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William Bennett53 William Bennett53 Regular
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#201 ·
Gentlemen, I have moved several dozen posts from this thread to their appropriate locations (specifically in my driver has more talent than yours). Among them, aside from the usual nonsense like "Vettel is a fraud and Alonso is an unlucky god" or "Red Bull doesn't have a dominant car," there were actually a few insightful posts, but they don't belong in a race discussion when they are focused on historical comparisons.

In any case, please continue those discussions over there, as the community here is within its rights to complain when things veer too far off-topic.
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 VeteranOP
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#202 ·
Dark clouds have been looming over the Indianapolis Motor Speedway all day, and word on the street is that a little drizzle even caught the NASCAR Race mid-action.
Daniel James8 Daniel James8 Member
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#203 ·
The Porsche Carrera Cup is about to kick off right now, and wouldn't you know it... not a single drop of rain in sight.
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#204 ·
stormybadger8 said:Lewis Hamilton 🙏

Props to him. No whining about a bad car or any of that usual drama. He just stepped up, owned the result, and didn't try to throw the Adrian Sutil boy under the bus. 👍

The kid has definitely grown up. 👍
I'll be rooting for him tomorrow. Hopefully he can grab at least a podium spot.🙂

Nico Rosberg mentioned that there’s a distinct possibility of rain moving in, and since we all know just how much that Mercedes-Benz excels when the track gets slick, perhaps there is still reason to hold onto some hope for a strong performance in this race.
Perhaps we might also allow ourselves to harbor a little hope that we’ll witness the Mercedes-Benz cars making a real breakthrough today—maybe even fighting their way all the way onto the podium? As for my own allegiances, I find myself rooting for both Kimi Räikkönen and Lewis Hamilton today!

The Best F1 driver As specified by Joseph Peterson8:
But what exactly are they?
To be perfectly honest, I feel that Fernando Alonso proved himself today to be nothing more than a complete disappointment, rather than the legend we were led to believe. Is this truly the raw material required to forge a champion? One cannot help but wonder if we are witnessing the foundational elements of greatness being laid down before our very eyes, or if it is merely a fleeting moment of brilliance that will ultimately fade when the pressure intensifies..

Is it even possible to say that Fernando Alonso is merely "championship material"? I find myself wondering if that description doesn't actually undersell him quite significantly. To call him such would be a simplification, wouldn't it? In my estimation, he isn't just someone capable of winning a title; he is a champion in his very essence.

stormybadger8 said:So what are they?
Honestly, Alonso proved today he’s just a total fraud, not championship material.
That guy is destined to be second best forever... seriously, every single time he actually has a real shot and the right tools, he completely chokes.

If he couldn't even grab a Pole this time, then he's absolutely hopeless...
If I remember correctly, you were just arguing a little while ago that Alonso is faster than Massa in qualifying by half a second... which I shut down with a mountain of data proving it's more like 0.350...

Now, just do the math: look at where Massa is—who nobody is helping through qualifying—compared to Vettel, and then imagine where Alonso would be if he were 0.300 to 0.500 slower...

Based on all the rumors and everything going on, it looks like Alonso might be getting his walking papers from Ferrari soon.
If this pattern of Massa being faster continues in the races and during qualifying in Singapore, then it’s obvious: LdM ate dirt, signed a deal with Kimi, and they're getting rid of Alonso.
Finally, Massa might actually get a real chance to show what he's worth compared to that Spanish politician.

In my estimation, the Ferrari was easily the second fastest car on the grid, and if nothing else, they really ought to have been putting up better times than Nico Hülkenberg; quite frankly, seeing them underperform like that felt like a genuine letdown. As for those top two spots? They were simply out of reach.

The Best F1 driver As I was reflecting on this matter, one couldn't help but wonder: what exactly is being said?
Based on all the rumors swirling around and how things seem to be unfolding, I am beginning to suspect that Fernando Alonso might soon find himself being pushed out of Ferrari.
If history repeats itself with a faster Felipe Massa—not just during the race, but during qualifying and the actual Grand Prix in Singapore—then it will be crystal clear that LdM has simply swallowed his pride, signed a deal with Kimi Räikkönen, and is effectively phasing Alonso out.
In such a scenario, Massa would finally be granted a legitimate opportunity to demonstrate his true worth in comparison to that Spanish politician.

I actually doubt that Alonso will be the one forced out; it is more likely that Massa is the one whose seat is currently on the line.

Raymond Anderson4 said:1. Team radio during Q3, specifically Alonso’s response when they asked about the slipstream:
"So you want me to let him pass? You guys are absolute geniuses."
Translation: So you want me to let him(Felipe) pass? you are really geniuses

Alonso's own clarification: "Here at Monza the slipstreaming strategy is often used: having a car three to four seconds ahead of you allows you to gain a few tenths and for that I must thank Felipe, especially Q3 When i came up behind Vergne ’ sa Toro Rosso and He waited for me. The radio messages have been misunderstood, as is often the case when you don’t experience something first hand: the word ‘genius’ refers to the fact that we could have got out before Nico Rosberg had gone by on his quick lap, but this should not raise any doubts about the impeccable job from the whole team." In other words, Alonso had to eat his words...

And to wrap things up, here is a snippet from Kimi's latest interview:

Reporter: Is this just bad luck at Spa, or will these brake issues continue to haunt you?
KR: Actually, I don't believe in luck...

Reporter: Then what do you believe in? Was it simply material fatigue?
KR: It just happened.

And honestly, how could you not love the guy!🤣
James Campbell6 James Campbell6 Member
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#205 ·
A little more acid?
Edward Howard2 Edward Howard2 Regular
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#206 ·
Some people here are whining about Massa out-qualifying Maestro... honestly, I’m feeling super optimistic about this one. I’m actually pretty stoked with how qualifying turned out. It’s way better having Massa and Hulk ahead of Maestro on the grid rather than Kimi and Lewis. Massa is gonna let him through immediately because he’s fighting for his contract right now. Even Maestro seems to be letting Massa stay ahead just to beef up his leverage in negotiations with Montezemolo. Hulk is also playing nice and letting Maestro pass since he's fighting for his own spot at Ferrari too. His buddy Mark Webber might pretend to hold him up for a second, but in the end, he’ll cave because he knows he can't dodge the pressure—Maestro will be right on his tail, and Webber will snap like a piece of popcorn once everything turns red in his rearview mirrors.
In the last six races, Maestro hasn't been this close to a win. The key is just to get past these guys quickly so Maestro doesn't pull away with a massive gap, leaving us watching the "Great Maestro" just finger-wagging at everyone after a few laps. 🙏

Let's go, Maestro! 🙏

Chasing that third title... 🙏

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P. S. Come back, Flavio 🙏
We're waiting for you... 🙏
shadowstag10 shadowstag10 Active Member
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#207 ·
Odds are sitting at 6 to 1 on Fernando Alonso, but honestly? The guy is easily the most serious threat to snatch that win right out from under Sebastian Vettel's nose ☕
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active Member
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#208 ·
shadowstag10 As I have previously observed:
Is it really any surprise that the odds on Fernando Alonso are sitting at 6 to 1? Even with those numbers, he remains the most serious contender to snatch that victory away from Sebastian Vettel. ☕

A gap of 0.3 seconds faster than Alonso on that lap? If we don't see rain or a mechanical failure from him, then I'm telling you, he doesn't stand a chance. 🙂
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 VeteranOP
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#209 ·
just some light drizzle, honestly kind of pathetic
Tyler Bennett5 Tyler Bennett5 Active Member
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#210 ·
But what if Felipe Massa already knows he’s been given the green light and decides to push back just a little?
We’ll find out today. If Felipe Massa decides to be difficult on the track, leaving the pit crew to
clean up the mess, then by Wednesday we'll know exactly who the new drivers at Ferrari will be.
On the other hand, if he acts like his usual self, he’s probably still holding onto hope that he’ll keep his seat.
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active Member
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#211 ·
Red Bull Racing updated the 5th, 6th, and 7th gears on both cars (no penalty applied) by Ted Kravitz

Does the rulebook actually work this way? It seems as though Red Bull Racing can change whatever they want while everyone else is left standing in the dust. 🤣

Helmut Marko and his crew keep lining the FIA’s pockets with cash, and in return, it appears the regulators are more than happy to hand them all sorts of unfair advantages.
ruggedfox28 ruggedfox28 Regular
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#212 ·
Indianapolis Motor Speedway: Looks like rain is hitting around 1:50 PM


🙂 🙂
ruggedfox28 ruggedfox28 Regular
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#213 ·
Some MILF on BBC 1 is reporting it 🙏

🙂 🙂
ruggedfox28 ruggedfox28 Regular
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#214 ·
Ross Brawn's got eyes in places they shouldn't be 🙏 🙏
ruggedfox28 ruggedfox28 Regular
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#215 ·
Well, now I’m just talking out of my ass too... 😎
Brandon Garcia9 Brandon Garcia9 Newcomer
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#216 ·
Is anyone streaming this?
David Anderson72 David Anderson72 Active Member
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#217 ·
ruggedfox28 said:
Indianapolis Motor Speedway: Looks like rain is hitting around 1:50 PM


🙂 🙂

🙂

Brandon Garcia9 said:Is anyone streaming this?

Pick one 🙂
http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?...89&part=sports
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 VeteranOP
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#218 ·
ruggedfox28 said:
Indianapolis Motor Speedway: Looks like rain is hitting around 1:50 PM


🙂 🙂

man, forget it, it's already pouring.

Starting on intermediates seems like a total toss-up at this point.
ruggedfox28 ruggedfox28 Regular
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#219 ·
It’s looking partly cloudy out here on the coast for now... not sure if we're gonna get rained on yet, but if it does, I'm definitely gonna post a little rant about this guy over at the BBC 🙏
Thomas Martin4 Thomas Martin4 Member
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#220 ·
A decent MILF... as long as she's ready to go 😬

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