brief, but it feels like it's been going on for a year. It often feels like some kind of intense cramp that lingers for hours.
At least she’ll find it easier to drink if she sees me having it too.😁

That stress is definitely leaving its mark on us, and I suppose it just hits us where we're already vulnerable.

Having frayed nerves is pretty much par for the course these days.😁
Roger Hall15 Roger Hall15 Active Member
107 messages
joined Jul 2003
#2245 ·
I won't get into a whole list here, but I'm keeping all my fingers crossed for everyone—stay strong. 😘
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#2246 ·
Melissa Kim45 said:...

Look, even a perfectly healthy person is going to lose their mind a little bit after fighting through cancer and everything else that comes with it—so don't even get me started on someone battling Alzheimer's. Listen, Alzheimer's is a progressive disease; that's just the reality of it. The goal is to stay as vital as possible for as long as you can. So, relax whenever, wherever, and however you're able to. Treat yourself to something that makes you happy once in a while. You've earned it.😉
Harold Richardson4 Harold Richardson4 Member
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joined Nov 2007
#2247 ·
Melissa Kim45;12343614 said:The results are looking good. The next follow-up is in a month. 🙏
. No more chemotherapy. 🙏

Aside from that, she’s just living her best life—big time. She gets dizzy, her balance is off, she’s weak... it’s always a struggle right before an appointment because she’s essentially running on fumes. And then she calls me up all urgent, insisting I come over immediately to "see something." I show up, and what do I see? She’s found some ridiculous platform shoes with massive soles—honestly, where does one even find those? The heel is five inches, the sole probably twelve. And she’s strutting around in them like she owns the place. 😲
As for why she wanted them? She was trying to reach high enough to hang the third calendar in the house—the second is in the hallway. When I asked why on earth she needed three calendars, she just said, "I need them." She likes this one, she needs that one, and the third one is a Catholic one that "has names." I just hope she doesn't start calling people out of the blue to wish them a happy saint's day.😁

Mila, you have NO idea how incredibly happy I am that you guys are finally DONE WITH CHEMO!!!!!!
That is fantastic news, and I am genuinely thrilled about the test results. If only I could have lived to hear someone tell us our results were okay and that the chemo was finished. That was the one thing my mother and I prayed for, the one thing we held onto hope for...

Seriously, you have no clue how many different professions I’ve seen represented here, but you and your mother are absolute legends. I joined this group to keep up with new posts, and I am absolutely dying laughing reading this. You two are geniuses. I spend my time trying to picture you both... truly brilliant. Hats off to you; you are a singular woman. Maybe I’ll actually meet you one day. Once again, I want to say how truly happy I am for you.
Let her enjoy her own little movie. My mother spent her whole life—even through her illness—living out other people's stories, being quiet and reserved just so she wouldn't offend anyone. I always wished my mother could be more like yours... someone who lives their own life and doesn't go out of their way to bother anyone else. Good grief...
You really deserve credit for having the strength to look at all of this through such a humorous lens... Wishing you nothing but the best.
Harold Richardson4 Harold Richardson4 Member
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joined Nov 2007
#2248 ·
@ Melissa Kim45,
Please, I am asking you, take care of yourself. Everything seems to hold together only as long as you're in a state of constant tension, fighting tooth and nail. The moment you finally allow yourself to exhale, the whole thing just collapses. Honestly, looking back at everything I’ve taken on, I can't even begin to quantify how much I've compromised my own health in the process... SO PLEASE, watch over yourself and find some balance; you are going to need that strength later on.
Richard Smith31 Richard Smith31 Member
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joined Oct 2006
#2249 ·
Angela Wright said:Based on everything you've described, I'm pretty sure you're dealing with endometriosis. Welcome to the club.🙄 Look, you’ll be just fine, but you seriously need to ditch that stuff and focus on healing your liver. If you don't, you're going to end up dealing with those ab pulses, which put just as much strain on your liver while you're waiting to decide on having kids. Honestly, there's an entire section of the women's forum dedicated solely to endometriosis—you really didn't need this added to your plate right now.😳

Thanks for the warm welcome!😁
I’ve been taking this for years now, so we'll just have to wait and see when it finally kicks in. Honestly, part of me thinks it might actually work, but I can't shake this nagging anxiety about the ovaries. If they aren't functioning anyway, it’s probably better if they just get removed.🙂
Richard Smith31 Richard Smith31 Member
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joined Oct 2006
#2250 ·
Melissa Kim45 said:I won't list everything, but I'm rooting for everyone—stay strong out there. 😘

God, I love reading your quotes. I really wish you'd write when things are actually going better, but honestly, you still blow me away.🙂
Richard Smith31 Richard Smith31 Member
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joined Oct 2006
#2251 ·
Linda Wright5 said:I can tell you about my sister's experience... About six months before her surgery, she started dealing with these intense cramping episodes. Her entire abdomen would just seize up in pain, and while it would pass after a day or two and she'd feel fine again, it was clearly a warning sign. During her exam, they found a cyst that turned out to be malignant...
Good luck with the surgery. I'm rooting for a speedy recovery and a full return to health 🙂!

Thanks🙂
Richard Smith31 Richard Smith31 Member
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joined Oct 2006
#2252 ·
Elizabeth Gonzalez55 said:I can give you the exact breakdown: the first cycle consists of 8 injections over a three-week period, costing $15,000. On top of that, we had to cough up an extra $1,000 deposit to cover incidental expenses—things like lab work, consultations, leukapheresis, and just the administration of the injections themselves.

If it actually works, you're looking at another $15,000 for the second cycle, and then about $2,000 per year for a single maintenance injection for the rest of your life.

Since he was seeing doctors in America, did you guys reach out to them yourselves?
Thanks
gentlemoose62 gentlemoose62 Active Member
105 messages
joined Jul 2008
#2253 ·
I haven't been super active here lately, but I've been busy with my own checkups and biopsies... but I'll get to that later!

First off, George, I am so incredibly sorry about your mom.
Melissa Kim45, I am just so thrilled about your clean results and finishing chemo! May everything stay this perfect!
Linda Hill29, please stay so brave and persistent! Just keep asking questions, ask, and then ask again! You got such great advice right away from Linda Campbell and feralwolf24—stuff you might not have figured out on your own for ages, right? This way, you can jump right in to help strengthen your dad's health! Tried and true methods are worth their weight in gold.
casualpanther1, huge congrats on your wife's clean scans! I'm really hoping things start looking up for you too! By the way, just so you know, I’ve started praying every single night—something I never did before my cancer diagnosis. It helps me so much, and I recommend it to everyone because FAITH is just an extension of the fight... it keeps your optimism alive!
Amy Hayes28, what was your CA125 level? Ovarian symptoms can be bloating, vague pressure, or occasional lower cramps, maybe even missed periods, but honestly, all of that could be endometriosis too. So just wait for that surgery; let them get it out. The main thing is that you didn't neglect your health and you've already taken all these steps.
And to all the other warriors I didn't mention...👍

Now, I really want to share some amazing news with you all. I just had my follow-up for my ovarian cancer, and everything is GREAT! My doctor actually said we can move to once-a-year checkups! Can you believe it? Once a year! If someone had told me that seven years ago, or after my last relapse four and a half years ago, I would’ve thought they were just being nice.
But it’s real, I'm not dreaming... CURE is possible, even after a relapse!
My doctor actually told me, "you can consider yourself cured," and that's the first time anyone has ever dared to say that to me.
I truly want my story to encourage every fighter out there... no matter what happens next, never, ever give up!
And finally, I want to dedicate these last few words to our biggest warrior, Din, who is recovering from surgery right now😁ina, all our thoughts and prayers are with you! Please reach out with some good news soon!
gentlemoose62 gentlemoose62 Active Member
105 messages
joined Jul 2008
#2254 ·
And finally, I want to dedicate this last word to our toughest fighter, Dina, who is currently recovering from surgery😁Dina, all our thoughts and prayers are with you—please reach out as soon as you have some good news!

Oops! I can't believe how 😁Dina turned out, that looked terrible, let me fix that right now: Dina
Harold Richardson4 Harold Richardson4 Member
16 messages
joined Nov 2007
#2255 ·
BRAVO, gentlemoose62! Hearing the word "cured" sounds absolutely magnificent. My sincerest congratulations—keep pushing forward and take good care of yourself. We desperately need more news like this in the world.
Benjamin Grant6 Benjamin Grant6 Member
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joined Aug 2008
#2256 ·
Melissa Kim45 said:The results look promising. My next follow-up appointment isn't scheduled for another month... 🙏
She hasn't undergone a second bronchoscopy yet, so I suppose everything is fine... for now... 🙏
The doctor seemed quite pleased, and she immediately reached out to her primary physician—who wasn't even available at the moment—to share the update... No more chemotherapy... 🙏

Honestly, she’s stumbling all over the place—big time. She’s dizzy, her gait is completely unstable, and she’s just incredibly weak. It seems like things always take a turn for the worse right before an appointment, likely because she’s just trying to survive at this point... And then, she gives me one of those calls, insisting that I drop everything and rush over immediately because she has something "urgent" to show me. So, I show up, and what do I find? She’s managed to track down some ridiculous platform sandals with massive soles—honestly, God knows where she even found them—with a heel that looks to be at least four inches high and a sole that's easily two. And there she is, walking around with such misplaced pride in them... 😲
She was just trying to reach high enough to hang yet another calendar—the third one in the apartment, following the second one in the hallway... I asked her what on earth she needed so many calendars for, and she simply replied, "I need them." Apparently, this particular one is a favorite and absolutely must be displayed, while the third is a Catholic one that apparently "has a name"... I can only hope she isn't going around naming people just to congratulate them on their saint's days...😁

I find myself increasingly unable to accurately gauge the situation... Since she first fell ill—back during that period two years ago when we were all convinced it was just something else entirely—I have made a conscious effort to stay closer to her side. Being present more often than I ever was before has allowed me to witness certain realities that had previously escaped my notice...
She’d be there, making a complete mess of her meal, tossing food all over the floor while she ate... and if anything actually got spat out, you could bet the dog was standing guard, ready to swoop in and make sure it vanished instantly...😁
I found myself quite taken aback by just how neglected this apartment actually is... For instance, I had absolutely no idea that the bathroom sink had cracked...
Under my steady hand...😁 Things have improved quite a bit lately. It still stings a little whenever I catch that vacant, senile expression on her face—that slack lower lip... though there are moments when she looks perfectly fine, possessing an entirely different countenance altogether. Then, out of nowhere, she’ll drop something utterly ridiculous. Just the other day, while I was at the office, we were catching up over the phone and she tells me: "I won't be able to wave at you because it's just too cold outside..."😲
What a performance... I've already been at work for three hours, though I actually left home a lifetime ago... 😲
And then she just cuts right through me and hangs up the phone, leaving me sitting there—well, just completely stunned... 🤷

I am honestly torn on whether I should let her rest for a while—though heaven knows how long that will actually last... or if we should push for a neurological evaluation to figure out what exactly is causing this constant head wobbling. I really want to find a top-tier neuropsychiatrist who can conduct a proper, thorough assessment, rather than someone who just plays around with medications and turns her into a zombie... If things don't take a significant turn for the worse, perhaps it might be kinder not to put her through the ordeal...

I posted quite a lengthy comment last night, but it seems to have vanished into the digital void without a trace... In short—it is always wonderful to receive news this positive! Hang in there...
Benjamin Grant6 Benjamin Grant6 Member
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joined Aug 2008
#2257 ·
gentlemoose62 said:I haven't been particularly active on here lately, though I have been preoccupied with my own checkups and biopsies... but we can get to that later.

Now, I simply feel compelled to share some wonderful news with all of you. I just finished my follow-up for my ovarian cancer, and everything looks absolutely fantastic. My doctor actually suggested that we move to once-a-year screenings! Just once a year! If anyone had told me that seven years ago, or even after my last relapse four and a half years back, I would have assumed they were merely offering empty comfort...
But here it is, a reality, not a dream: a total recovery is indeed possible, even after a recurrence...
My physician actually told me, "you can consider yourself cured," which was the first time anyone has ever dared to say something so definitive...
I truly hope that by sharing this, I might offer a bit of encouragement to everyone else in the fight, reminding you that regardless of what lies ahead, one must never, ever give up...

I am so incredibly glad you are here, and seeing your strength in this post has given me such a profound sense of renewed hope... It means so much that you are willing to share your journey and your victory with us. Your resilience is a rare and beautiful example for us all to follow, because... one simply cannot surrender... kisses
Linda Hill29 Linda Hill29 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Jan 2008
#2258 ·
I’m feeling pretty good today. Dad ate a decent amount, and I can actually see some strength coming back to him. He’s back to his usual moods and facial expressions, too. He’s talking and commenting more—he always loved a good conversation—so he’s starting to feel like his old self again. I’m feeling a bit more steady myself now that I’ve figured some things out and picked up a few things you all suggested might help.

Dad is heading to the hospital this Tuesday to have his stoma removed—that feeding tube connected directly to his gut (he hasn't been using it, but they left it there just in case). Has anyone dealt with this before? Is it a full-on surgery involving general anesthesia?

Thanks for the heads-up, feralwolf24. If something like that happens, at least I'll be ready; otherwise, it would've absolutely terrified me. Honestly, props to you guys for getting through all of this. You were brave, and you made it.

Linda Campbell, I’m thinking about trying Nutricomp, but I’m stuck on whether to get the regular version or the diabetic one. Which one did you go with? Dad isn't doing great on Prosure.

It’s become a habit of mine; constantly monitoring everything. It’s actually a relief to finally have people I can ask questions or just dump my worries on. I don't even know you people, yet here you are, helping me out. People can be surprisingly kind sometimes.
Benjamin Grant6 Benjamin Grant6 Member
36 messages
joined Aug 2008
#2259 ·
Linda Hill29 said:Today, I find myself feeling quite happy. My father ate reasonably well today, and I can sense his strength beginning to return; he’s displaying those familiar little quirks and facial expressions of his once again. He is also talking and commenting more frequently—he always did enjoy good conversation and socializing—so he is starting to feel more like his old self... I am feeling a bit more secure as well, now that I have uncovered certain information and acquired some things that might help, following the advice you all provided.

My father is heading to the hospital this Tuesday to have his stoma removed—specifically, that feeding tube inserted directly into the intestine (he hasn't been using it, but they left it in just in case). Does anyone here have experience with this? Is it essentially a minor surgical procedure, and does it require general anesthesia?...

feralwolf24, thank you for the warning. If something like that happens, I will be prepared, otherwise, it surely would have terrified me. You all truly deserve credit; you have navigated through all of this, remaining brave and succeeding...

Linda Campbell, I might consider trying Nutricomp, though I am uncertain whether to opt for the standard version or the diabetic formula. Which one did you use? My father isn't reacting very well to Prosure...

It has become a habit of mine; constantly monitoring everything, yet it is such a wonderful feeling to finally have people I can turn to for questions or simply to share my anxieties with. I have never met any of you in person, yet you provide such support. Truly, people can be wonderful sometimes...

Just keep staying strong and don't let anything alter your usual habits or conversations... continue doing them just as before, as if nothing had changed at all.

Unfortunately, I cannot offer much specific advice since my knowledge is quite limited, but I can certainly confirm that this environment provides strength and fortification; even a single word or a small suggestion makes everything seem much easier, even if it may not actually be...

Everything will pass and go well! Kisses
Linda Wright5 Linda Wright5 Member
11 messages
joined Aug 2010
#2260 ·
gentlemoose62 said:I haven't been super active on here lately because I've been busy dealing with my own checkups and biopsies, but I'll get into all that later!

Now, I just have to share some incredible news with you all. I went in for my ovarian cancer follow-up, and everything is PERFECT! My doctor actually told me we can move to once-a-year checkups! Can you believe it? Once a year! If anyone had told me that seven years ago, or even after my last relapse four and a half years ago, I would’ve thought they were just being nice to my face.
But it’s real, I’m not dreaming—CURE is possible, even after a relapse.
My doctor literally said, "you can consider yourself cured," and that’s the first time anyone has ever dared to say that to me.
I really want to use my story to encourage everyone else fighting this. No matter what happens next, you can NEVER give up!
And finally, I want to send my best vibes to our biggest fighter, DINA, who is currently recovering from surgery😁. Dina, all our thoughts and prayers are with you—please let us know as soon as you have some good news!

This is absolutely wonderful news🙂! Enjoy this moment and take care of your health!
You honestly made my day! I'm hoping I'll be able to post some good news about my sister very soon too (I've mentioned her on the forum before under the ovarian cancer thread).

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