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Participants Noah Myers8Andrew Anderson6Ashley Lewis32Keith Robinson2Brian Hayes26Casey Palmer5ALisa Lee2jadesailor14Michael Martin18Rachel Walker56Joseph Thomas63Charles Hill78Betty Allen15brisknomad6silentbear15Frank Lee6Jesse Miller77melloworca6
Charles Hill78 Charles Hill78 Member
10 messages
joined Oct 2005
#21 ·
There’s absolutely no point in me dumping my whole life story here 🙂

but here are the takeaways:
The first thing I decided was to stop being a mindless follower of the rules.
The Ratios: In several parts of the book (that first one), it mentions that the carbohydrate:fat:protein ratio (specifically, the calorie split) should be roughly equal, and that you can basically figure out what works best for your own body. Obsessing over pinpoint accuracy is a total waste of time because eventually, you're going to slip up anyway.
My take: 40% is basically the same as 35% or 45%, but it sure as hell isn't the same as 50-60%.

Portion Sizes: If you actually look at the numbers, almost every weight range from 130 to 260 pounds boils down to roughly 12-15 blocks. This means one extra block isn't going to make or break you. Especially when you consider how I used to eat before I even gave a damn about this stuff.
My take: Cutting back on volume matters, but again, we're talking "ballpark" figures—roughly 40% less than what I was eating before.

Consistency: This is huge, especially since trying to coordinate five meals a day is a logistical nightmare. But look, it IS doable. Personally, my favorite was always that late-night snack—red wine and cheese. 🙂

When I started, I was incredibly strict. Now, I’ve loosened up a bit (for instance, I eat more ice cream), but I’m still way more disciplined than I ever was with my old diet.

There’s more to it, obviously, but that’s enough for now.

PS. Everything I just said is strictly based on my own experience. Since I’ve had my fair share of arguments in real life about what's right or wrong, I’m presenting this as my personal journey, not as some universal truth. If I didn't believe it worked, I wouldn't be doing it, but I'm not here to lecture anyone.
brisknomad6 brisknomad6 Active Member
222 messages
joined Nov 2012
#22 ·
Man, I really need to get my hands on that cookbook... maybe borrow it for a bit
...
Hey, Kate Sullivan22? 😁 😉
Rachel Walker56 Rachel Walker56 Member
11 messages
joined Aug 2004
#23 ·
Charles Hill78, thanks for the info. Glad to hear it’s working for you too. Honestly, I haven't touched a cookie, a cracker, or a piece of chocolate in eight days now, and calling that a win feels right. The cravings? Gone. But the real victory is that I'm never actually hungry. That miserable, deprived feeling that used to haunt me through every cycle of starving and binging is just... dead.
And look, if you actually sit down and study the Cookbook properly—for those who care to, obviously—you realize it’s not rocket science. What’s so complicated about a meal consisting of some cheese cubes and a glass of wine or beer? Absolutely nothing. Truly.
Someone mentioned that a hamburger is fine, but I don't think it's that black and white; they were probably just showing how you can tweak that kind of eating to fit Zone principles. It’s not as pervasive here, but in the States, the junk food scene is a total disaster. I'm not saying go out and poison yourself with burgers, but like Charles Hill78 said, slipping up once isn't the end of the world. 🙂
silentbear15 silentbear15 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Jul 2003
#24 ·
I’ve read both the Zone Diet and the Healthy food combining books.
They are worlds apart—one insists on keeping proteins and carbs strictly separated, while the Zone allows them together... So, how are you actually supposed to eat? Personally, I found the food combining approach more interesting, but the lifestyle just didn't click for me. It leaves you feeling like you're missing something, and I’d end up hungry. For what it's worth, I’m at a healthy weight and have never struggled with extra pounds. Eventually, I just gave up on those strict rules; I don't eat junk, and I generally try to eat clean—lots of fruit, veggies, whole grains, that sort of thing. Once I started combining proteins and carbs in the same meal, everything seemed fine—my digestion hasn't skipped a beat—so I decided to stick with that. The one rule I still follow religiously is eating fruit on an empty stomach (at least one apple) or treating it as its own separate snack.
Rachel Walker56 Rachel Walker56 Member
11 messages
joined Aug 2004
#25 ·
Look, these two theories are total opposites, but hey, it's on us to test them out and see what sticks.
Even Barry Sears points out that everyone reacts differently to carbs—some people spike insulin like crazy, others don't.
We’re all built differently, so we need different ways to eat. For me, this is working perfectly fine. I don't feel like crap even though I'm staying under 1100 calories a day. I just pair low-cal veggies with lean meat, fish, or egg whites. I feel great and—get this—I'M NOT EVEN CRAVING SUGAR, woohoo! Today I baked a birthday cake for my little nephew, though I didn't touch a bite (who knows how much sugar is actually in there, haha), and I made some baklava for my parents. It was basically a science experiment. If someone had told me I’d be baking desserts without wanting to devour them, I would’ve called them insane! My house is always full of sweets being baked, but now I'm just the baker. 😉That's the part that blows my mind!!!!! 🙏
Anyone else feeling this? Anybody?
silentbear15 silentbear15 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Jul 2003
#26 ·
I'm seeing the same thing here—though I’d argue it’s more about that internal drive to overhaul your entire diet. Once you actually pull off a total lifestyle shift, you tend to stick to it; the urge to regress just isn't there. I used to be absolutely obsessed with sweets, but now? Sometimes we'll bake something, and I can look right at it and feel zero desire to even take a bite.
Rachel Walker56 Rachel Walker56 Member
11 messages
joined Aug 2004
#27 ·
Exactly. It wasn't just about the weight or the cellulite (god, 😁 ), it was the family history of diabetes. Given how much sugar I used to inhale, I was basically sprinting toward a disaster. Just thinking about the amputations, the blindness, and all that other nightmare fuel 😢 linked to diabetes... it's terrifying. At my last checkup, my doctor gave me a serious warning to cut back on the sweets and fats because my blood sugar was creeping up. Naturally, I panicked, but then came the first temptation 😛—and those pastries were impossible to resist. Not anymore, though. I’m feeling amazing now. Part of it is definitely the new menu, but honestly, I’ve wanted to change how I eat for ages; I just couldn't make it stick. Now? It’s a total piece of cake 👍 😁
Frank Lee6 Frank Lee6 Member
42 messages
joined Oct 2005
#28 ·
While I don't doubt both approaches yield results, separating proteins from carbohydrates feels somewhat unnatural to me. Since both are essential metabolic drivers, omitting one seems bound to create an imbalance.

The fundamental cause of weight gain is consuming excessive carbohydrates relative to energy expenditure, so that's where our focus should lie—limiting intake to reasonable levels and prioritizing low-glycemic options. Meanwhile, protein is vital for preserving muscle mass; if you consume carbs without enough protein, you risk losing muscle, much like the effects of starvation dieting.
Betty Allen15 Betty Allen15 Newcomer
6 messages
joined May 2013
#29 ·
When you actually get the hang of Healthy food combining throughout the day, you’re still getting your fill of carbs and protein—they just aren't all crammed into one sitting. Take breakfast, for example. You might go with some carbs, like yogurt or skim milk (even that super low-fat stuff we see in the US is totally fine). Honestly, I think at its core, the Zone and Healthy food combining are basically two sides of the same coin. Since veggies count as carbs, you can easily pair them with proteins. It all really comes down to the glycemic index of those carbs anyway. For me, this method has been a total lifesaver because there's none of that miserable, soul-crushing hunger. You don't get those crazy cravings when you're eating everything you want while following the right combinations. And let's be real, it doesn't ruin your social life either; even at fancy dinner parties, you can always find something that fits the rules without feeling like an outcast. I’ve been doing this for five years now, and I eat plenty—sometimes quite a bit, actually—yet my weight is exactly where it was when I was in my twenties. I don't feel restricted at all. If I want a dessert, I have a dessert. My body doesn't even freak out over the occasional slip-up anymore. I used to have blood sugar levels hovering right on the edge of being problematic, especially after dealing with gestational diabetes during pregnancy and having a family history of it, but now my numbers are looking great. This way of eating has seriously leveled up my health because it’s packed with vitamins and hits the right balance of protein and carbs, plus it isn't a headache to plan meals around.
Charles Hill78 Charles Hill78 Member
10 messages
joined Oct 2005
#30 ·
I don't know anything about food combining, so I can't really weigh in on that. With the Zone Diet, you're looking at three main meals a day where every single one follows the exact same ratio of carbs, protein, and fat, while your two smaller snacks just follow that same ratio but in a smaller portion.
People constantly overcomplicate the Zone and act like it's some impossible math equation. At the end of the day, it's just about monitoring what you put in your mouth. It used to be that I'd obsessively scan every single ingredient label on a product, but now when I hit the grocery store, I know exactly what I need. If I grab a fruit yogurt, I know it's loaded with extra carbs. That doesn't stop me from having a small fruit yogurt as a snack, though. It isn't strictly by the book, but like I said before, I decided from the start that I wasn't going to be a fanatic about following every rule perfectly. My take is that it's actually healthier to eat that yogurt and take a little more carbs than it is to starve. Either way, your hormones are going to get thrown off, but if you actually eat something, your body won't trigger those massive hunger pangs that eventually lead to storing fat.
I was incredibly strict during the first few months, but I've loosened up since then. I'll have a piece of cake or grab some ice cream at least a few times a week, but I still steer clear of fruit juices and stuff like bread, pasta, rice, or potatoes.
Rachel Walker56 Rachel Walker56 Member
11 messages
joined Aug 2004
#31 ·
I used to be oblivious to nutrition labels, but now I scan them and instantly run the math in my head—boom, too much fat, way too many carbs (usually), and barely any protein. I see right through it now. It’s not even a huge deal, though; if I grab some fruit yogurt, I just toss in an egg or a bit of cheese or some chicken to balance things out.
Since I train pretty hard, the guys at my gym kept lecturing me about needing meat. Like, duh, obviously! But I’ve never been a big meat eater. It was a struggle—I’d show up to a workout after just eating fruit or veggies and basically pass out from hunger and exhaustion. Now, I make sure to have a little protein with an apple before and after fitness, and the fatigue is gone. Turns out, my muscles were just cannibalizing themselves because they lacked protein. Honestly, this is a total win. I don't even see it as a diet anymore; it's just how I'm going to eat for as long as I'm still kicking 😁 .
Kate Sullivan22, you've been quiet—any changes happening with your Zone journey?🙂
A Anonymous Veteran
3.6K messages
joined May 2005
#32 ·
Brian Hayes26 said:I actually prefer it over the Atkins diet, though I eventually moved away from the Zone.
At the end of the day, I just trust my own gut... 😎
..and E/C/A 😁

Does anyone know where I can pick up some E/C/A? I've searched everywhere online and come up totally empty. Apparently, you can only find it through unofficial channels. Does anyone have a lead or a contact?
Thanks.
Jesse Miller77 Jesse Miller77 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Apr 2013
#33 ·
If anyone happens to be selling a copy of the Zone Diet, please let me know. I really need one!
Or anything else by Barry Sears or Grbac...
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
551 messages
joined May 2010
#34 ·
There’s already a thread over on the Gastronomy forum about the Zone, here's the link: Zone Diet. Go ask your questions there. I'm closing this one down.

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