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Kenneth Ross8 Kenneth Ross8 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Since we had our first "encounter" with supermoderator Michelle Evans when we were handed a red card back on July 18, 2013—not that we’re complaining about the penalty itself—we want to know:
1. Does a supermoderator just act like a ghost, waiting for regular moderators to ask for a red card, or is there actually an obligation to be impartial, look into the issue themselves, and act fairly?
2. Why has this same person never taken any action regarding Pets, despite being appointed as supermoderator on October 15, 2012, at 8:56 PM?
Nica said:Michelle Evans - Psychology, Health, pet, Gastronomy, Blog.

, yet there have been countless occasions where action was required?
The same person didn't even step in when the topic was raised: "It's high time you finally brought some order to the blue paw subforum!" which went completely ignored without any meaningful answers to the requests made!!

What exactly is the role of a supermoderator? When are they supposed to act? What are their specific duties?

Thanks for the answers!!

.
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2013
#2 ·
Kenneth Ross8 said:Since we had our first "encounter" with supermoderator Michelle Evans when we were handed a red card back on July 18, 2013—not that we’re complaining about the penalty itself—we want to know:
1. Does a supermoderator just act like a ghost, waiting for regular moderators to ask for a red card, or is there actually an obligation to be impartial, look into the issue themselves, and act fairly?
2. Why has this same person never taken any action regarding Pets, despite being appointed as supermoderator on October 15, 2012, at 8:56 PM?

, yet there have been countless occasions where action was required?
The same person didn't even step in when the topic was raised: "It's high time you finally brought some order to the blue paw subforum!" which went completely ignored without any meaningful answers to the requests made!!

What exactly is the role of a supermoderator? When are they supposed to act? What are their specific duties?

Thanks for the answers!!

.

It’s a bit of both, really. He definitely didn't get kicked out just because the moderators asked him to leave. That part isn't quite right...
Smod doesn't really moderate unless they happen to be managing the PDF files at the same time. In that sense, they act like a bit of a ghost... though they can step in if they feel it's necessary. I decided it was necessary here...

2. What’s the reasoning behind that... Never... He hasn't actually posted anything in the Pets section yet, even though his status was updated to supermoderator back on October 15, 2012...
...and wasn't there a need to question his actions several times over?
It didn't make any difference even when the topic was first introduced... It is high time you finally brought some order to the Blue Paw subforum... Which one is still waiting on those essential answers...

It seems like you might have cut off there...No, not really... The same...It says so right there in my profile...
I joined Smod on May 1, 2013, not October 15, 2012...
You’re clearly looking at the supermoderator list on that PDF, which hasn't been updated since then. That doesn't mean everyone listed was appointed back then... The roster has definitely changed and grown since that date, even if there isn't a visible edit log to show it...

That serves as my explanation for why I wasn't part of that discussion...

I’ll briefly touch upon your post from that other thread as well, since it relates directly to my work...
Kenneth Ross8 The user said:/cut/

Mrs. Michelle Evans, as a supermoderator, you surely saw our inquiry on... Announcements, suggestions, ideas, or calls to action... please share them here... When you responded to that thread, it was for entirely different reasons...

When the moderators and even the supermoderators aren't responding, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to start looking for answers elsewhere... I need some help... From Admin...
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I saw the inquiry, but I have no way of knowing if you actually received an answer unless you let me know the moderators aren't getting back to you. If you tell me, I can check in with them to see what's going on... I don't track every single thread or know which issues are being handled through private messages, though that doesn't mean I'm not familiar with the PDF issues in general...

You never actually reached out to me about this. Please feel free to do so next time...

Any other questions...
Roger Ortiz2 Roger Ortiz2 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2008
#3 ·
Michelle Evans said:It’s a bit of both, really. He definitely didn't get kicked out just because the moderators asked him to leave. That part isn't quite right...
Smod doesn't really moderate unless they happen to be managing the PDF files at the same time. In that sense, they act like a bit of a ghost... though they can step in if they feel it's necessary. I decided it was necessary here...

2. What’s the reasoning behind that... Never... He hasn't actually posted anything in the Pets section yet, even though his status was updated to supermoderator back on October 15, 2012...
...and wasn't there a need to question his actions several times over?
It didn't make any difference even when the topic was first introduced... It is high time you finally brought some order to the Blue Paw subforum... Which one is still waiting on those essential answers...

It seems like you might have cut off there...No, not really... The same...It says so right there in my profile...
I joined Smod on May 1, 2013, not October 15, 2012...
You’re clearly looking at the supermoderator list on that PDF, which hasn't been updated since then. That doesn't mean everyone listed was appointed back then... The roster has definitely changed and grown since that date, even if there isn't a visible edit log to show it...

That serves as my explanation for why I wasn't part of that discussion...

I’ll briefly touch upon your post from that other thread as well, since it relates directly to my work...

I saw the inquiry, but I have no way of knowing if you actually received an answer unless you let me know the moderators aren't getting back to you. If you tell me, I can check in with them to see what's going on... I don't track every single thread or know which issues are being handled through private messages, though that doesn't mean I'm not familiar with the PDF issues in general...

You never actually reached out to me about this. Please feel free to do so next time...

Any other questions...


Is there anything else that needs clearing up?

There is on my end, specifically an inquiry I filed in the appeals and sanctions section that hasn't received a response yet.
It concerns that claim of a staggering 75 instances regarding something being constant...
Does that mean you're constantly monitoring the entire forum, or are you specifically watching my posts, because about 50 of my attempts to use the report button yielded absolutely nothing except for deleted posts, so now...

The reporting system might be broken, considering I saw Cirduroy looking pretty baffled by the volume one day...
But since I posted this in the right place, I assume an answer to that part can be found here.
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2013
#4 ·
Roger Ortiz2 said:
Is there anything else that needs clearing up?

There is on my end, specifically an inquiry I filed in the appeals and sanctions section that hasn't received a response yet.
It concerns that claim of a staggering 75 instances regarding something being constant...
Does that mean you're constantly monitoring the entire forum, or are you specifically watching my posts, because about 50 of my attempts to use the report button yielded absolutely nothing except for deleted posts, so now...

The reporting system might be broken, considering I saw Cirduroy looking pretty baffled by the volume one day...
But since I posted this in the right place, I assume an answer to that part can be found here.

You will receive an answer on the specific thread where you originally posted the question. You haven't received it yet because by the time I was back online, the forum was essentially offline...

I don't see reports on PDFs where I am not a moderator. Reports you submit to the general board go to the moderators assigned to that specific PDF, not to me. If the moderators aren't reacting to something, there's usually a reason for it, and you can send them a private message to ask why they haven't responded. If they don't get back to you within a day, feel free to reach out to me and I'll check in with them. Or, you can just ask here.

I monitor your posts just like I monitor everyone else's. I don't comb through every single thread on the PDF looking for details. I only do that for the PDFs where I serve as a moderator...
Kenneth Ross8 Kenneth Ross8 NewcomerOP
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joined Aug 2013
#5 ·
Michelle Evans said:It’s a bit of both, really. He definitely didn't get kicked out just because the moderators asked him to leave. That part isn't quite right...
Smod doesn't really moderate unless they happen to be managing the PDF files at the same time. In that sense, they act like a bit of a ghost... though they can step in if they feel it's necessary. I decided it was necessary here...

2. What’s the reasoning behind that... Never... He hasn't actually posted anything in the Pets section yet, even though his status was updated to supermoderator back on October 15, 2012...
...and wasn't there a need to question his actions several times over?
It didn't make any difference even when the topic was first introduced... It is high time you finally brought some order to the Blue Paw subforum... Which one is still waiting on those essential answers...

It seems like you might have cut off there...No, not really... The same...It says so right there in my profile...
I joined Smod on May 1, 2013, not October 15, 2012...
You’re clearly looking at the supermoderator list on that PDF, which hasn't been updated since then. That doesn't mean everyone listed was appointed back then... The roster has definitely changed and grown since that date, even if there isn't a visible edit log to show it...

That serves as my explanation for why I wasn't part of that discussion...

I’ll briefly touch upon your post from that other thread as well, since it relates directly to my work...

I saw the inquiry, but I have no way of knowing if you actually received an answer unless you let me know the moderators aren't getting back to you. If you tell me, I can check in with them to see what's going on... I don't track every single thread or know which issues are being handled through private messages, though that doesn't mean I'm not familiar with the PDF issues in general...

You never actually reached out to me about this. Please feel free to do so next time...

Any other questions...

Let’s be real here. This intervention and assessment feel incredibly off. It’s been determined that what's needed is... And nobody noticed that the forum members are having major issues with the moderators? Please. It's more like the moderators are just straight-up ignoring everyone's questions! If you want an actual assessment, don't just drop a photo and walk away. You need to go through the thread and provide some context first.

Michelle Evans said:It’s a bit of both, really. He definitely didn't get kicked out just because the moderators asked him to leave. That part isn't quite right...
Smod doesn't really moderate unless they happen to be managing the PDF files at the same time. In that sense, they act like a bit of a ghost... though they can step in if they feel it's necessary. I decided it was necessary here...

2. What’s the reasoning behind that... Never... He hasn't actually posted anything in the Pets section yet, even though his status was updated to supermoderator back on October 15, 2012...
...and wasn't there a need to question his actions several times over?
It didn't make any difference even when the topic was first introduced... It is high time you finally brought some order to the Blue Paw subforum... Which one is still waiting on those essential answers...

It seems like you might have cut off there...No, not really... The same...It says so right there in my profile...
I joined Smod on May 1, 2013, not October 15, 2012...
You’re clearly looking at the supermoderator list on that PDF, which hasn't been updated since then. That doesn't mean everyone listed was appointed back then... The roster has definitely changed and grown since that date, even if there isn't a visible edit log to show it...

That serves as my explanation for why I wasn't part of that discussion...

I’ll briefly touch upon your post from that other thread as well, since it relates directly to my work...

I saw the inquiry, but I have no way of knowing if you actually received an answer unless you let me know the moderators aren't getting back to you. If you tell me, I can check in with them to see what's going on... I don't track every single thread or know which issues are being handled through private messages, though that doesn't mean I'm not familiar with the PDF issues in general...

You never actually reached out to me about this. Please feel free to do so next time...

Any other questions...

Let's hope for a better turnout this time around.

Michelle Evans said:It’s a bit of both, really. He definitely didn't get kicked out just because the moderators asked him to leave. That part isn't quite right...
Smod doesn't really moderate unless they happen to be managing the PDF files at the same time. In that sense, they act like a bit of a ghost... though they can step in if they feel it's necessary. I decided it was necessary here...

2. What’s the reasoning behind that... Never... He hasn't actually posted anything in the Pets section yet, even though his status was updated to supermoderator back on October 15, 2012...
...and wasn't there a need to question his actions several times over?
It didn't make any difference even when the topic was first introduced... It is high time you finally brought some order to the Blue Paw subforum... Which one is still waiting on those essential answers...

It seems like you might have cut off there...No, not really... The same...It says so right there in my profile...
I joined Smod on May 1, 2013, not October 15, 2012...
You’re clearly looking at the supermoderator list on that PDF, which hasn't been updated since then. That doesn't mean everyone listed was appointed back then... The roster has definitely changed and grown since that date, even if there isn't a visible edit log to show it...

That serves as my explanation for why I wasn't part of that discussion...

I’ll briefly touch upon your post from that other thread as well, since it relates directly to my work...

I saw the inquiry, but I have no way of knowing if you actually received an answer unless you let me know the moderators aren't getting back to you. If you tell me, I can check in with them to see what's going on... I don't track every single thread or know which issues are being handled through private messages, though that doesn't mean I'm not familiar with the PDF issues in general...

You never actually reached out to me about this. Please feel free to do so next time...

Any other questions...

The problem is simple: the moderators are letting arrogance, blatant disregard for other users, and total passivity slide. It’s unacceptable.
Still nothing. One topic. They opened an investigation because people filed complaints about their performance. The moderator still hasn't weighed in, and the admins haven't said a word either. Still, we're holding out hope they actually show up.

Michelle Evans said:It’s a bit of both, really. He definitely didn't get kicked out just because the moderators asked him to leave. That part isn't quite right...
Smod doesn't really moderate unless they happen to be managing the PDF files at the same time. In that sense, they act like a bit of a ghost... though they can step in if they feel it's necessary. I decided it was necessary here...

2. What’s the reasoning behind that... Never... He hasn't actually posted anything in the Pets section yet, even though his status was updated to supermoderator back on October 15, 2012...
...and wasn't there a need to question his actions several times over?
It didn't make any difference even when the topic was first introduced... It is high time you finally brought some order to the Blue Paw subforum... Which one is still waiting on those essential answers...

It seems like you might have cut off there...No, not really... The same...It says so right there in my profile...
I joined Smod on May 1, 2013, not October 15, 2012...
You’re clearly looking at the supermoderator list on that PDF, which hasn't been updated since then. That doesn't mean everyone listed was appointed back then... The roster has definitely changed and grown since that date, even if there isn't a visible edit log to show it...

That serves as my explanation for why I wasn't part of that discussion...

I’ll briefly touch upon your post from that other thread as well, since it relates directly to my work...

I saw the inquiry, but I have no way of knowing if you actually received an answer unless you let me know the moderators aren't getting back to you. If you tell me, I can check in with them to see what's going on... I don't track every single thread or know which issues are being handled through private messages, though that doesn't mean I'm not familiar with the PDF issues in general...

You never actually reached out to me about this. Please feel free to do so next time...

Any other questions...

Good to know we have that option moving forward!

Michelle Evans said:It’s a bit of both, really. He definitely didn't get kicked out just because the moderators asked him to leave. That part isn't quite right...
Smod doesn't really moderate unless they happen to be managing the PDF files at the same time. In that sense, they act like a bit of a ghost... though they can step in if they feel it's necessary. I decided it was necessary here...

2. What’s the reasoning behind that... Never... He hasn't actually posted anything in the Pets section yet, even though his status was updated to supermoderator back on October 15, 2012...
...and wasn't there a need to question his actions several times over?
It didn't make any difference even when the topic was first introduced... It is high time you finally brought some order to the Blue Paw subforum... Which one is still waiting on those essential answers...

It seems like you might have cut off there...No, not really... The same...It says so right there in my profile...
I joined Smod on May 1, 2013, not October 15, 2012...
You’re clearly looking at the supermoderator list on that PDF, which hasn't been updated since then. That doesn't mean everyone listed was appointed back then... The roster has definitely changed and grown since that date, even if there isn't a visible edit log to show it...

That serves as my explanation for why I wasn't part of that discussion...

I’ll briefly touch upon your post from that other thread as well, since it relates directly to my work...

I saw the inquiry, but I have no way of knowing if you actually received an answer unless you let me know the moderators aren't getting back to you. If you tell me, I can check in with them to see what's going on... I don't track every single thread or know which issues are being handled through private messages, though that doesn't mean I'm not familiar with the PDF issues in general...

You never actually reached out to me about this. Please feel free to do so next time...

Any other questions...

Yes!!
We sent our inquiry to moderator Snowcrowned first. She was polite enough to let us know she’s still getting caught up since she just got back.
Now we're just waiting on a response from moderator fermina-daza.
Kenneth Ross8 Kenneth Ross8 NewcomerOP
4 messages
joined Aug 2013
#6 ·
Michelle Evans said:You will receive an answer on the specific thread where you originally posted the question. You haven't received it yet because by the time I was back online, the forum was essentially offline...

I don't see reports on PDFs where I am not a moderator. Reports you submit to the general board go to the moderators assigned to that specific PDF, not to me. If the moderators aren't reacting to something, there's usually a reason for it, and you can send them a private message to ask why they haven't responded. If they don't get back to you within a day, feel free to reach out to me and I'll check in with them. Or, you can just ask here.

I monitor your posts just like I monitor everyone else's. I don't comb through every single thread on the PDF looking for details. I only do that for the PDFs where I serve as a moderator...

A moderator literally stated once that they should put in the effort to make it so that when you hit that little icon, every single admin sees the report.
That was the official word!

So, I guess the logical conclusion is that from now on, we have to file every single complaint through the PŽK!
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2013
#7 ·
Kenneth Ross8 said:Let’s be real here. This intervention and assessment feel incredibly off. It’s been determined that what's needed is... And nobody noticed that the forum members are having major issues with the moderators? Please. It's more like the moderators are just straight-up ignoring everyone's questions! If you want an actual assessment, don't just drop a photo and walk away. You need to go through the thread and provide some context first.

Let's hope for a better turnout this time around.

The problem is simple: the moderators are letting arrogance, blatant disregard for other users, and total passivity slide. It’s unacceptable.
Still nothing. One topic. They opened an investigation because people filed complaints about their performance. The moderator still hasn't weighed in, and the admins haven't said a word either. Still, we're holding out hope they actually show up.

Good to know we have that option moving forward!

Yes!!
We sent our inquiry to moderator Snowcrowned first. She was polite enough to let us know she’s still getting caught up since she just got back.
Now we're just waiting on a response from moderator fermina-daza.

"Users' questions." I see you using the plural there.
Are you acting as a spokesperson for everyone else here? There’s really no need for that; people can speak up for themselves if their questions aren't being answered. Just like you started your own threads because you wanted answers too.

Regardless, I’ve looked over this thread thoroughly.
Having issues with moderators doesn't give you a free pass to troll.

You received a warning the same day you posted that content and asked your question. In fact, your question was posted only three minutes before the post that got flagged.
It’s hard to claim your issue with the staff—the one you brought up on the PŽK forum—was already happening back then, given how much time has passed since the inquiry.

The problem is that the moderators allow arrogance, ignoring users, passivity...
So far, one thread has been opened to complain about their performance. A moderator hasn't even replied to it yet, and the admins haven't stepped in, though we're still hoping they will!

If you want, start a new thread so we can discuss whatever remains unclear.
Also, if you feel the admins haven't weighed in, feel free to ask them to do so.
There are!!
We first sent our inquiry to moderator Snowcrowned, who kindly told us she was still catching up since she just got back.
Now we're just waiting to hear from moderator fermina-daza.

Fine, then that still doesn't involve me. At least for now. My question is simply whether there's any confusion regarding what I wrote or my work in general, so we can clear it up. If everything is clear regarding why this thread was opened, then it can be closed.

Kenneth Ross8 said:A moderator literally stated once that they should put in the effort to make it so that when you hit that little icon, every single admin sees the report.
That was the official word!

So, I guess the logical conclusion is that from now on, we have to file every single complaint through the PŽK!

If that’s what a moderator said, then they were wrong. You shouldn't have to hunt for a post.
Trust me, I know exactly what lands in my inbox every single day...

Private message logs are visible to everyone. Post logs are not.

It’s interesting to think that from now on, we'll have to file every single complaint through the PŽK...

No. Not every single one.
You can always settle things via PM with the mods, or if you aren't satisfied, you can reach out to me. And of course, using the PŽK is an option, which clearly works...
Kenneth Ross8 Kenneth Ross8 NewcomerOP
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joined Aug 2013
#8 ·
Michelle Evans said:"Users' questions." I see you using the plural there.
Are you acting as a spokesperson for everyone else here? There’s really no need for that; people can speak up for themselves if their questions aren't being answered. Just like you started your own threads because you wanted answers too.

Regardless, I’ve looked over this thread thoroughly.
Having issues with moderators doesn't give you a free pass to troll.

You received a warning the same day you posted that content and asked your question. In fact, your question was posted only three minutes before the post that got flagged.
It’s hard to claim your issue with the staff—the one you brought up on the PŽK forum—was already happening back then, given how much time has passed since the inquiry.

The problem is that the moderators allow arrogance, ignoring users, passivity...
So far, one thread has been opened to complain about their performance. A moderator hasn't even replied to it yet, and the admins haven't stepped in, though we're still hoping they will!

If you want, start a new thread so we can discuss whatever remains unclear.
Also, if you feel the admins haven't weighed in, feel free to ask them to do so.
There are!!
We first sent our inquiry to moderator Snowcrowned, who kindly told us she was still catching up since she just got back.
Now we're just waiting to hear from moderator fermina-daza.

Fine, then that still doesn't involve me. At least for now. My question is simply whether there's any confusion regarding what I wrote or my work in general, so we can clear it up. If everything is clear regarding why this thread was opened, then it can be closed.

If that’s what a moderator said, then they were wrong. You shouldn't have to hunt for a post.
Trust me, I know exactly what lands in my inbox every single day...

Private message logs are visible to everyone. Post logs are not.

It’s interesting to think that from now on, we'll have to file every single complaint through the PŽK...

No. Not every single one.
You can always settle things via PM with the mods, or if you aren't satisfied, you can reach out to me. And of course, using the PŽK is an option, which clearly works...

The issue isn't whether we need a spokesperson; it's that we're all fed up. We've been asking ourselves: "Is there any point?" Motivation is gone because nothing seems worth the effort anymore.

Michelle Evans said:"Users' questions." I see you using the plural there.
Are you acting as a spokesperson for everyone else here? There’s really no need for that; people can speak up for themselves if their questions aren't being answered. Just like you started your own threads because you wanted answers too.

Regardless, I’ve looked over this thread thoroughly.
Having issues with moderators doesn't give you a free pass to troll.

You received a warning the same day you posted that content and asked your question. In fact, your question was posted only three minutes before the post that got flagged.
It’s hard to claim your issue with the staff—the one you brought up on the PŽK forum—was already happening back then, given how much time has passed since the inquiry.

The problem is that the moderators allow arrogance, ignoring users, passivity...
So far, one thread has been opened to complain about their performance. A moderator hasn't even replied to it yet, and the admins haven't stepped in, though we're still hoping they will!

If you want, start a new thread so we can discuss whatever remains unclear.
Also, if you feel the admins haven't weighed in, feel free to ask them to do so.
There are!!
We first sent our inquiry to moderator Snowcrowned, who kindly told us she was still catching up since she just got back.
Now we're just waiting to hear from moderator fermina-daza.

Fine, then that still doesn't involve me. At least for now. My question is simply whether there's any confusion regarding what I wrote or my work in general, so we can clear it up. If everything is clear regarding why this thread was opened, then it can be closed.

If that’s what a moderator said, then they were wrong. You shouldn't have to hunt for a post.
Trust me, I know exactly what lands in my inbox every single day...

Private message logs are visible to everyone. Post logs are not.

It’s interesting to think that from now on, we'll have to file every single complaint through the PŽK...

No. Not every single one.
You can always settle things via PM with the mods, or if you aren't satisfied, you can reach out to me. And of course, using the PŽK is an option, which clearly works...

How about you go through the thread right now?
Thanks!

Michelle Evans said:"Users' questions." I see you using the plural there.
Are you acting as a spokesperson for everyone else here? There’s really no need for that; people can speak up for themselves if their questions aren't being answered. Just like you started your own threads because you wanted answers too.

Regardless, I’ve looked over this thread thoroughly.
Having issues with moderators doesn't give you a free pass to troll.

You received a warning the same day you posted that content and asked your question. In fact, your question was posted only three minutes before the post that got flagged.
It’s hard to claim your issue with the staff—the one you brought up on the PŽK forum—was already happening back then, given how much time has passed since the inquiry.

The problem is that the moderators allow arrogance, ignoring users, passivity...
So far, one thread has been opened to complain about their performance. A moderator hasn't even replied to it yet, and the admins haven't stepped in, though we're still hoping they will!

If you want, start a new thread so we can discuss whatever remains unclear.
Also, if you feel the admins haven't weighed in, feel free to ask them to do so.
There are!!
We first sent our inquiry to moderator Snowcrowned, who kindly told us she was still catching up since she just got back.
Now we're just waiting to hear from moderator fermina-daza.

Fine, then that still doesn't involve me. At least for now. My question is simply whether there's any confusion regarding what I wrote or my work in general, so we can clear it up. If everything is clear regarding why this thread was opened, then it can be closed.

If that’s what a moderator said, then they were wrong. You shouldn't have to hunt for a post.
Trust me, I know exactly what lands in my inbox every single day...

Private message logs are visible to everyone. Post logs are not.

It’s interesting to think that from now on, we'll have to file every single complaint through the PŽK...

No. Not every single one.
You can always settle things via PM with the mods, or if you aren't satisfied, you can reach out to me. And of course, using the PŽK is an option, which clearly works...

We aren't arguing against the flag, nor are we debating whether it was justified!

Michelle Evans said:"Users' questions." I see you using the plural there.
Are you acting as a spokesperson for everyone else here? There’s really no need for that; people can speak up for themselves if their questions aren't being answered. Just like you started your own threads because you wanted answers too.

Regardless, I’ve looked over this thread thoroughly.
Having issues with moderators doesn't give you a free pass to troll.

You received a warning the same day you posted that content and asked your question. In fact, your question was posted only three minutes before the post that got flagged.
It’s hard to claim your issue with the staff—the one you brought up on the PŽK forum—was already happening back then, given how much time has passed since the inquiry.

The problem is that the moderators allow arrogance, ignoring users, passivity...
So far, one thread has been opened to complain about their performance. A moderator hasn't even replied to it yet, and the admins haven't stepped in, though we're still hoping they will!

If you want, start a new thread so we can discuss whatever remains unclear.
Also, if you feel the admins haven't weighed in, feel free to ask them to do so.
There are!!
We first sent our inquiry to moderator Snowcrowned, who kindly told us she was still catching up since she just got back.
Now we're just waiting to hear from moderator fermina-daza.

Fine, then that still doesn't involve me. At least for now. My question is simply whether there's any confusion regarding what I wrote or my work in general, so we can clear it up. If everything is clear regarding why this thread was opened, then it can be closed.

If that’s what a moderator said, then they were wrong. You shouldn't have to hunt for a post.
Trust me, I know exactly what lands in my inbox every single day...

Private message logs are visible to everyone. Post logs are not.

It’s interesting to think that from now on, we'll have to file every single complaint through the PŽK...

No. Not every single one.
You can always settle things via PM with the mods, or if you aren't satisfied, you can reach out to me. And of course, using the PŽK is an option, which clearly works...

I'd love to, as soon as we close these two current threads!

Michelle Evans said:"Users' questions." I see you using the plural there.
Are you acting as a spokesperson for everyone else here? There’s really no need for that; people can speak up for themselves if their questions aren't being answered. Just like you started your own threads because you wanted answers too.

Regardless, I’ve looked over this thread thoroughly.
Having issues with moderators doesn't give you a free pass to troll.

You received a warning the same day you posted that content and asked your question. In fact, your question was posted only three minutes before the post that got flagged.
It’s hard to claim your issue with the staff—the one you brought up on the PŽK forum—was already happening back then, given how much time has passed since the inquiry.

The problem is that the moderators allow arrogance, ignoring users, passivity...
So far, one thread has been opened to complain about their performance. A moderator hasn't even replied to it yet, and the admins haven't stepped in, though we're still hoping they will!

If you want, start a new thread so we can discuss whatever remains unclear.
Also, if you feel the admins haven't weighed in, feel free to ask them to do so.
There are!!
We first sent our inquiry to moderator Snowcrowned, who kindly told us she was still catching up since she just got back.
Now we're just waiting to hear from moderator fermina-daza.

Fine, then that still doesn't involve me. At least for now. My question is simply whether there's any confusion regarding what I wrote or my work in general, so we can clear it up. If everything is clear regarding why this thread was opened, then it can be closed.

If that’s what a moderator said, then they were wrong. You shouldn't have to hunt for a post.
Trust me, I know exactly what lands in my inbox every single day...

Private message logs are visible to everyone. Post logs are not.

It’s interesting to think that from now on, we'll have to file every single complaint through the PŽK...

No. Not every single one.
You can always settle things via PM with the mods, or if you aren't satisfied, you can reach out to me. And of course, using the PŽK is an option, which clearly works...

If questions or confusion arise later, a separate thread will be opened.

Let's just assume everything is clear for now!

Michelle Evans said:"Users' questions." I see you using the plural there.
Are you acting as a spokesperson for everyone else here? There’s really no need for that; people can speak up for themselves if their questions aren't being answered. Just like you started your own threads because you wanted answers too.

Regardless, I’ve looked over this thread thoroughly.
Having issues with moderators doesn't give you a free pass to troll.

You received a warning the same day you posted that content and asked your question. In fact, your question was posted only three minutes before the post that got flagged.
It’s hard to claim your issue with the staff—the one you brought up on the PŽK forum—was already happening back then, given how much time has passed since the inquiry.

The problem is that the moderators allow arrogance, ignoring users, passivity...
So far, one thread has been opened to complain about their performance. A moderator hasn't even replied to it yet, and the admins haven't stepped in, though we're still hoping they will!

If you want, start a new thread so we can discuss whatever remains unclear.
Also, if you feel the admins haven't weighed in, feel free to ask them to do so.
There are!!
We first sent our inquiry to moderator Snowcrowned, who kindly told us she was still catching up since she just got back.
Now we're just waiting to hear from moderator fermina-daza.

Fine, then that still doesn't involve me. At least for now. My question is simply whether there's any confusion regarding what I wrote or my work in general, so we can clear it up. If everything is clear regarding why this thread was opened, then it can be closed.

If that’s what a moderator said, then they were wrong. You shouldn't have to hunt for a post.
Trust me, I know exactly what lands in my inbox every single day...

Private message logs are visible to everyone. Post logs are not.

It’s interesting to think that from now on, we'll have to file every single complaint through the PŽK...

No. Not every single one.
You can always settle things via PM with the mods, or if you aren't satisfied, you can reach out to me. And of course, using the PŽK is an option, which clearly works...

All we can say is: thanks to the former moderator for the misinformation!!

Michelle Evans said:"Users' questions." I see you using the plural there.
Are you acting as a spokesperson for everyone else here? There’s really no need for that; people can speak up for themselves if their questions aren't being answered. Just like you started your own threads because you wanted answers too.

Regardless, I’ve looked over this thread thoroughly.
Having issues with moderators doesn't give you a free pass to troll.

You received a warning the same day you posted that content and asked your question. In fact, your question was posted only three minutes before the post that got flagged.
It’s hard to claim your issue with the staff—the one you brought up on the PŽK forum—was already happening back then, given how much time has passed since the inquiry.

The problem is that the moderators allow arrogance, ignoring users, passivity...
So far, one thread has been opened to complain about their performance. A moderator hasn't even replied to it yet, and the admins haven't stepped in, though we're still hoping they will!

If you want, start a new thread so we can discuss whatever remains unclear.
Also, if you feel the admins haven't weighed in, feel free to ask them to do so.
There are!!
We first sent our inquiry to moderator Snowcrowned, who kindly told us she was still catching up since she just got back.
Now we're just waiting to hear from moderator fermina-daza.

Fine, then that still doesn't involve me. At least for now. My question is simply whether there's any confusion regarding what I wrote or my work in general, so we can clear it up. If everything is clear regarding why this thread was opened, then it can be closed.

If that’s what a moderator said, then they were wrong. You shouldn't have to hunt for a post.
Trust me, I know exactly what lands in my inbox every single day...

Private message logs are visible to everyone. Post logs are not.

It’s interesting to think that from now on, we'll have to file every single complaint through the PŽK...

No. Not every single one.
You can always settle things via PM with the mods, or if you aren't satisfied, you can reach out to me. And of course, using the PŽK is an option, which clearly works...

Hopefully, fermina-daza, Snowcrowned, Chocolate puma, and Corduroy won't follow the lead of the previous moderators—or even the current passive ones.
And that they'll give it their all to restore the old reputation of the PDF ''PŠ''.

Michelle Evans, thanks for the thorough answers!
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#9 ·
Kenneth Ross8 said:The issue isn't whether we need a spokesperson; it's that we're all fed up. We've been asking ourselves: "Is there any point?" Motivation is gone because nothing seems worth the effort anymore.

How about you go through the thread right now?
Thanks!

We aren't arguing against the flag, nor are we debating whether it was justified!

I'd love to, as soon as we close these two current threads!

If questions or confusion arise later, a separate thread will be opened.

Let's just assume everything is clear for now!

All we can say is: thanks to the former moderator for the misinformation!!

Hopefully, fermina-daza, Snowcrowned, Chocolate puma, and Corduroy won't follow the lead of the previous moderators—or even the current passive ones.
And that they'll give it their all to restore the old reputation of the PDF ''PŠ''.

Michelle Evans, thanks for the thorough answers!

If you're referring to the locked notice about the exhibition—since people are discussing it right now—it will be unlocked...

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