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Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark

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Participants hollowseal33amberfalcon172ruggedjackal46silentharbor88Richard Hernandez13Melissa Moore32casualotter21Justin PatelRichard Howard2quietdriver3Paul Mendoza8Nancy Kim2Jose Miller17ASteven Williams5rapidstag74Rebecca Miller2Gary Kelly8Eric Jackson43Brian Moore67Tyler Grant76
hollowseal33 hollowseal33 MemberOP
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#1 ·
Funniest. Movie. Ever.
amberfalcon172 amberfalcon172 Member
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#2 ·
Like someone somewhere already put it: the funniest. movie. ever.
ruggedjackal46 ruggedjackal46 Regular
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#3 ·
Is this actually going to hit theaters here in the States?
Who's the cast for this one?
Please tell me it isn't some pretentious, "art for art's sake" project that's only going to show up at a few indie festivals and nowhere else.😁
silentharbor88 silentharbor88 Member
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#4 ·
Has anyone else been told yet that this is hands down the most entertaining movie ever made?

It’s got those iconic ray guns that actually fire when you shake them, plus plenty of nods to James T. Kirk.

I'll let CNN handle the rest of the breakdown.

There's even a pretty obvious romantic spark flying between our brave captain and his fearless engineer. 😁
silentharbor88 silentharbor88 Member
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#5 ·
ruggedjackal46 said:Is this actually going to hit theaters?
And who's in the cast?
I really hope it isn't one of those overly pretentious, "artsy" projects that only ever shows up at indie film festivals instead of having a real run. 😁

It actually is—we already saw a production of it over on Broadway. 👋

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Cast: Jude Law, Gwyneth Paltrow, Angelina Jolie, Bai Ling, Michael Gambon
Richard Hernandez13 Richard Hernandez13 Regular
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#6 ·
Is this just total trash? 😛
silentharbor88 silentharbor88 Member
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#7 ·
Richard Hernandez13 said:Is it kind of trashy? :P

I honestly can't say—I was having such a blast watching it that I didn't even stop to think about it. 😁

By my own personal definition of what makes a movie great, this one is absolutely stellar, so it definitely doesn't qualify as trash. But hey, let's hold off and see what our resident expert, hollowseal33, has to say about it. 🙂
Melissa Moore32 Melissa Moore32 Active Member
127 messages
joined Jan 2004
#8 ·
Waaaaaaah !!!!!!!

The second you guys got home and opened this thread... total maniacs!!!

Anyway, I'm finally sitting down to give you my thoughts on the movie.....

But honestly? It’s easily the best film of the year.
hollowseal33 hollowseal33 MemberOP
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#9 ·
Richard Hernandez13 said:Is it trash? :P

Nah, the movie isn't trash at all. It's absolute madness.
Richard Hernandez13 Richard Hernandez13 Regular
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#10 ·
silentharbor88 said:There’s even a rather obvious romantic spark flying between our brave captain and that fearless technician. 😁

I guess these days you find queer subtext in the most unexpected places, don't you?

Not that I’m exactly shocked by it, though.
casualotter21 casualotter21 Regular
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#11 ·
The movie is exactly like this:
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Consider yourselves warned.

I personally found it more entertaining than Van Helsing. More fun than Kill Bill 2. More enjoyable than LXG. Ribbit's Chronicles and Underworld are left far behind in the dust.

The crew behind Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow set out to create a film in the style of 1930s pulp sci-fi, and they executed it flawlessly: the characters, the plot, those sci-fi gadgets, the dialogue... In terms of style, the film remains true to itself from the first minute to the last, much more so than Van Helsing (or so it seems to me). It is as silly as can be, but that is exactly how 1930s pulp sci-fi was. You will either love this film or absolutely despise it.
Melissa Moore32 Melissa Moore32 Active Member
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#12 ·
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow!!!!!111one

To be honest, I can’t even remember the last time I actually went to the movies with a group of people. It’s not that I’m antisocial or anything, it’s just that my real-life friends and I don't exactly share the same tastes—or lack thereof—when it comes to films. Because of that, I haven't gone to the theater with them in years. Or, if I'm being realistic, they just don't bother calling me to go anymore. 😢' ).

Honestly, I can't even remember the last time I actually hit up a movie theater for a showing after 5:00 PM. It felt like a totally new experience for me... you know, actually going to the cinema at night.

Well, I guess all good traditions have to die eventually, and it looks like this one is no exception. And honestly, is there any better way to disrespect tradition than by having a group from my beloved "Oasis of Peace" lead the charge? I don't think so. To cut a long story short, our little crew of eight—plus one—decided to be brave enough tonight to head down to Times Square to check it out. Maybe it's just me, but I honestly think this is the film of the year....and for heaven's sake, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow!!!

Another thing that doesn't happen all that often is not having to invent some trashy, fake title for a movie I just watched. For me, the first real sign that the night was going to be unforgettable was when my old man asked me, “So, what movie are you guys seeing?” and I told him, “GNISS.” He just looked at me like I was crazy and said, “Don't mess with me... what is the actual name of the movie???” Honestly, when even my dad doesn't believe a movie could actually be called “GNISS,” then you know you're in for something good.

Anyway, another good sign was the temperature, which dropped pretty significantly from being "pleasant" to feeling like frozen eggs by the time I left my place at 4:00 AM, walking from Times Square toward Broadway. The last time I froze like that on the way to the theater was last winter when I went to see Lord of the Rings... and man, that was a blast.

I was hanging out Downtown around 7:05 PM, just standing there in the restroom trying to warm up my legs while I sat there daydreaming about whether I could actually find some decent women's lingerie catalogs somewhere. I guess I don't even know where to start with this one. It’s just... frustrating. Maybe I'm being too harsh, but there's really no other way to look at it. I guess I already finished number one before the movie even started...😂It’s just plain rude to get up while a movie is playing, you know. 🙂

I was already hanging out on the second floor at a nearby pub, where my buddy Blacky was busy killing time with some popcorn and beer. I figured I’d jump in and help the poor guy so he wouldn't have to finish it all by himself. Before long, we were joined by the folks from CNN and Easy, and eventually, the rest of the crew showed up too—Pritty, otO, Carrot, and Unspeakable.

Ticket distribution is happening, and honestly, seeing that third, final, good sign... sitting right next to CNN. "This is gonna be soooo fun."

Once we finally stocked up on enough snacks, we hit the opening credits right on cue. 👍

Trailers:

I didn't really pay close attention at first because there was some massive mess-up with my seating assignment... I don't even remember the title, honestly.

Then came Polar Express, followed by what I've been calling the "Great shame animated film" since last summer. Then there was The Incredibles, which, as of today, I’m labeling the "biggest insult by crappy distributors" (mostly because of that awful American dubbing). To wrap it all up, we ended with Ocean's Twelve.

To be honest, none of them really caught my eye enough to make me want to sit down and watch. I guess the only exception would be The Incredibles, but I've been wanting to see that one for a long time now.

Film : Film

The movie kicks off with some pretty rough CGI shots of New York City in the winter and the Hindenburg III hovering near the Empire State Building... but honestly, I guess it’s actually a good thing. It isn't like those other movies where they front-load everything with killer cinematography, insane effects, and top-tier CGI, only for the quality to completely vanish halfway through. Here, it feels like the producers are basically telling us, “Hey, we aren't even trying to make this look perfect,” which actually makes it much easier to just relax. You can just enjoy the movie for what it really is instead of sitting there getting worked up over how much better it should have been.

We’re about to be introduced to our heroine, Polly, the journalist played by Gwyneth Paltrow—and honestly, screw the spelling, I don't care. I have to admit, this might be her hottest role ever. I guess if you're like me and have a thing for women in their late 20s or early 30s, or just that whole Victoria Lake vibe, you're probably going to be pretty much as hooked as I am.

Polly is your typical female lead who constantly finds herself in trouble, though I guess it's less because she's reckless and more just because she keeps showing up where she doesn't belong. And of course, her hair is perfectly blue and stays flawlessly styled regardless of whether the weather is hitting New York City, the Himalayas, some tropical island, or if they're mid-air or deep underwater... Yeah... Gwyneth is basically just a walking advertisement for L'Oréal or one of those high-end hair products in this movie.

Then again, what would our heroine even be without her prince charming? Except in this case, instead of a horse, we get a guy with blindingly white teeth in a cockpit. That "prince" is Sky Captain, a guy named Joe played by Jude Law.

So, what happens next??? After giant robots attack NYC for absolutely no reason, after Polly gets two vials from a dying scientist (which she conveniently doesn't tell Joe about until they get stolen), and after a fleet of robo-birds led by evil ninja-jedi wipes out Sky Captain's base and kidnaps his geeky mechanic, Dex, Joe and Polly head off to the Himalayas. They're hunting down some villainous Dr. Tupenkoft (or whatever his name is) whom they suspect is pulling the strings behind the robots and the scientist murders.

Up to this point, the movie actually looked pretty promising. I mean, hey, we're already seeing stuff most movies don't show until the final act: massive robots leveling NYC, evil ninja-jedi, crazy plane chases through the skyline, planes turning into amphibians, and my personal favorite—that ray gun with the concentric circles for beams.

Naturally, CNN didn't bother trying to make sense of the plot or predict what was coming next. I'm telling you guys, the guy has almost prophetic powers because everything he said actually happened (though, I suppose, there were a few things that caught even him off guard).

Anyway, I won't spoil it all for you or ruin the fun for CNN, since I know they're just dying to recount the whole plot... so I'll stop recounting it here. But I think you've probably gotten a pretty good idea of just how much of a blast this movie is.

Let's just say it's packed with legendary scenes: rooms full of dynamite, Rivendell vibes, flying fortresses, Titanic moments, dinosaurs, fembots, Noah's Ark, and even quotes from Captain Kirk....

Legendary moments:

CNN: All we need now is some dinosaurs and this movie will be complete.
*one minute later*
CNN: yeah.... yeah...... yeah.

I laughed so hard I almost had an accident.😳

personal impression:

This movie has everything... and I mean EVERYTHING. Honestly, watch this and you might not ever need to see another movie again. The CGI is such that half the movie is basically a cartoon, and the other half, the "live action" part, feels like a cartoon too. 😁

This is definitely the best live-action and best animated thing I've seen all year. 10/10. 🙏

I think it could probably sweep the Oscars:

Best Actor: Jude Law – for playing Sky Captain
Best Actress: Gwyneth Paltrow – for playing the reporter Polly
Best Supporting Actor: *that guy from Friends who plays Phoebe's half-brother* – for playing the geeky mechanic Dex.
Best Supporting Actress: the evil ninja-jedi-fembot CGI
Best Film: Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Best Animated Film: Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow

Big thanks to the crew from last night.... it was wild and unforgettable... 'we should do it again sometime'. 👍

My advice to everyone else: You HAVE to see this, but definitely do it with company. Watching it solo isn't just a waste of time; it's throwing money down the drain. Grab your popcorn and soda, round up your friends, and hit the theater... anyone who misses this is a total loser. 😉

Replying to Richard Hernandez13: There isn't a single trash scene in the whole thing... it's all pure pulp... and honestly, overkill pulp. I think "pulp" just got a new subgenre, and I'd call it GNISS.🙏
Richard Hernandez13 Richard Hernandez13 Regular
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#13 ·
Adam Wright56 said:Richard Hernandez13's response: There isn't a single trashy scene in sight... the whole thing is just pure pulp... actually, it's pulp on steroids. I honestly think they've invented a whole new subgenre here, and it should probably be called "GNISS." 🙏

I know, man.

The "question" was actually aimed at hollowseal33, since she was the one insisting that Angelina's eye patch and the air raids over New York City were "trashy."
From what I can tell, though, she seems to have changed her mind.

...or maybe she was just pulling my leg from the very beginning.

Don't trust women.
Melissa Moore32 Melissa Moore32 Active Member
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#14 ·
Richard Hernandez13 said:I hear you, man.

The "question" was actually aimed at hollowseal33, since she was claiming that Angelina's eye patch and those zeppelins over New York City were "trashy."
From what I can tell, she seems to have changed her mind.

To be honest, I was expecting total trash at first too, but they actually pulled it off... like CNN said, "the film stays true to itself" and isn't trying way too hard to be something it's not.

There are plenty of clichés, I guess, but it doesn't feel trashy at all.

Richard Hernandez13 said:Don't trust women.

[Mr. Garrison mode]

Oh, I don't trust anything that bleeds for 5 days and doesn't die.

[/Mr.Garrison mode]

😂
Justin Patel Justin Patel Active Member
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#15 ·
I had a feeling this would turn out to be a great movie.
The title was actually quite a lot.

Roughly how long is the runtime?
Melissa Moore32 Melissa Moore32 Active Member
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#16 ·
Justin Patel said:I knew this would be a good movie.
But the title was a bit much.

About how long does the movie run?

Man, I have no clue... it just flew by for me...

Let me try to remember...🤔

Say it started around 8:45 PM, and we walked out around 10:15 PM, if I recall correctly. Maybe an hour and change... *shrugs*
Justin Patel Justin Patel Active Member
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#17 ·
This movie absolutely rocks! 1!!_!!_""_!_!"!"_!"!"bšćč3.
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It's been at least a year since I felt this satisfied walking out of a movie theater.
Even Lord of the Rings got a nod in comparison.-
The whole film be perfect.

From the very first scene right through to the end.

I actually found myself laughing at some of the jokes they intentionally tucked in there.

So, when is the sequel coming?=?
Richard Howard2 Richard Howard2 Active Member
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#18 ·
What is wrong with you people? The movie is just plain terrible. It isn't because it tries too hard to channel the 1930s, nor is it because the characters are flat husks serving as mere scenery, or because it leans into trash aesthetics, or even because it functions as nothing more than a visual picture book. No, the real issue is the massive gap between a brilliantly atmospheric, nostalgic opening—where the effects and sequences captured the mood of the classics so effectively (I am thinking specifically of the 1939 film Things to Come) that they actually stir the viewer—and the poorly articulated mess that follows. In the rest of the film, the effects are just piled on without any purpose in building atmosphere; it becomes a mindless parade of technical demonstrations, plagued by jarring set changes and total inconsistency. It utterly ruined what could have been a genuine treat.
It is always the same story: the first act is excellent because actual work went into it, but then they have to cobble the rest together just to hit a runtime requirement...

A real shame.
casualotter21 casualotter21 Regular
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#19 ·
Richard Howard2 said:What is wrong with you people?

So, we have different tastes? 🙂
A shame.

Look, personally, I think the movie is great because films that prioritize style over substance have always been my weakness, and when I encounter one that adheres so consistently to its predetermined aesthetic, I can’t help but be impressed. Does that mean the film is just a colorful picture book? Yes.

And if it could have been better, it could have. But Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow is one of those rare films where saying "it could have been better" isn't a critique, but a genuine lament: if the leads had been a bit more relaxed and the supporting cast possessed a bit more personality (with the honorable exception of Angelina Jolly Roger), the film might—*might*—have actually been as good as—dare I say it?—The Optimists.

But even as it stands, I find the film quite good: a vibrant, entertaining picture book with enough style to ensure I was never bored for a single second.
casualotter21 casualotter21 Regular
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#20 ·
casualotter21 said:I actually found myself laughing at some of the jokes that were clearly intended to be funny.

Isn't that just great? After sitting through so many trashy flicks lately, it’s actually quite refreshing to watch an American sci-fi adventure where you can laugh WITH the movie rather than at it.

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