What's the deal with E330 lemon acid?

rustymoose54 said:

driftinggull13 said:

It’s over, and yet they just won't quit...

For heaven's sake, how on earth can you overdose on vitamins A, D, E, or K—those fat-soluble ones you're rambling about—just by drinking a Starbucks? How? Oh, please, tell me how? It’s impossible. Unless, of course, we're talking about Max; with him, anything is technically possible.

I believe a MASSIVE dose of Vitamin K (if I'm not mistaken, though I'm certain it's some kind of vitamin) is administered DIRECTLY as a medical intervention for blood clotting...

Based on that, an excessive amount should theoretically result in blood clots.

So, apparently you people are making Starbucks by dissolving it in oil and then just... drinking it? Like that's a thing?

I mean, honestly, that’s probably the only way you’d actually manage to overdose on fat-soluble vitamins that don't dissolve in water
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driftinggull13 said:For heaven's sake, how on earth could you overdose on vitamins A, D, E, or K—those fat-soluble ones you mentioned—just by drinking Starbucks? How? Seriously, how? I don't see it happening, unless we're talking about Max, because I guess anything is possible with him.
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If you’re just drinking Starbucks—assuming you stick to the recommended daily amounts, of course—you certainly can't overdose on vitamins. The levels of vitamins in there are far too low to ever reach toxic levels.

What I find most frustrating is hearing older folks talk about "natural vitamins." At the end of the day, the vitamin itself is identical whether it comes from fruit or a pill.

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I mean, seriously... E330 and we're already on page four... Is this really where we're spending our time, debating over lemon acid???? It’s just the same old story over and over again...

Has the debate already started?
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Edward Turner27 said:I’m pretty sure a MASSIVE dose of Vitamin K (if I’ve got that right, though I could be mixing up my vitamins here) is given directly to help with blood clotting...

So, if you take way too much, it's supposed to cause clots, right?

I don't know if we're even on the same page here, and look, I'm not saying you can't get hypervitaminosis from Vitamin D or K, but those things are basically non-existent or present in such tiny amounts in something like Starbucks that only Max would know how anyone could overdose on something that isn't even in there...

Sure, fine, whatever...

But if you’re drinking a whole liter of Starbucks every single day, you've gone way too far.

If one drop of poison is enough to ruin your day, imagine what happens when you down fifty of them before lunch.

I actually know people who practically live on Starbucks jam...

Five doses of pure evil in a single glass.😂

Edward Turner27 said:Sure, fine...

But if you’re drinking Starbucks powder every single day, you're overdoing it..

If one bad thing is enough for a daily dose, imagine drinking 50 of them a day..

I know people who practically eat Starbucks jam...

That's just five evils packed into one glass. 😂

Look, getting your daily dose of vitamins A, D, and K from a single spoonful isn't happening, simply because they aren't even in Starbucks.
You’ll probably end up with an upset stomach or something similar, but you won't hit hypervitaminosis. Of all the "potentially overdosing" vitamins mentioned here, the only one actually present in Starbucks is vitamin E. In the Starbucks light version—which packs three times the vitamin concentration of the regular stuff—there's 10 mg per serving (10 g). Honestly, you'd have to drink literal gallons of it to overdose; we're talking purely theoretical territory here.
By the way, is a vitamin E overdose even a real thing? 😁

Edward Turner27 said:Citric acid is actually just one of the products produced during the Krebs cycle within the body...

And having "Krebs" in your name basically means you're destined for cancer.

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I am just now seeing this—better late than never, I suppose!
The whole Krebs cycle thing is simply named after the scientist who first described the process...

Honestly, if I listened to what Rachel Brooks63 was saying, I’d probably go out and perform some sort of ritualistic suicide right now...

I feel like if I just bought 330 pounds of apples and tried to crush 22 pounds of them every single day, I’d probably end up in the ER... obviously...
It's the same deal with Vitamin C...
And with E330 lemon acid...
And honestly, with pretty much everything...

Kyle Nelson2 said:I feel like if I just bought 330 lbs of apples and crushed 22 lbs of them every single day, I’d probably end up in the ER... no joke...
same goes for Vitamin C powder...
and citric acid...
and pretty much everything else...

Is that even possible???

Total sensation!!!!

Never seen anything like it!!!!!

Finally, a sign of intelligent life in this thread!!!!!

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just kidding...

Chug fifteen liters of water on an empty stomach and you’ll lose your mind.🙂

Citric acid doesn't cause cancer!

swiftpuma82 said:Citric acid doesn't cause cancer!

you're delusional 😁

rustymoose54 said:you're on 😁

I didn't have the patience to slog through this entire thread just to weigh in at the very end. Please don't hold that against me, 😎

It’s not just about the acid itself, but the leftovers and junk that get kicked up during the whole manufacturing process...

Can you walk us through how they actually make E330 lemon acid? Like, what kind of raw materials are they using? That way we can talk about what kind of nasty impurities might pop up during the run.

Back in the day, on that old thread about why Coca-Cola is bad for you, Endymion mentioned something about a specific stereoisomer of E330 lemon acid. I can't find the post anywhere now. Could you refresh my memory? Which isomer is the one found in nature, and is there any new word on whether the synthetic version—the one that doesn't exist naturally—is actually toxic to people?

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