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CNN Indianapolis Motor Speedway 09/08/2013

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jadeseal7 jadeseal7 Active Member
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#421 ·
slydrifter39 said:Me? The guy who needs to get his head checked is the one front and center in that podium footage, shoving some random flag that has absolutely nothing to do with the event.

Look at the parallel here—imagine if Marin Čilić wins a Grand Slam, and then some idiot starts waving a South Ossetian flag in his face during the trophy ceremony, blocking the view while he's getting his hardware. Would you call that pure stupidity, total brainlessness, or would you just praise the "legend" waving the flag?

I’ll say it again: get a grip. If you're going to lecture me on what constitutes being primitive or foolish, maybe take a moment to actually re-read your own post.
slydrifter39 slydrifter39 Active Member
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joined Sep 2003
#422 ·
Thank God. This subforum finally hit rock bottom, so I'm gonna stop wasting my time here. ☕
neonfalcon16 neonfalcon16 Regular
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joined Apr 2013
#423 ·
Just business as usual.
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#424 ·
jadeseal7 said:I’ll say it again: get a grip. If you're going to lecture me on what constitutes being primitive or foolish, maybe take a moment to actually re-read your own post.

Come now, please, waving flags isn't exactly some monumental pillar of human civilization, is it? The individual simply shared their perspective and provided a thoughtful argument to back it up.
William Bennett53 William Bennett53 Regular
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#425 ·
Give me a break... we all know covering up the podium isn't some grand strategy. Truth be told, most fans would probably try to sneak their own little logos in front of the lens if they knew which camera was going to be live.
jadeseal7 jadeseal7 Active Member
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#426 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Come now, please, waving flags isn't exactly some monumental pillar of human civilization, is it? The individual simply shared their perspective and provided a thoughtful argument to back it up.

Honestly, I don't see any issue with people waving whatever flags they want. We've seen plenty of Bulgarian and Romanian flags being waved before, and even the American ones—so what? It seems like he's just bothered by something else entirely and is throwing out these petty little comments instead.
jadeseal7 jadeseal7 Active Member
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#427 ·
William Bennett53 said:Give me a break... we all know covering up the podium isn't some grand strategy. Truth be told, most fans would probably try to sneak their own little logos in front of the lens if they knew which camera was going to be live.

It’s actually pretty funny—they managed to cover up the whole mess with a tarp. 🤣😍
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#428 ·
Podium breakdown:
Sebastian Vettel 0
Fernando Alonso and Mark Webber +3 🙏🙏🙏
Mark Webber -1

Another masterclass performance. Three incredible overtakes in head-to-head battles on track. 🙏🙏🙏

God, thank you for the Maestro. 🙏🙏🙏
analogpilot16 analogpilot16 Member
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#429 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Podium breakdown:
Sebastian Vettel 0
Fernando Alonso and Mark Webber +3 🙏🙏🙏
Mark Webber -1

Another masterclass performance. Three incredible overtakes in head-to-head battles on track. 🙏🙏🙏

God, thank you for the Maestro. 🙏🙏🙏

If those three moves by Alonso were a masterclass, then I honestly don't even know how to describe the thirty or so mistakes Hemofarm has piled up today...
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#430 ·
Even there, they fail to reach their peak performance:

Charles Pic
Valtteri Bottas
Esteban Gutierrez
Lewis Hamilton
Romain Grosjean

🤣
Raymond Thomas5 Raymond Thomas5 Newcomer
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#431 ·
We’re going to need a bit of luck—and maybe a few DNFs from Seb or something to win the championship

Fernando Alonso admitted he needs his Formula 1 title rival Sebastian Vettel to run into some trouble during the rest of the season
if he actually wants a shot at that 2013 championship.//
Maestro
velvetfalcon522 velvetfalcon522 Member
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#432 ·
If we aren't winning at football, I guess we're just experts at making excuses for F1 drivers—classic... A solid race, though we all knew who was taking the win from the jump. Honestly, I feel for Lewis Hamilton; I really wanted to see him crack the top 5 😢 but it doesn't matter, things will turn around in Singapore 😁
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#433 ·
Raymond Thomas5 said:We’re going to need a bit of luck—and maybe a few DNFs from Seb or something to win the championship

Fernando Alonso admitted he needs his Formula 1 title rival Sebastian Vettel to run into some trouble during the rest of the season
if he actually wants a shot at that 2013 championship.//
Maestro

Oh, please; winners stay winners, while those who can't actually beat their competition end up praying for someone else's misfortune.
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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#434 ·
analogpilot16 said:If those three moves by Alonso were a masterclass, then I honestly don't even know how to describe the thirty or so mistakes Hemofarm has piled up today...

Lewis Hamilton 🤷
In a car that gave him podiums for four races straight,
in the exact same car that our most dedicated forum regular claims is the biggest threat to his favorite driver and the whole team,
in a car where his own teammate finished over 20 seconds ahead of him.
So what? Even if he pulled off 330 overtakes, what good does that actually do him? What kind of success is that???
Unless, of course, you consider overtaking those two pathetic McLarens to be some kind of achievement.
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#435 ·
Amanda Kelly said:Lewis Hamilton 🤷
In a car that gave him podiums for four races straight,
in the exact same car that our most dedicated forum regular claims is the biggest threat to his favorite driver and the whole team,
in a car where his own teammate finished over 20 seconds ahead of him.
So what? Even if he pulled off 330 overtakes, what good does that actually do him? What kind of success is that???
Unless, of course, you consider overtaking those two pathetic McLarens to be some kind of achievement.

A significant portion of your argument holds weight, I suppose. It seems to me that Lewis Hamilton's race was fundamentally compromised by yesterday's chaotic turn of events during Q2, for which he himself bears at least partial responsibility—though he did step up and take the blame. However, what truly occupies my thoughts is how much satisfaction the fans of Fernando Alonso can actually derive from today's performance. Is it not possible that, within a Ferrari of this caliber, Nico Hulkenberg might have proven to be a far more formidable competitor than Fernando Alonso himself?
Raymond Thomas5 Raymond Thomas5 Newcomer
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#436 ·
Lewis Hamilton, Kimi Raikkonen, and Nico Hulkenberg were basically the only ones who made this race worth watching so far.
Great drives from those first two—even if the actual results were a total disaster.
Ferrari is once again paying a massive price for yesterday's sloppy mistakes.

Red Bull Racing and Sebastian Vettel certainly wouldn't have let that happen.
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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#437 ·
I guess the race at Indianapolis Motor Speedway finally settled all the debates once and for all.
Don't get me wrong, I’d love nothing more than to see an Alonso victory, but maybe this outcome is for the best. It would have been nice to grab a win before the season ends, but let's be honest—there's zero room left for false hope regarding the pursuit of the Formula 1 World Championship or any chance of Red Bull Racing and Sebastian Vettel actually pulling it off.

The team deserves credit for sweeping up everything in sight, but now they really need to buckle down, fix their mistakes, and address those glaring weaknesses.

Given how this Ferrari car has performed, winning on two consecutive tracks like this was only possible because they started on the front row. And even then, it was barely a guarantee. Since hitting the front row has felt like reaching for the moon all season long, I’m not even viewing today as a shock. This is just the reality of the current grid.
Maybe some other team will figure things out at the next race, but right now, Red Bull Racing and Ferrari are the ones to beat. That said, Ferrari really dropped the ball between Spain and Belgium.
Raymond Thomas5 Raymond Thomas5 Newcomer
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#438 ·
Amanda Kelly said:I guess the race at Indianapolis Motor Speedway finally settled all the debates once and for all.
Don't get me wrong, I’d love nothing more than to see an Alonso victory, but maybe this outcome is for the best. It would have been nice to grab a win before the season ends, but let's be honest—there's zero room left for false hope regarding the pursuit of the Formula 1 World Championship or any chance of Red Bull Racing and Sebastian Vettel actually pulling it off.

The team deserves credit for sweeping up everything in sight, but now they really need to buckle down, fix their mistakes, and address those glaring weaknesses.

Given how this Ferrari car has performed, winning on two consecutive tracks like this was only possible because they started on the front row. And even then, it was barely a guarantee. Since hitting the front row has felt like reaching for the moon all season long, I’m not even viewing today as a shock. This is just the reality of the current grid.
Maybe some other team will figure things out at the next race, but right now, Red Bull Racing and Ferrari are the ones to beat. That said, Ferrari really dropped the ball between Spain and Belgium.

It’s actually refreshing to see a Ferrari fan post something like this without immediately throwing Sebastian Vettel under the bus.
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#439 ·
Amanda Kelly said:I guess the race at Indianapolis Motor Speedway finally settled all the debates once and for all.
Don't get me wrong, I’d love nothing more than to see an Alonso victory, but maybe this outcome is for the best. It would have been nice to grab a win before the season ends, but let's be honest—there's zero room left for false hope regarding the pursuit of the Formula 1 World Championship or any chance of Red Bull Racing and Sebastian Vettel actually pulling it off.

The team deserves credit for sweeping up everything in sight, but now they really need to buckle down, fix their mistakes, and address those glaring weaknesses.

Given how this Ferrari car has performed, winning on two consecutive tracks like this was only possible because they started on the front row. And even then, it was barely a guarantee. Since hitting the front row has felt like reaching for the moon all season long, I’m not even viewing today as a shock. This is just the reality of the current grid.
Maybe some other team will figure things out at the next race, but right now, Red Bull Racing and Ferrari are the ones to beat. That said, Ferrari really dropped the ball between Spain and Belgium.

Raymond Thomas5 said:It’s actually refreshing to see a Ferrari fan post something like this without immediately throwing Sebastian Vettel under the bus.

👍
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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#440 ·
graniteharbor502 said:A significant portion of your argument holds weight, I suppose. It seems to me that Lewis Hamilton's race was fundamentally compromised by yesterday's chaotic turn of events during Q2, for which he himself bears at least partial responsibility—though he did step up and take the blame. However, what truly occupies my thoughts is how much satisfaction the fans of Fernando Alonso can actually derive from today's performance. Is it not possible that, within a Ferrari of this caliber, Nico Hulkenberg might have proven to be a far more formidable competitor than Fernando Alonso himself?

Look, that question applies to pretty much anyone. Period.
The only exception is Vettel + Red Bull, obviously.

Personally, I wouldn't swap out Alonso, but I’d dump Massu in a heartbeat. I’d bring in the best driver available right now, no hesitation.
I think a move like that would settle things and clear the air for the long term.
To be honest, it doesn't bother me—as a Ferrari fan—if you guys hate on Alonso, whether you have a reason or not.
What bothers me is seeing talent wasted when we could be squeezing every bit of potential out of this team and pushing it to a higher level.
Alonso isn't a magician.
If you bring in someone incredibly fast and mentally sharp, he'd be forced to squeeze out every last drop of sweat (if he hasn't already). That’s when we’d see where things actually stand. Massa isn't even a benchmark; you can't compare him.

Until then, all this bickering about FA is just noise.
That said, the Alonso lovers are way more justified than the haters, IMO. Honestly, the worship and the unbridled glorification is a lot more logical and positive than all that constant animosity.

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