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Participants Paul Rogers94darkcyclist92Jack Cook7Michelle Bennett5shadowlynx102urbanheron4ironwolf2
darkcyclist92 darkcyclist92 Active Member
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#21 ·
Paul Rogers94 said:I lost that sticker somewhere, so I tucked it away, but now I have absolutely no clue where it ended up.

I just picked up a new laptop, and frankly, I’m at a total loss on how to get this thing connected to the network without having the password handy.

Your best bet is to simply call the support line for your ISP. They can handle all the configuration on their end while you stay on the line with them.
Michelle Bennett5 Michelle Bennett5 Active Member
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joined Dec 2007
#22 ·
Paul Rogers94 said:A QR code pops up on my screen, and anyone could just scan it with their phone if they wanted to jump on my network.

Look, a QR code is basically just a text format. You grab another phone, run a QR reader, scan the thing, and it shows you the raw content—just read the text, don't actually trigger any of those automated actions it tries to suggest. If you do that, the Wi-Fi password should be right there in the text string.
Jack Cook7 Jack Cook7 Regular
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#23 ·
The whole point of a password is that it’s encrypted.

There’s this massive 75-hour "Security" course over on Khan Academy that basically teaches you everything there is to know.
Michelle Bennett5 Michelle Bennett5 Active Member
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#24 ·
Jack Cook7 said:The whole point of a password is that it's encrypted.

There’s this 75-hour "Security" course over at Khan Academy that basically teaches you everything there is to know about this stuff.

The password printed on the router sticker isn't encrypted in any way, shape, or form.
Jack Cook7 Jack Cook7 Regular
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#25 ·
John Cook72 said:the password on the router sticker isn't encrypted at all

Not exactly.
Michelle Bennett5 Michelle Bennett5 Active Member
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#26 ·
It’ll probably make more sense once we actually see what's inside that QR code.
shadowlynx102 shadowlynx102 Active Member
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#27 ·
Honestly, the easiest way to handle this is to have a friend swing by with a laptop so they can plug directly into your router with an Ethernet cable.
Once they're connected, just type the router's IP address into a web browser along with the admin credentials. Once you've logged into the router's interface, you'll be able to see the current Wi-Fi password and change it if you want to, though it isn't strictly necessary.

Which internet provider are you using, and what kind of router do you have on hand?
Paul Rogers94 Paul Rogers94 Active MemberOP
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#28 ·
shadowlynx102 said:The easiest way is to have a friend drop by with a laptop—someone who can actually plug directly into the router via Ethernet.
Once they're connected, just type the router's IP address into the browser along with the admin credentials. Once you've logged in, you can see the Wi-Fi password or change it... if you even want to.

Which ISP are you using, and what kind of router is it?

I'm on Xfinity, using a Technicolor router. Back when I still had the key, any device with Wi-Fi could connect—my phone worked fine—but my desktop doesn't have a Wi-Fi card.

I tried your suggestion by typing it into the browser, but I couldn't get into any admin interface at all—just "This site can’t be reached."

So, right now, I've got three phones still connected from before, but the laptop is totally useless since I lost the password...
Paul Rogers94 Paul Rogers94 Active MemberOP
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#29 ·
darkcyclist92 said:Just call the support line for your ISP. They can fix everything from their end while you're stuck on the phone with them.

That’s not happening—I hate those corporate, robotic rats even more than I love my laptop. What kind of headspace do you have to be in to spend eight hours a day wrestling with idiots like myself?
urbanheron4 urbanheron4 Active Member
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#30 ·
Paul Rogers94 said:So, I've currently got three different phones hooked up to my router from before.

Just check the phone itself to see the password for the network it's connected to.

https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-...evice-0160995/
Paul Rogers94 Paul Rogers94 Active MemberOP
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#31 ·
urbanheron4 said:Just try checking the password for the network your phone is currently connected to.

https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-...evice-0160995/

Those passwords are useless—I had one taped to my router, along with the hardware itself, and when the whole thing fell off, I scribbled it down in a few spots and kept the "original" in one specific notebook. Then, naturally, I upgraded my PC, and amidst the endless mountain of paperwork and books I’m constantly trying (and failing) to organize, there is zero chance I'll ever find that password again. Besides, the one I lost was at least twice as long as whatever you get using the method shown here—which, by the way, doesn't even work.

I've spent the last few days wading through endless tutorials and I've likely exhausted every possible option... and my own patience.
ironwolf2 ironwolf2 Newcomer
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#32 ·
Paul Rogers94 said:I'm running a basic internet setup with a Technicolor router, and back when I actually had the password, any device with Wi-Fi could just hop on—like my phone, for instance—but my desktop is stuck because it doesn't have a built-in Wi-Fi card.

I actually tried following your suggestion by typing that address into my browser, but I hit a total dead end; it just kept spitting out "This site can’t be reached" instead of letting me into the admin dashboard.

So, here's the mess: I've got three different phones still connected to the router from before, but my laptop is basically a paperweight right now because I lost the password and can't get it online.

Just log into the router using one of your phones and you should be able to see or reset the Wi-Fi password from there.
Paul Rogers94 Paul Rogers94 Active MemberOP
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#33 ·
Jack Cook7 said:The whole point of a password is encryption...

I mean, there's a 75-hour "Security" course over at Khan Academy that covers all of this.

I don't need some Cisco academy certification just to use Google.
urbanheron4 urbanheron4 Active Member
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#34 ·
No, I meant check directly on the phone itself. Since it’s connected to the router via Wi-Fi, you had to enter the password when you first linked up. It's all stored right there in the settings. I've attached a link with instructions for Android, assuming that's what you're running. It might vary slightly depending on which version of Android you have. Can you follow instructions written in English?

For Android 10 and above

Open the Wi-Fi or Internet submenu in Settings.
Tap the current network or select "Saved networks" and choose one.
Tap "Share" below the network's name.
Authenticate yourself if you have device security set up.
See the plain text password under the QR code.
Paul Rogers94 Paul Rogers94 Active MemberOP
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#35 ·
urbanheron4 said:No, I meant check directly on the phone itself. If it’s connected to the router via Wi-Fi, you had to enter a password at some point—that info is stored right there in the device settings. I sent you a link with instructions for Android, assuming that's what you're running. It might vary slightly depending on which version of Android you have... can you follow these English instructions?

For Android 10 and above

Open the Wi-Fi or Internet submenu in Settings.
Tap the current network or select "Saved networks" and choose one.
Tap "Share" below the network's name.
Authenticate yourself if you have device security set up.
See the plain text password under the QR code.

All I'm getting is some MAC address... and an IP address... none of this is actually helping.
shadowlynx102 shadowlynx102 Active Member
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#36 ·
I'm pretty sure that won't actually let me see the password on my phone; it just generates a QR code instead.

Look, I already gave you the steps, so there's no need to overcomplicate things. If you can find anyone nearby with a laptop that has an Ethernet port, just plug directly into the router. Once you're logged in, you can either view the existing password or just set a new one. I really don't see what the issue is here.

Spent about 35 seconds digging this up on Google:
To access the web configuration, try these:
- default IP=192.168.0.1
- user=leave blank
- pass=admin

Edit: You actually can get this done using just your phone if you have to.
Paul Rogers94 Paul Rogers94 Active MemberOP
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#37 ·
shadowlynx102 said:I am 100% certain that I can't actually see the password on my phone this way—only a QR code.

I told you exactly what to do, so stop being difficult... surely you know someone with a laptop and an Ethernet port? Just plug directly into the router, log in, and view the password or just change it. I don't see where the issue lies.

A quick 35-second Google search:
To access the web config:
- default IP=192.168.0.1
- user=leave blank
- pass=admin

Edit: You can also get this done using your phone.

Yeah, I'm there, but what am I supposed to be looking for? Wireless MAC address? WPA Pre-shared Key?
Paul Rogers94 Paul Rogers94 Active MemberOP
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#38 ·
shadowlynx102 said:I am 100% certain that won't let me see the actual password on my phone—just a QR code.

I told you exactly what to do, yet here we are... surely you know someone with a laptop and an Ethernet port? Just plug directly into the router, log in, and either view the password or change it. I don't see the issue.

A quick 35-second Google search:
To access the web config:
- default IP=192.168.0.1
- user=leave blank
- pass=admin

Edit: actually, you can do this from your phone too.


🙏🙏🙏

Yeah, yeah... that's the WPA Pre-shared Key right there.
Thanks to you and everyone else.
It's clearly not easy explaining something this simple to a dummy like me...
Didn't need a laptop after all—did it from my desktop.
Took less than 35 seconds.

🙂🙂🙂🙂
shadowlynx102 shadowlynx102 Active Member
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#39 ·
No worries at all, glad I could help 👍

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