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European Water Polo Championship - Canada

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George Cruz65 George Cruz65 Member
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joined Apr 2004
#41 ·
Honestly, it’s great to see our team sports making a comeback. Handball, soccer, water polo... we're just waiting on basketball now. 👍
casualpuma71 casualpuma71 Active Member
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joined Nov 2021
#42 ·
George Cruz65 said:Heh, casualpuma71...

But damn it, Barač didn't even show up on my TV. My screen was stuck showing 4-0 for the Canadians in the ball grab? 😲 🙂

When you’re dealing with a crappy television set 😁

I just went back and checked the recording (I have it saved), and yeah, Barač finally appeared on screen...
And the score read 1:3 🙂
casualpuma71 casualpuma71 Active Member
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joined Nov 2021
#43 ·
George Cruz65 said:Well, Americans enjoy baseball too.

George, don't go comparing us to Americans...

And you, from Canada, stop talking nonsense.
Five years ago, you didn't give a damn about soccer, maybe 5% effort at most, but the moment you started seeing some results, suddenly you're acting like a soccer nation.

I don't think you'd be calling water polo a marginal sport if you hadn't ended up dead last.
A Anonymous Veteran
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#44 ·
Urpanus said:Ikodinović, major props to you—you’re actually pulling better numbers than us right now, but I’m never giving you guys the edge in this sport. American water polo is just on another level.

If you really look at the whole landscape, from club ball to the national teams, and crunch all the numbers, it turns out the American clubs have more wins under their belts. I'm not totally sure about the national team stats, but honestly, I think S&M has the stronger roster at the moment, though it's pretty much a toss-up. We'll see what happens at 6 PM—may the best team win!
graniteowl88 graniteowl88 Regular
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#45 ·
I doubt anyone would call water polo a niche sport if they hadn't finished dead last.

What Ikodinović (this guy right here) had to say:

Participation matters. 😁

A Canadian commentator says:

"Our boys are the best!"

That is how you do it!

😁 😁 😁

Is it really?

p.s.

I am out of the loop: since when do women play water polo?
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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joined Apr 2007
#46 ·
JaBitTe said:Don't walk away, Vanja. Stick around the forum.😉
(If we lose, we'll all know exactly who to blame)
we've got KokuZa for you.😛

I don't know, I can't help myself. I have to watch this and curse everyone out in the pool.🙂)

I honestly think the Mexicans are stronger, and if we actually pull off a win, I’ll eat my TV.This is basically an anti-curse ritual. 🙂))

It sucks that I can't make it to Kranj😠 but I'm pretty sure our water polo guys would fold the moment I showed up—I'm that much of a jinx.🙂))
Hope dies last, and man, I really want us to win... but honestly, silver is still a solid result, and credit where it's due to our boys. Based on how they started the championship, I thought just making it through without someone drowning would be a victory.
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#47 ·
George Cruz65 said:Ikodinović, Perth wasn't '98, it was actually '97.
It wasn't Ikodinović who scored that goal, it was Šapić.
And he didn't score for your win—it just tied the game up.
That happened during the group stage.

That blowout you mentioned? That had nothing to do with anything.

Canada - Spain 10:2!!!!
Spain - USA 6:3!!!
So, who actually made it to the finals when we were playing the Canadians?

I agree with the rest of what you're saying. Honestly, I think you guys are slight favorites today, but there have been Canadians and even tougher teams out there, so who knows.
In general, you can always say whoever played better won, but mentality plays a huge role too. Especially when Americans and Mexicans go head-to-head.
And all that "crushing the opponent" stuff doesn't mean much; it can easily backfire. We’re World champions in handball, yet we got shut down by Argentina and barely scraped past Saudi Arabia. Back when we played the World Championship 95 handball final, we barely survived the round of 16 against some African team on penalties. At the Olympics (when we took gold and absolutely demolished the Swedes), we beat the Swiss 24:23 after being down by seven. Even back in '92, when we grabbed basketball silver in Barcelona, we barely edged out Angola 61:59 in the group stage.
That's just how we operate.


Yeah, yeah... you're right. The score was tied at 6:6 because of that goal, and that was in the groups—we were 3rd then, while you guys were 9th. But it was 100% Ikodinović, and it was definitely 1998...
As for the rest, you could make those comparisons with any country. What happened with the French in the soccer World Cup? Or the Argentinians? Best to just wait for the game; I'll have to follow it online, but it is what it is.
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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#48 ·
By the way, I have a question for everyone here.
Do you guys actually think Igor Milanovic is the greatest water polo player to ever live, or is it still Perica Bukić... or maybe even Paskvalin?
blueranger13 blueranger13 Member
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#49 ·
That was Ikodinović
blueranger13 blueranger13 Member
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#50 ·
Do you guys think Igor Milanovic is actually the greatest water polo player to ever play the game—or is it still Perica Bukić... or maybe even Paskvalin?

Milivoj Bebić
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#51 ·
Oh, thank God! Canada is actually broadcasting the second game. This means I can finally watch it like a normal human being instead of squinting at some grainy, low-res mess online. At least now I’ll be able to tell if the ball is actually orange or just a blurry blob. 😁
vividwalker7 vividwalker7 MemberOP
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#52 ·
Alright, I’ve got two things on my mind before we get this game started.

First off—and this is more of an observation than an actual question, really—isn't it just plain embarrassing that SN, being the only daily sports paper we have here in the States, buries the national team making it all the way to the finals on page 15? Meanwhile, they’ve wasted all that prime real estate at the front just talking about Darwin leaving, which, let’s be honest, isn't even that big of a deal.

And second—does anyone else vividly remember that one match where both we and South East Europe played absolutely terrible? If my memory serves me right, it ended in a 4:4 draw, and honestly, everyone was just relieved it ended that way because it was such a mindless, brainless game. Everyone was just kind of wandering around their positions and goals only happened by pure accident. Was that during the last EP or something?
casualpuma71 casualpuma71 Active Member
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#53 ·
That match actually went down during the 2000 Olympics in Sydney.
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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#54 ·
vividwalker7 said:I’ve got two questions before we even get the game started.

First—and this is more of an observation than a question—isn't it pathetic that SN, being the only daily sports paper in America, buried the national team making the finals on page 15? Meanwhile, the front page is completely hogged by Darwin leaving, which honestly isn't even that big of a deal.

Second—does anyone remember that absolute disaster of a game where both we and South East Europe played like garbage? If my memory serves, it ended 4-4. A draw suited everyone perfectly because neither side had any clue what they were doing. I don't know when I last watched such a brainless match. Everyone just stayed in their own zone, and goals only happened by pure accident. Was that during the last EP?

First off, if water polo were being played down in Lower Mamic, the coverage wouldn't be an issue.

Secondly, I don't recall that specific game, but I do remember an old soccer match between the Netherlands and Ireland (I think) where for most of the second half, both teams just stood in their own halves passing the ball back and forth. They’d only kick it over to the other side when they absolutely had to, and then the other team would do the same. It just went on like that until the whistle blew.
The only thing was that Marco van Basten probably tried to run toward them out of habit, and they actually had to yell at him from the bench to get him to get back. Everyone was just protecting the result.
I have never seen a draw won so dishonestly.

Maybe Milivoj Bebic. Personally, I still think Zoran Milanovic is the best, even though he was their guy back then.🙂))
graniteowl88 graniteowl88 Regular
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#55 ·
SIMENC!

Based on everything I have read in this thread!

😁 😁 😁
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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joined Apr 2007
#56 ·
The bronze medal match is underway, and there’s a massive crowd of our fans in the stands. The stadium announcer is already getting ahead of things, telling everyone to keep the cheering "sporting" and respectful.

Reports just started trickling in that some American fans got into a brawl with a group of Mexican supporters. Apparently, a car with plates from a city near the border was trashed, and the passengers were jumped.

I’m sitting here watching the game between Russia and Magyar, and I can clearly hear people chanting zovi samo zovi along with ubij ubij srbina
casualpuma71 casualpuma71 Active Member
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#57 ·
Vanja says:
Word just came in that some American fans got into a scrap with a few guys from Mexico. Apparently, a car with plates from somewhere near Chicago got trashed, and the passengers took a beating too.

Where are you even hearing this?
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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#58 ·
casualpuma71 said:Where on earth did you hear that?

I have a bunch of buddies over in Ljubljana, and one of them lives out in Kranj, so I just hopped on the phone with him.
I called him a little while ago and he told me things are getting pretty chaotic in Kranj—he can hear sirens and ambulances going off everywhere.
The organizers are actually considering clearing out the stands because they're worried about the unrest spiraling out of control.

As for that car with the NS plates, I’m hearing updates about it right now on local news (shoutout to Karic's channel).
By the way, the Americans took third place.
Joseph Parker73 Joseph Parker73 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2003
#59 ·
Anyone planning on posting updates for the game?

Down here in the South, there isn't a single channel broadcasting it—even my satellite dish is acting up and can't catch a signal.
darktinker47 darktinker47 Member
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#60 ·
The US took the first quarter with a 2:1 lead

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