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Healthcare, Doctors, and... Money?

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Jamie Clark74 Jamie Clark74 RegularOP
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#41 ·
US Forum... I lost my entire long post... I really don't have the heart to rewrite the whole thing again. In short:


Sunday mail
3/7/2005
Adelaide
South Australia


Adelaide has a population of about 1.05 million. It’s a highly developed city even if it isn't huge. We actually just secured a $4.5 Billion Dollar deal for the state to build war destroyers.

We have two well-known medical schools here, and we train students from all over Asia... most of whom end up staying because they love the area and the laid-back lifestyle.

The issue is our doctors—especially specialists—moving away to Sydney or Melbourne where the conditions are better and the paychecks are bigger.
Today, the papers are covering the mess happening within our public hospitals.
We’ve all dealt with waiting lists. Personally, I see seven out of my eight specialists privately, except for when I need a Neurologist.

The real trouble is that the Liberal government has gutted the medical system. There was a time when everything was accessible, and private insurance was mainly just for getting a private room in the hospital.
But now, private doctors only work in private hospitals. If you don't have private insurance, you're stuck with the public system, which often lacks enough specialists—if it has any at all.

For a hip replacement, you're looking at a wait of over two years. First, you wait a year just to see a specialist.

One elderly woman actually took her story to the papers regarding a knee surgery on her right leg.
She had surgery on her left leg six years ago, and they told her she’d eventually need it on the right one too.
She applied for a specialist appointment five years ago... she's still waiting for the actual surgery. She's in constant pain. On top of that, she’s 84 years old and has to care for her 86-year-old husband, who suffered a stroke. She handles everything for him.
When she spoke up, it made waves all over Adelaide, but we all know how things really are. The politicians don't feel the pressure because they aren't living through it.

Up until I retired in 1992, I always had the best of everything, but nowadays, retirement pay just doesn't cut it.

We never really had a system as solid as what they have in the UK, Germany, or much of Europe and Canada.

It’s created two classes here: those with money who can pay for everything, and the poor who are left with nothing. Believe me, retirees here aren't in any better shape than you are.
I follow your struggles closely and I see what's happening.

It’s turning into the American capitalist system... if you're wealthy, working, and can afford the bills, you're fine. But for the majority? That's not the case. If you can't pay, nobody cares. You just die.
granitebadger25 granitebadger25 Member
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#42 ·
Bill

I appreciate you sharing this perspective, though I find myself wondering if anyone else besides me is actually reading these posts.

The reality is that one of the most common complaints directed at American doctors involves long wait times for diagnostic tests and elective surgeries.

People love to invoke the idea of "Western" medicine and healthcare as a catch-all solution... as if everything is perfectly streamlined over there and you just walk right in when you need help. 🙄

In America, we deal with fewer physicians per capita, not to mention the constant shortages of medical equipment. It certainly isn't my experience that anyone has to wait 12 to 18 months just to see a neurologist.

Even so-called socialized nations struggle significantly. In Canada, people can wait up to a year for a brain CT scan, and in the United Kingdom, the wait for hip surgery can stretch to four years.
I recall Kiki posting on this forum a few years ago about how, upon returning from Thailand, she was running a fever and terrified she had contracted malaria because she hadn't been vaccinated. Her doctor wouldn't even be able to see her for three weeks—despite the suspicion of malaria!

While the American healthcare system suffers from poor organization, funding issues, and various other systemic failures, I highly doubt anyone would leave a patient with suspected malaria waiting three weeks for an evaluation. 😲

It would be beneficial for those who harbor the delusion that things are inherently better in the West—and yes, I am including Australia in that group, despite being in the East 😉—to read this.

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