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Do IBM computers have Pegasus spyware?

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Linda Collins3 Linda Collins3 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Snowden’s latest revelation is that the NSA is pre-installing spyware on computers before they even hit the shelves.

Can we actually trust major American brands like Dell, Apple, or HP not to bake spyware into hardware destined for NSA servers?
Benjamin King2 Benjamin King2 Active Member
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It doesn't make much sense to just shove spyware into random computers—I mean, really, what's the point? You’d actually want to target a specific mark, wouldn't you? And if the goal is to harvest massive amounts of data, you aren't going to waste your breath messing with one single laptop—you'd go after compromising some major network hub with huge data throughput instead.
Linda Collins3 Linda Collins3 Active MemberOP
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It probably makes sense, especially since according to Snowden, that’s exactly what they're doing... Maybe not every single machine, but if a company they're interested in orders a shipment of laptops or servers...

And as for the network side of things, Snowden reveals they even routinely embed spy hardware into servers before they're even delivered.
Linda Collins3 Linda Collins3 Active MemberOP
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http://rt.com/usa/dell-appelbaum-30c3-apology-027/

Dell is finally apologizing for selling hardware with NSA backdoors for years.
Linda Collins3 Linda Collins3 Active MemberOP
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http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/nsa-has-t...osoft-windows/

Apparently, the NSA has its own dedicated encryption key baked right into Windows. Honestly, who knows what that actually means for us...
Jack Alvarez Jack Alvarez Active Member
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You could go out and buy a Russian laptop or even a Chinese one, but if the NSA decides they want to keep tabs on you, they’ll find a way to spy on you regardless of what hardware you choose!!
Alex Barnes93 Alex Barnes93 Active Member
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It’s really just a question of what they’re gonna be spying on, if you know what I mean.
Amanda Taylor5 Amanda Taylor5 Newcomer
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It’s not just an American thing. It’s everyone.
The guys making the hardware—the low-level driver devs for chipsets and processors—they have a direct obligation to the NSA to bake in backdoors.
And it isn't just Windows either. Even Linux is suspect. Sure, Linus Torvalds claims the NSA tried to slip a backdoor into the code and failed, but let's be real: Linux is still under the NSA's thumb.
Look at SELinux. It's a supposedly "hardened" project designed for users who want maximum security, yet it just so happens to be a project started and developed by the NSA. Coincidence? I think not.

Personally, I don't have anything to hide, but I value my freedom. That’s why I use open-source Linux to build my own secure system. I build every single application, and even the chipset drivers via the Coreboot project, to handle my drivers and BIOS. It’s the only way to actually feel free...
By the way, Firefox has backdoors too. So does the Tor browser, which is marketed for "secure" deep web browsing. Even the apps for network protocols—everything is monitored. They aren't necessarily spying on you constantly; instead, those backdoors trigger based on specific "phrases" or certain actions.

That's why we need to build our own chipset drivers and BIOS from Coreboot, or even build our own version of Linux from scratch. Honestly, even Coreboot feels a bit sketchy to me lately, but there are other free firmwares and chip codebases out there.

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