John Smith and stalking

driftingorca16 said:Miller just got handed an activist assignment.

Between the constant stalking, the flame wars, and jumping down people's throats while tossing out yellow cards, basically Smith is just a cyberbully, along with a few other sidekicks like Judah and whoever else.
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I mean, what else can you really expect from someone who thinks out of pure jealousy people are criticizing Tompkins and others funded by foreign power centers? Pure jealousy, give me a break... 🙏

Rachel Richardson said:One reason I didn't call this out sooner is specifically because we're in a chat thread.
Chats are essentially sub-threads where moderation tends to be a bit more relaxed—there's a sense that you can push boundaries a little more.
In short, you just hope the person will eventually take the hint and stop.
But you're a moderator—how can you be openly violating the very forum rules you're supposed to enforce?

https://www.example-us-forum.com/showthread.php?t=818054

2. violation of general civilized norms
4. flame wars
13. harassment of other users

Please, just stop.
I’d also suggest adding

10. doxxing / revealing private information of other users
11. trolling (posting mocking or offensive messages intended to annoy others or provoke arguments...)

Stalking people and writing "reports" on them isn't normal behavior—it goes against basic social decency.

Furthermore, repeatedly bringing up my profession and my family is far from acceptable conduct.

Because you hold a moderator position, you should be setting the standard—not abusing your status to harass other members of this community...

What "data" about you or your family are we even talking about here? An imaginary career, a wife, and two or three kids?
You're capable of churning out a hundred posts in a single hour, posting all day, every day—so now suddenly it's "offensive" when someone calls you out on it?
Civilized norms? Persecution? Give me a break, go catch some Pokémon or something...

Rachel Richardson said:There is such a thing as acceptable behavior—and then there is the kind that simply isn't.
If someone asks you to stop because they find it bothersome—well, it would be only decent to actually do it.

I am a moderator...
It isn't your place to pass judgment on who is contributing what to this forum.

Commenting on other people's posts this way—or obsessively counting them—is frankly beneath the position you hold.

Look, I'll make a request of my own: take a week off from the forum and spend some quality time with your wife and kids. I imagine that won't be too hard for you, since your wife is lovely and the children clearly inherited their intelligence from their mother.

Christian Myers said:Signature 👍

This kind of behavior is honestly unacceptable—it's just shameful. We need to stand up for Wikipedia and everyone else dealing with online harassment. I can personally vouch for what Johnson & Co. puts people through, too—I’ve had him following my posts with obnoxious, borderline insulting comments for a while now, though I eventually just hit the ignore button. 🙂

The only person I've ever actually ignored on this forum is bluecyclist64; the guy literally demeans and insults you in every single post he makes.
And the moderation team hasn't even handed him a yellow card. If I were typing like bluecyclist64, I would have been hit with a permanent ban ages ago. The fact that he gets away with it (along with a few others like Kiss_me) would be a great topic for discussion if they’d actually let us talk about it.

Well, feel free to take a page out of the book of that battle-ready penguin; honestly, using the ignore function is a wonderful option if you want some peace.👍

bluecyclist64 said:Well, feel free to take a page out of the book of that battle-ready penguin; honestly, using the ignore function is a wonderful option if you want some peace.👍

bluecyclist64, I hold you in such high regard. 🙂
I find myself inclined to accept you, fully embracing the sheer splendor of your intellect and that unmistakable, brilliant spark you possess. 🙂

lonetrucker4 said:The issue on the History subforum is whether people actually view their forum activity this way. They can't seem to grasp that some folks genuinely care about understanding human history through objective reality—even if hitting that level of precision in the humanities is impossible compared to hard sciences, since we’re stuck living through the timeline as it turns from present to past. It's about studying sources, critiquing them, and figuring out facts and connections, which is exactly what's laid out in the rule pdf history. There’s even a specific topic about Methods and criteria in history (historical science).

I keep my role as a regular user separate from being a moderator. Wikipediaer gets a penalty when they break the rules. I try to be lenient, maybe even a bit slow on the trigger before I decide to hand out a red card; I only get tough when people start denying the crimes of the Nazi era, even indirectly. (Wikipediaer, however, complains every single time and drags it into a debate—which then pulls in others and moves the drama from one subforum to another). Just look at the "yellow card appeal" thread, specifically Wikipediaer's appeal in post #369 and the mess that followed; they got flagged for repeatedly pushing claims that falsify sources and for starting massive off-topic tangents. They never admit they're wrong, so it just triggers endless loops of the same arguments.

That said, these occasional comments about his hyper-productivity were made as a fellow user, not related to any penalties or threats. I respect the hustle, but I'm pointing out that overproducing like this is killing the quality. As a peer, I'm telling him his approach is flawed. Sometimes you need to step back, think, read actual books, and spend two hours researching instead of cranking out 50 posts.

For instance, don't go diving into amateur math regarding the 1931 population counts when the census was already done and the demographics have been settled and discussed in this thread a dozen times. Read carefully, then double-check before hitting send (see my second principle), otherwise you'll end up misreading a "this guy is wrong" as "this guy is right," reacting instantly, and clogging the thread with nonsense. (Both happened yesterday.)

Besides, he claimed to be an IT expert posting from his work computer during breaks. Given how many posts he pumps out, that sounds pretty sketchy. That's where the irony comes in. (If it's true, we should be even more impressed by his stamina, but the point remains: too much quantity ruins the quality.)

Like you, for example. And then there's that one forum user, bluecyclist64, who keeps getting unbanned after being permabanned. Constant cycle.

gentlestag15 said:The only person I've ever actually ignored on this forum is bluecyclist64; the guy literally demeans and insults you in every single post he makes.
And the moderation team hasn't even handed him a yellow card. If I were typing like bluecyclist64, I would have been hit with a permanent ban ages ago. The fact that he gets away with it (along with a few others like Kiss_me) would be a great topic for discussion if they’d actually let us talk about it.

Look, Judolina is just playing in a different league... can't really blame you for being left in the dust. ☕

So you've all gathered here, and I'm fairly certain we're all just dying to settle once and for all whose old man is tougher. 🍿

Jeremy Johnson18 said:Honestly, watching you jump on Wikipedia like that, Johnson, is just sad. Even Smith's doing it.
Seriously, you never miss an opportunity to chime in on threads like this, even though your total contribution is basically zero since nobody ever asked for your opinion.

So, why does an "intellectual" like you have nothing better to do than hunt people down and harass them on a forum?
I’d ask what kind of idiot lets you act like this, but honestly, it's pretty obvious.

Look, get a life, go outside, or just drop dead for all I care—but change your routine, because this is getting exhausting.

Christian Myers said:Signature 👍

This kind of behavior is honestly unacceptable—it's just shameful. We need to stand up for Wikipedia and everyone else dealing with online harassment. I can personally vouch for what Johnson & Co. puts people through, too—I’ve had him following my posts with obnoxious, borderline insulting comments for a while now, though I eventually just hit the ignore button. 🙂

Lawrence Booth2 said:Everything you just listed, Rachel Richardson, is on my ignore list... I noticed that bluecyclist64 acts like a total forum troll, so I went ahead and blocked him preemptively
as for Smith—I actually requested a block there because I didn't want to end up in any spaces he moderates

That was really the moment it clicked for me—seeing what it's like for teenagers online when an entire generation decides to hunt them down and harass them during such a sensitive time in their lives

Up until then, I honestly just thought the whole thing was funny and irrelevant

gentlestag15 said:The only person I've ever actually ignored on this forum is bluecyclist64; the guy literally demeans and insults you in every single post he makes.
And the moderation team hasn't even handed him a yellow card. If I were typing like bluecyclist64, I would have been hit with a permanent ban ages ago. The fact that he gets away with it (along with a few others like Kiss_me) would be a great topic for discussion if they’d actually let us talk about it.

Rachel Turner2 said:Like you, for example. And then there's that one forum user, bluecyclist64, who keeps getting unbanned after being permabanned. Constant cycle.

Thanks 🙂

I usually just tune out Judolina; the guy can't string a sentence together without hurling insults at someone. Talking to him is about as productive as trying to chat with a broken generator that only spits out random profanity.
A bot.

Arthur Smith15 falls into much the same category—just without the swearing.

Ali Oštrić is a moderator 🤦

Here is how cyberbullying is defined:

The use of information and communication technologies to engage in intentional, repeated, and hostile behavior by an individual or group, with the specific intent to cause harm to others.

https://www.cnn.com/cyberbullying-definition...4-0242ac140017

Flaming:

Flaming refers to antagonistic and insulting interactions on internet forums, chats, mailing lists, etc., characterized by the use of hostile language and personal attacks.

http://www.wikipedia.org/internet-forum/

I couldn't find a solid definition for stalking in American English, but there's a good one in English:

Cyberstalking is the use of the Internet or other electronic means to stalk or harass an individual, group, or organization. This may include false accusations, defamation, slander, and libel. It may also involve monitoring, identity theft, threats, vandalism, solicitation for sex, or the gathering of information intended to threaten, embarrass, or harass.

Both behaviors are driven by a desire to control, intimidate, or influence a victim.

@Smith, there’s nothing wrong with you studying hedgehogs, squirrels, or any other kind of animal.
However, people should have a bit more privacy.

What you’re doing is pathetic, so I’m asking you once more to stop.
If you have issues with something I’ve posted, I am more than happy to explain my reasoning.
Even in kindergarten, this kind of behavior is frowned upon.
And look at how old you are.

Jeremy Johnson18 said:Honestly, watching you jump on Wikipedia like that, Johnson, is just sad. Even Smith's doing it.
Seriously, you never miss an opportunity to chime in on threads like this, even though your total contribution is basically zero since nobody ever asked for your opinion.

So, why does an "intellectual" like you have nothing better to do than hunt people down and harass them on a forum?
I’d ask what kind of idiot lets you act like this, but honestly, it's pretty obvious.

Look, get a life, go outside, or just drop dead for all I care—but change your routine, because this is getting exhausting.

"Non-existent," "drop dead."
What a stellar vocabulary for a moderator.

Like I already told you, just end it all, you absolute buzzkill; your moderation is boring enough, but your commenting is just next-level awful.

Just take a look at those open PZK threads from the last few years.
Who’s always front and center in them?
Hint: the main spammer and troll.

Full support goes out to anyone who dares to "oppose" him.

Carl Moore8 said:"Non-existent," "drop dead."
What a stellar vocabulary for a moderator.

Like I already told you, just end it all, you absolute buzzkill; your moderation is boring enough, but your commenting is just next-level awful.

Just take a look at those open PZK threads from the last few years.
Who’s always front and center in them?
Hint: the main spammer and troll.

Full support goes out to anyone who dares to "oppose" him.

It doesn't matter who they are, as long as there's more of them. 🤣

Rachel Richardson said:Thanks 🙂

I usually just tune out Judolina; the guy can't string a sentence together without hurling insults at someone. Talking to him is about as productive as trying to chat with a broken generator that only spits out random profanity.
A bot.

Arthur Smith15 falls into much the same category—just without the swearing.

Ali Oštrić is a moderator 🤦

Here is how cyberbullying is defined:

The use of information and communication technologies to engage in intentional, repeated, and hostile behavior by an individual or group, with the specific intent to cause harm to others.

https://www.cnn.com/cyberbullying-definition...4-0242ac140017

Flaming:

Flaming refers to antagonistic and insulting interactions on internet forums, chats, mailing lists, etc., characterized by the use of hostile language and personal attacks.

http://www.wikipedia.org/internet-forum/

I couldn't find a solid definition for stalking in American English, but there's a good one in English:

Cyberstalking is the use of the Internet or other electronic means to stalk or harass an individual, group, or organization. This may include false accusations, defamation, slander, and libel. It may also involve monitoring, identity theft, threats, vandalism, solicitation for sex, or the gathering of information intended to threaten, embarrass, or harass.

Both behaviors are driven by a desire to control, intimidate, or influence a victim.

@Smith, there’s nothing wrong with you studying hedgehogs, squirrels, or any other kind of animal.
However, people should have a bit more privacy.

What you’re doing is pathetic, so I’m asking you once more to stop.
If you have issues with something I’ve posted, I am more than happy to explain my reasoning.
Even in kindergarten, this kind of behavior is frowned upon.
And look at how old you are.

So then what on earth is this supposed to be? 🤷

Jeremy Johnson18 said:It doesn't matter who they are, as long as there's more of them. 🤣

Quantity over quality 🤣 🤦
—it's just my suspicion that this one might be a clone too, so 🥳

Steven Grant2 said:So you've all gathered here, and I'm fairly certain we're all just dying to settle once and for all whose old man is tougher. 🍿

Soros is the big player—at least until he kicks the bucket... 🙂

Morgan Rodriguez57 said:I mean, what else can you really expect from someone who thinks out of pure jealousy people are criticizing Tompkins and others funded by foreign power centers? Pure jealousy, give me a break... 🙏

Well, that was polite of you.
I think you got your wires crossed here. I never actually commented on how Tompkins gets his funding, nor did I say anything about those other guys facing similar scrutiny.

Go ahead and find me a single post where I said something like that, or were you actually talking about Smith?

@Smith deserves a much more detailed breakdown than this, and honestly, I just don't have the bandwidth for it right now.

gentlestag15 said:The only person I've ever actually ignored on this forum is bluecyclist64; the guy literally demeans and insults you in every single post he makes.
And the moderation team hasn't even handed him a yellow card. If I were typing like bluecyclist64, I would have been hit with a permanent ban ages ago. The fact that he gets away with it (along with a few others like Kiss_me) would be a great topic for discussion if they’d actually let us talk about it.

Actually, Judolin's picked up plenty of cards. He was even banned for a day recently. Some guys know when to chill after a slap on the wrist, but others? They just don't know how to shut up.

Roger Castillo9 said:So then what on earth is this supposed to be? 🤷

For those of you too lazy to actually click a link, here’s what Rachel Richardson was saying about me:

"This guy's father is his dad, check out the CV
The guy (lonetrucker4) is just some failed History student despite having a high-ranking dad at the KPH.
He couldn't even finish college.
And he looks like Jabba the Hutt
Just Google him, look how he listed his name...
Total bum."

Funny logic, right? Just because my old man is a pro historian who spent basically his whole career at the Institute for Labor Movement History without ever holding a big management title, I'm suddenly "high-ranking at the KPH."

Man, these little historical brawls of ours just keep spilling over onto here... :-)

Alright, Rachel Richardson, since you’re being so damn polite about it, I promise—this is the last time—I won't bring up your post count ever again, nor will I mention your high-paying, exhausting career. As far as I can remember, I haven't even brought up your wife or kids.

So, one last time: 50 posts between 11:58 PM yesterday and 4:57 PM today.

And look, do me a favor and actually think about my suggestions: trade quantity for quality, try reading some actual literature instead of just recycling those same few books you finished years ago, admit when you're wrong once in a while, and try to grasp that some people are actually attempting to study history objectively...

And honestly, I don't care about myself, but for the love of my late father, leave him out of this. You didn't even bother to read the obituary you linked to.

Oh, and hey, maybe put a bit more effort into your analogies. Jabba the Hutt!? Not funny, man, I don't look anything like him. Someone compared me to Grizzly Adams once—there's definitely more resemblance there, especially now that I've aged and let myself go!

How these little Pokémon jump out at you 😁 😁

Jeremy Johnson18 said:Honestly, watching you jump on Wikipedia like that, Johnson, is just sad. Even Smith's doing it.
Seriously, you never miss an opportunity to chime in on threads like this, even though your total contribution is basically zero since nobody ever asked for your opinion.

So, why does an "intellectual" like you have nothing better to do than hunt people down and harass them on a forum?
I’d ask what kind of idiot lets you act like this, but honestly, it's pretty obvious.

Look, get a life, go outside, or just drop dead for all I care—but change your routine, because this is getting exhausting.

And who exactly asked you anything? It's hard to imagine anyone writing something more mindless than that... As for the pathetic nonsense and the talk of dropping dead—keep that to yourself. It's Friday; you'll have plenty to do. Why don't you share those thoughts with your buddy? You two can pollute this forum together, pasting garbage from some bullshit generator, drawing maps in Paint, lying about your private lives, and hypocritically whining about the local politics... 😁

Carl Moore8 said:"Non-existent," "drop dead."
What a stellar vocabulary for a moderator.

Like I already told you, just end it all, you absolute buzzkill; your moderation is boring enough, but your commenting is just next-level awful.

Just take a look at those open PZK threads from the last few years.
Who’s always front and center in them?
Hint: the main spammer and troll.

Full support goes out to anyone who dares to "oppose" him.

Moderator? Hjao Quote 😁

Rachel Richardson said:Dear bluecyclist64, from someone whose entire family lives on this site—including my wife and potentially some descendants, though I haven't quite tracked them down yet🍿—I really wasn't expecting anything else from you.

It’s flattering that you view me as a role model, even if you're already a grandfather who hopes his grandkids might turn out like me.
However, if you feel the need to mock someone, please just use private messages.
The point of moderation is to protect users from stalkers and those obsessed with post counts🤣. The purpose of your presence here isn't to sour the experience for others—people whom you supposedly adore as much as they adore you😍—or to drive them away from this community.
If you actually put in the effort, you could even stop being so toxic🧐

Look, your last post was—if I recall correctly, the first one in at least a decade🤔—without a single explicit insult😲
I would normally worry about your health, but considering your age and the sheer level of intelligence you manage to display, I know there's no need.😍

Now, it would be wonderful if you could follow your own advice: find a life of your own and leave people alone when they clearly don't care about you even half as much as you think they do.🍿
I am certain you are capable of grasping such a complex concept; there is no need to question your intellect, is there, dearauthor? 😍

... coming from someone who relentlessly hammers away at the keyboard—or rather, hammers away at trash...

lonetrucker4 said:Actually, Judolin's picked up plenty of cards. He was even banned for a day recently. Some guys know when to chill after a slap on the wrist, but others? They just don't know how to shut up.

Yeah, he's been on a timeout a few times, so they've already forgiven him for the same thing 🍿
He's a pretty unpleasant bot.

It would be good to mention that he needs to stop; this definitely isn't an acceptable way to express oneself 👍

Arthur Smith15 said:How these little Pokémon jump out at you 😁 😁

And who exactly asked you anything? It's hard to imagine anyone writing something more mindless than that... As for the pathetic nonsense and the talk of dropping dead—keep that to yourself. It's Friday; you'll have plenty to do. Why don't you share those thoughts with your buddy? You two can pollute this forum together, pasting garbage from some bullshit generator, drawing maps in Paint, lying about your private lives, and hypocritically whining about the local politics... 😁

Moderator? Hjao Quote 😁

... coming from someone who relentlessly hammers away at the keyboard—or rather, hammers away at trash...

I constantly point out that people's posts are perfect reflections of themselves 😍
If he could just grasp such a simple sentence, where would we be? 🙂