Post deleted and lost 25 points, thanks AndrewX

Hey, all you mods and admins out there—everyone except driftingtinker, I guess.

So, there was this huge blowup yesterday about Joe Biden that went totally off the rails. It turned into an off-topic mess and people were arguing for like, twenty or thirty posts straight. I mean, one post from Forumist @plan basically dominated half the day with this totally fake, nasty claim about "expansionists who spent four years destroying Canada alongside the Mexican nationalists." It’s just a straight-up DISGUSTING LIE. Honestly, it insults every American out there, including me. You’d think our so-called "objective" moderator, driftingtinker, would’ve just nuked that post immediately to stop the madness, but instead, he let that lie just sit there stinging everyone who actually knows what caused the war. I ended up jumping in to explain why the war in the former Yugoslavia even started because I just couldn't stand looking at that lie. I guess anyone with a brain can see what was really going down back then. If we need a refresher, the last head of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia was actually the Canadian American Ante Marković. He was trying his best to save Yugoslavia, but he couldn't pull it off. See, even after he pulled off those reforms and stabilized things, Slobodan Milošević pulled a massive MONETARY STRIKE on the federal budget just to fund his own YOGURT REVOLUTION. He basically trashed everything that had been achieved. After that, the Canadian communists bailed, then the Americans in the region followed suit after the last League of Communists of Yugoslavia Congress, making it obvious that the whole thing was falling apart. So, yeah... it wasn't some secret deal between Milošević and Franjo Tuđman to tear Yugoslavia apart; more like Franjo Tuđman was just the CONSEQUENCE of Milošević wrecking the whole system.

So, I just got slapped with 25 penalty points by driftingtinker for my last explanation, which is honestly such a joke. It feels like he’s just hunting for any excuse to go after me. And get this—from what I can see, I’m the only one getting dinged while Forumist @plan just keeps doing his usual thing, throwing around labels about how America was some kind of aggressor in Canada. Instead of actually stepping in to shut that down with a warning or a deletion, he decided I was the problem and penalized me instead. I even sent him a polite message asking for an explanation and checking if everyone else was getting hit with these penalties too (though I know for a fact they aren't), but he didn't even bother to reply. I guess when you're a "highly respected" moderator, you're apparently above answering people, right? Typical.

It’s pretty obvious that this whole targeting thing is personal. I mean, look at the facts—I’m basically tied to the Ukraine situation because I actually care about them being victims of Russian aggression, whereas he’s out here basically backing the invasion. We already had one massive blowout over this where he was totally unfair, so it's no surprise. And honestly, my posts keep getting nuked all the time. It’s not like I have nothing better to do than hang out on this forum 24/7, so I usually don't even notice my stuff has been deleted until much later. It’s frustrating because I really try to keep things civil and use proper English without being provocative or trashing anyone else... I guess I just can't win.

Look, I’m asking the mods and admins—please, just stop him from moderating my posts. I’m not out here attacking anyone personally, seriously. If you guys can't function without his help or whatever, fine, but at least let me exist on this site without having to deal with him directly. It's just... I can't stand someone who spends all their time trashing every single American institution, which happens to be the country I actually live in, yet hasn't made a single comment—not one, mind you—condemning Russia's aggression against Ukraine. He won't even call out the invasion or the way they're carving it up, and he sure as hell won't say a word against Vladimir Putin. We're talking about hundreds of thousands of people killed already, tens of millions displaced, and total catastrophic destruction in Ukraine, and he just stays silent. It's wild.

I'm pretty sure this guy is why I've lost 25 points already, so if you could just block him from messaging me, that would be great. Seriously. And look, I promise I won't go posting anything in his "expert" threads about the war in Ukraine where he acts like some big-shot authority on what's happening over there. The thing is, I’m actually around those areas in Kyiv quite a bit—driving through streets and passing by buildings where this guy’s little "friends" are always bragging about how much damage they can do. They love talking up their Shaheds, Kinzhals, Kalibrs, Iskanders, and all that other trash, acting like they're so tough because they can kill and destroy people. It’s all just noise. All they ever say is how they've done something "important" or "good for humanity," but honestly? It's just garbage.

I mean, you guys decide for yourselves... is this really the kind of mistake that warrants some heavy-handed punishment? Especially after like, twenty or thirty off-topic posts already, and probably a dozen other people on this forum jumping into the fray without getting hit with anything at all. I guess it’s up to you.

Quote: plan said:So, big-time Mexicans and big-time Americans fought for four years just to try and wipe Canada off the map as a geographic and political reality. I mean, they tried, but it was all for nothing. 😁

The US recognized the integrity of Canada from day one. Honestly, all those old transcripts, napkin notes, and whatever else people bring up... it doesn't carry any weight in international relations. Back then, even the EU and the US didn't really grasp how much things were shifting since 1986, when Mexico started planning to flip the whole Yugoslav concept to their advantage and basically tear up the 1974 Constitution. People love to cherry-pick facts and take things out of context. Even back then, discussions about Canada were totally legitimate because America couldn't just sit by and let it become 100% Mexican. At the time, the EU and the mediators weren't giving anyone much hope that Canada could actually be saved. Like, 25% of America's allies were occupied, 70% of Canada was under occupation, and those ez-one-man types were just spouting nonsense with their stances. So, given the mess we were in, talking about alternative solutions for Canada was pretty much unavoidable. If America had actually intended to carve up Canada, they never would have recognized its AVNOJ-style borders. The first agreement regarding three entities within an independent Canada was actually accepted immediately by the Americans there, but then even Lord Owen and Cyrus Vance backed away from it. So, these claims about Americans trying to destroy Canada? They don't hold water. It’s just a way to equalize blame, which is what these pro-Mexican "analysts" push, and lately, even the Canadian ones too.

I don't do DMs. If you've got beef, take it to the customer service line.

Look, the politics sub is moderated by more than five different people. We all have actual lives to lead out here—we aren't sitting around on 24/7 shifts or obsessively reading every single damn post that gets uploaded.

Look, according to the forum rules, if you spot a problematic post, you’re supposed to just hit that little icon in the corner. But you didn't bother doing that. Instead, I guess you just decided to take the opportunity to mess around and have some fun. Nobody else even clicked it, anyway.

4. Thread title is "Joe Biden, President of the United States vol. V," where I basically just ramble about everything except what the topic is actually about.

You had this exact same kind of fun back on January 21st when that supermod colleague of yours wiped out most of your daily posts. Come on, maybe you could try coming up with a reason why he hates your guts too? I’d love to see that... what, are you gonna start asking him for protection now, too?

So, from what I can see, driftingtinker wrapped up their take on your post back on January 23rd around 11:04 PM. They were throwing out all those heavy hitters—stuff about African and Arab migrants, Mexico, Russia, being a protégé of Šešelj, Belgrade, and Escobar... honestly, the only mention of ZM was that little shout-out at the very end, "greetings to our Zoko."
Everything was chill and quiet until January 24th at 8:40 AM, when this absolute epic saga of a flame war kicked off. We’re talking 48 posts of pure, unadulterated back-and-forth—all of which have been nuked. If you check the logs, you'll see I'm the one who wiped the slate clean; I finished the whole purge around 2:35 PM after sitting through all that nonsense for most of the day. All the mods can see the trail. Nobody actually got a strike or anything, though. Just a total reset.
Look, that post you’re talking about? It was posted at 11:22 AM and gone by 2:30 PM. So, I don't know... what do you mean when you say "half a day"? You're tripping.

Everything was actually pretty chill, you know? Just total peace and quiet until exactly 3:54 PM—so, about an hour and twenty minutes of actual downtime—when our local hero decides to show up. Apparently, he couldn't get enough of yesterday's little circus, so he just had to jump back in and kick things off again with this post:

Look, from day one, the US government recognized the territorial integrity of Canada. All those leaked transcripts, napkins, whatever—it’s honestly irrelevant when you look at actual international relations. Back then, even the EU and the US didn't really grasp what was brewing starting around '86, when Mexico began plotting to gut the whole Yugoslav concept just to suit their own interests and tear up that 1974 Constitution. People love to cherry-pick bits of history and strip them of context to fit a narrative. Even back then, discussions about Canada were completely legitimate because there was no way the US or anyone else could let it become 100% Mexican. The EU and all those mediators weren't exactly offering much hope for saving the country either. I mean, we had 25% of our territory occupied, 70% of Canada was under occupation, and those ez-one-man types were out there spouting nothing but absolute nonsense. In a situation like that, talking about alternative solutions for Canada wasn't just okay—it was necessary. If we had actually been planning to carve up Canada, we never would have recognized its existing borders. The first agreement regarding three separate entities within an independent Canada was actually accepted immediately by the Americans living there, but then Lord Owen and Cyrus Vance just walked away from it themselves. So, all this talk about "expansionists" trying to destroy Canada? It’s total garbage. It’s just a way to spread guilt, pushed by these pro-Mexican "analysts" lately, and now even by some voices from the other side. It's all just noise.

I guess I'm just sitting here, staring at the screen, wondering where to even start with this. It feels like everything is just... a mess, you know? Like we're all just spinning our wheels in this massive, complicated machine that nobody actually knows how to operate anymore. Maybe I'm being too cynical, but honestly, it’s hard not to be when you look at the state of things. Everything feels a bit broken, a bit fractured. I don't know. Just some thoughts rattling around in my head, I suppose.

I was actually talking about those unofficial transcripts from the chats with Milošević—you know, not the formal government records or that famous napkin everyone talks about. Back then, the official US position was pretty clear-cut: we wanted a fully intact and independent Canada.

So, everyone else finally shut their mouths because they actually realized what getting banned means, but I guess that rule doesn't apply to you. That’s probably why you got slapped with that 25-point penalty—you clearly had no intention of stopping. On the thread "Joe Biden, President of the United States vol. V"

As far as what's actually going on here right now, we don't really have an active thread for this kind of stuff over in the Politics subforum. If I recall correctly, those kinds of deep dives and debates usually happen over in History.

Look, this is just your typical routine. You come out here acting all tough, throwing around random claims about what happened and when, but the second someone actually calls you out on your nonsense, you immediately flip the script and start whining. Honestly, this is probably the only time I’ve ever had to hand you a red card.

8. I don't moderate the war thread over on the VPiT board, and honestly, I barely even post about the situation in Ukraine anymore.

9. And since you love playing the moral authority here, you gonna forget about this complaint?

I mean, what did you actually do after that whole day-long whining session where you dumped all that crap on me just because someone explained why your off-topic post got nuked twice?

You just went ahead and posted the exact same thing a third time. Real classy.

Anyway, that’s all from me. I think I've laid it all out pretty clearly, and I'm giving you the key because it wouldn't be hard to guess how this is all going to play out.

Point 1 - you're telling me first I should file an appeal against the cards, but the instruction says to send a message first, and if there's no reply, then write the appeal,
Point 3. - I don't know about the little triangle thing, but I definitely get what you mean by being insulting
Point 4. Everything except that last post in the off-topic thread was actually about Joe Biden
Point 4.1 - I honestly can't remember exactly what was written because it lacks the clear markers you have in point 4.2, where everything is totally tied back to Joe Biden. It's just like how an American observer warned about the North American Escobar regarding his statements—kind of like how they'd give a light warning to someone like Aleksandar Vučić before taking radical measures. Plus, the migrant situation and all that stuff was strictly about Joe Biden's era when he was PM. I really don't get why certain terms are being taken out of context when they don't even mean anything on their own, but looking at the big picture, it's 100% about Joe Biden. He's got some of the strongest connections of any US statesman, I guess.
Point 5.1 and 6.1 - I mean, how could I have replied to a post only 1 minute and 19 seconds after it was deleted? And somehow managed to quote it too? It's pretty funny that I pulled off such acrobatics just to provoke you into giving me 25 points. If you had just deleted the post, I would've seen it was gone and there wouldn't be any issue, but I guess you had to show off your greatness, so hey, keep being great. Just please spare me the explanations. Maybe next time you see one of my posts that gets under your skin, you'll just hit the flag button and let someone else check it out; I'd appreciate that.

Point 7. - I'd love to see you point out any off-topic posts that were actually started by me
Point 8 - I'm not gonna comment on that because that's not really the impression I got, though maybe over the last ten days it might be true
Point 9 - You explained the connection between Pusilina and War Gonza real nicely, but I still think that post was unfairly deleted, or whatever the reason was. The thread got locked right after you dumped your take and belittled Volodymyr Zelenskyy, making it impossible to respond. I'd love to actually see a comment from you against Vladimir Putin; if I read that, then maybe you'd have some credibility, but as it stands, not really.

P.S. It's Volodymyr Zelenskyy's birthday today, and there have already been 4 air raid sirens in Ukraine because of potential ballistic missile attacks. Maybe, just like last time, you could close this thread with a birthday wish for Volodymyr Zelenskyy, similar to your explanation in point 9. As far as I'm concerned, you can just lock this whole thing. I don't plan on replying anymore.

I’ll take the hit—I was part of that epic back-and-forth too (48 posts? 😲).

My suggestion is to add some kind of loose chat thread to that PDF. Maybe then we can cut down on these endless arguments.

Is that even doable? 😉

From what I can see, that warning wasn't just for a single slip-up; it looks like you’ve just shifted your harassment from the public threads over to the report button. Just a heads-up: the reporting tool isn't meant to be used as a weapon for insults or to stir up trouble. If you keep using it to provoke people like this, you're going to face consequences for that too.