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The Sea Inside

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Participants Elizabeth Garcia2Jose Miller17Daniel LopezPeter Smith4brightscout63Chris Lopez65Brenda Williams13placidseal18Arthur Martinez7restlesseagle15Larry Cruz51Terry Ramos60Thomas Diaz6wearywolf26ironcrane7Dennis Nguyen78darktinker47Richard Hernandez13Noah Watson4steelstag4stormylynx14Morgan Newman7
Jose Miller17 Jose Miller17 Active Member
162 messages
joined Sep 2003
#21 ·
Thomas Diaz6 said:I haven't seen Million Dollar Baby. But I am watching you play dumb right now. It’s about as exciting as sailing Into the Deep. "Destiny"? What kind of destiny does a guy have when he’s just counting down 28 years until he dies? He doesn't have a destiny; his destiny is just hitting the grave. And honestly, if we're talking plot—is this that "poetry from hell" book or whatever? A poem for a son? Give me a break. I could be dying right now and asking to be put out of my misery, and sure, I'd write great poetry. It's cheap and overcomplicated. That's the problem with the movie—it tries too hard. The only good part is those two dogs moving for like two seconds before it's over. 😢

you're just rambling here 😁 😁...
wearywolf26 wearywolf26 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Mar 2006
#22 ·
Look, I didn't really connect with the poetry either, but that's just my thing. Everything else—the acting, the visuals, the story—was perfectly fine. It did leave me feeling a bit unsettled, though, knowing that right before heading to Boise, I had that argument with my brother 😳
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ironcrane7 ironcrane7 Member
38 messages
joined Apr 2004
#23 ·
Who was it that brought up the "outstanding" soundtrack? Because in the thirty minutes I sat through this thing, there wasn't a single moment where the music wasn't doing all the heavy lifting. Every few seconds, some soul-crushing melody kicks in just to remind you that this is a Serious Film with a Serious Theme and Intense Emotions. Then, the dialogue tries to process the gravity of the situation. Then, we get a close-up of some miserable actors looking tortured. Then—you guessed it—more music. It’s about as subtle as a sledgehammer.
I can't say I blame myself one bit for walking out of the theater.
Dennis Nguyen78 Dennis Nguyen78 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jan 2007
#24 ·
Powerful. Truly, deeply moving... and for the record, I’m not exactly known as a crybaby, but goddammit, I was sobbing my eyes out during that movie.😳 I was sitting there in a theater packed with fifty other people, and I find it hard to believe anyone could walk away from this feeling indifferent.😲 But hey, we all react differently to different stimuli, right?
The cinematography, the score, even the casting—take Manuela, for example😍. She reminded me so much of my aunt back home who sells artisanal cheese; she just captured that sense of being completely selfless, exhausted, yet incredibly tender.
And those flight sequences? They were so visceral I felt like I was actually soaring, almost like I could feel the G-force pulling at me. And then you have people claiming this is "just" Sci-Fi.🙂
Give me a break. Since when does art have to be rational or grounded in reality? Please. They tried to beat that illusion out of us back in high school art theory class, but they failed.😉
darktinker47 darktinker47 Member
14 messages
joined May 2003
#25 ·
I didn't find the movie to be anything other than serious, grand, and
pathetic.
Quite the opposite, actually—it took a heavy, unconventional theme and handled it with such raw sincerity that you can genuinely empathize with every single character in the story.
😕Look, I get that the movie isn't everyone's cup of tea, but using the fact that you already know how it ends as an argument against it is just weak.

It’s not some high-stakes spy thriller, after all.

As for the poetic elements, I wasn't particularly blown away either, but where exactly did anyone claim it was supposed to be high poetry?😁 The fact that a book was published feels more like a textbook marketing move to me; unusual or tragic stories often sell incredibly well (some might say just like this film does
).
🙂By the way, for me, that flying scene is easily the most beautiful and impactful moment in the whole thing.
restlesseagle15 restlesseagle15 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2005
#26 ·
Look, if you’re looking for something easy to swallow, this movie is honestly pretty grating. I mean, it isn't total garbage, but it definitely tests your patience. I get the whole black-and-white worldview thing they're going for...😁
For me, those side characters were just plain exhausting. And no, I don't get the whole "two dogs mating" gimmick—like, why? Maybe Amenabar was trying to tell us he wasn't going to overcomplicate things—that his goal was just to shove his vision in our faces as bluntly and crudely as possible, because... well, life is just two dogs mating and nothing else. It should probably be titled "Two Dogs Mating" instead of Life is a Sea 🙄

By the way, that flying scene is easily the most beautiful and striking part of the whole thing 🙂

👍 👍 Personally, I like to just sink into the vibe while I'm watching. I want to actually find something meaningful in a film.
Richard Hernandez13 Richard Hernandez13 Regular
269 messages
joined May 2004
#27 ·
Baaah, you walk into the theater hoping to finally catch a decent movie, only to be stuck for two hours watching some incredibly hard-to-swallow, messy slog that feels like it was scripted by Paulo Coelho himself.

The best way to describe this film is that just a few hours after leaving the theater, I completely forgot I had even seen it.

It’s such a shame for Bardem.

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Noah Watson4 Noah Watson4 Member
33 messages
joined Jan 2004
#28 ·
Honestly, I’ve reached my limit lately with all these heavy movies about tragic human fates. Even though there's a bit of humor woven in by how Amenabar directs things, I just don't have the emotional bandwidth right now to sit through Life is a Sea... I have nothing but respect for both the director and Bardem, truly, but the actual story itself is just keeping me at arm's length for the time being. 😉
steelstag4 steelstag4 Active Member
99 messages
joined Dec 2002
#29 ·
I thought this movie was absolutely beautiful. It’s been a long time since a film hit me this hard (and actually made me cry).

And honestly, I don't quite grasp how some people managed to view this story as some sort of endorsement for euthanizing the disabled. 🙄
Throughout the entire film, he emphasizes that this is his personal choice—his own private desire. He isn't judging anyone else, and he certainly doesn't want to be judged. He simply cannot, and does not want to, continue living.
At its core, this is a question of individual liberty and personal agency. Life is a right, not an obligation, right?

The dialogue is masterful. There is this constant tension between his personal agency (him) versus the "way things ought to be" (nearly everyone else). Yet, after two hours of those heavy conversations, there are still people who manage to completely miss the point. Bravo.

The film also touches on so many other themes—love, family, friendship, sacrifice...

I see that for many of you, it felt shallow and pathetic. Well, fine, to each their own...

To wrap things up, here is the song from the end of the film (which is his, by the way):

Into the Wild, Into the Wild
And in the weightlessness of the deep
where dreams come true
two wills unite
to fulfill a single wish.

Your gaze and my gaze,
like an echo repeating without words:
Deeper, deeper
Into the great beyond
through blood and through bone.
But I always wake up,
and I always want to be dead.
So that my mouth might remain,
tangled in your hair.

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Full version:

Into the Wild, Into the Wild,
and in the weightlessness of the deep
where dreams come true,
two wills unite
to fulfill a single wish.

A kiss ignites life
with lightning and thunder,
and in a metamorphosis
my body is no longer my own;
it is like penetrating the center of the universe:

The most innocent embrace,
and the purest of kisses,
until we are reduced
into one single desire:

Your gaze and my gaze
like an echo repeating, without words:
deeper, deeper,
into the great beyond
through blood and through bone.

But I always wake up
and I always want to be dead
so that my mouth might remain
tangled in your hair.
stormylynx14 stormylynx14 Active Member
69 messages
joined Dec 2005
#30 ·
NoWa said:I usually enjoy Spanish cinema, but this one was mediocre at best.
...
rating: who knows... a movie I could have easily skipped...

I watched the DVD yesterday and partially agree.

What bothered me most was the absolute lack of any hesitation regarding suicide. For the protagonist, the director, and the entire crew, death is clearly the only solution; the only question is how to get there.

The good guy/bad guy dynamic is as black and white as an old Western. On one side, you have the charming, clever quadriplegic and his friends; on the antagonists, we get his dim-witted brother and sister-in-law, a semi-senile father, and a dogmatic, arrogant quadriplegic priest. Naturally, this reinforces the trendy view that the Catholic Church is essentially a criminal organization with the longest tradition in history—since, apparently, they burned people for heresy in the Middle Ages and now deny disabled people the right to die. It’s hard to tell which is worse. And no, I’m not particularly devout.

Then the film reaches its predictable end: the man dies with some slight discomfort. In reality, the agony lasted twenty minutes and was so horrific that the protagonist's friend fled to the bathroom. This should have been highlighted and used as an argument either for (legalize euthanasia to make dying easier) or against (dying isn't as simple as it looks), but instead, it was just glossed over.

I was actually looking forward to the cast list, only to be hit with the final blow: Julia, who betrayed the lead, is now nearly demented, almost vegetative. The screenwriter shows us with heavy-handed subtlety: "See what happens if you don't kill yourself in time." Perhaps we should celebrate it, given her cowardly betrayal earned her this fate.

A waste of celluloid. The subject deserved a much more serious approach. If I were editing the DVD, I'd at least include an alternative ending: Greyhound picks up the lead, drives him to Lourdes, and then he goes off to run a marathon. 😁

BTW, my chicken was crying like it's raining. Not the first time I haven't understood her. 😬
Morgan Newman7 Morgan Newman7 Member
47 messages
joined Nov 2020
#31 ·
stormylynx14 said:In reality, the agony lasted 20 minutes, and it was so brutal that the main character's friend had to flee to the bathroom. They should've used that to make a point—either for (legalizing euthanasia so people can end things more easily) or against (showing death isn't actually that simple)—but they just glossed over it.

Ugh, I had no idea. 😢

Now I'm reading that he started seizing and was suffering immensely before the end... even the assistant had to leave the room because she couldn't watch.

First time watching a movie like this today, and honestly, I couldn't look away. A special kind of film.

Funny thing is, Penélope Cruz also played a character who tried to take cyanide in a Bond movie—except in Bond, he survives. With some pretty nasty consequences.

So, if (and when) you ever decide you've had enough... you know what to avoid.

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